Hello all. I'll be going to Moscow within a week and really need advice from you!
First, how much money should I bring? I heard credit cards are not widely accepted there and it's difficult and expensive to withdraw cash from ATMs. I have already arranged an apartment and know how much money that would cost. So how much money in EURO or USD would you recommend me to prepare for each day's expenses like sightseeing,meals and transportation for two economical persons?
Also does any of you know what documents will be asked by the immigration officer at the Sheremetievo Airport? I know passport/visa and return ticket are must to have since I'm on a tourist visa. But any other things you can think of?
You will have to fill out imigration sheet (should be provided before you land from the airplane crew) and a customs declaration probably found at the airport in Moscow. You need to register within 72 hours of arrival. In Moscow the people you got your invitation from should be able to register you probably for a fee of $40 to $60. If you are registering you should have a phone number for them in Moscow and know at what time operators speaking your language are available there. I took a copy of my trip insurance but do not think it was ask for.
I usually figure $200 per day but have not spent that much yet. I would guess that if you go to museums, palaces, cathedrals you will spend 50 to 75 dollars entry and camera passes a day if they think you are Russian and probably twice that if they know you are a foreigner. Meals you can spend anywhere from $5 a plate to 100 or more depending on where and what you eat. Transportation also can be cheap or expensive depending on your tastes. The metro, mass transportation, and walking costs very little. Taxies everywhere can be $10 to $50 a ride depending probably more on where you hire them than distance you go. The airport is the worst. I would take a bus from there.
For me it seems like you spend a ton of money for everything because there are so many rubles to a dollar.
I found atm machines plentiful and not that expensive to use. I carried what I thought I would need in cash but also put a similar amount in my debit account in case I needed more.
Can I add something, you will get immigration forms on airplane, only problem is they are given late and are in russian, so if you know russian no problem and hard to ask someone if they speak english while in your seating area. The 72 hours is correct but does not include weekends. I came on a thurs and left on a monday and didn't need to register.
Most days I spent less than $100, unless it was special outing with girl. Many places I was told don't speak english loudly..... prices would have risen!!! I do have to recommend...boat trips down canals...the midnight cruise!! :))
I had posted a while back a copy of the customs form, the imigration form, and a train and bus ticket on http://www.4shared.com/dir/6767186/5027a712/ukraine.html. I looked and did not find a copy of my immigration form for Russia but the customs form was identical to the one from Ukraine. I do not remember if there was an immigration form. But you can print the ones from Ukraine and take them with you. Then if you get one that is not in English you will know what the questions are. If I can I try to take a couple with me so I can have them filled out when I get there the next time.
I have a copy of an atm transaction but without comparing it to my visa statement and knowing the exchange rate for back then it is difficult to tell anything from it.
If you are a typical man seeking a lady there your costs will kind of be set by the lady. Most times I was there not knowing my way around she planned most of the activities and places to go. You can refuse or make suggestions but not being familiar with the city it is hard to plan your activities therefore being in control of the costs.
Oz....I am pretty sure russian form is different...I remember I had lots of problems with russian form, had to ask for help... but ukrainian form is in english also, if I remember correctly. Probably would be good if someone knew for sure, so we can be correct.
Just found a form...it is in englih/russian(ukrainian)
I flew to Moscow in July 07 and cannot find my migration card but my customs declaration was only in Russian but was the same as the customs from Ukraine which I had a copy of with me. Here are two websites, the first tells of what to expect going from the airplane to the street, the second has a picture of the migration card translated to English and indicates you will only receive it in Russian as Beemer said. Whether changes have been made to the card since this website was updated I do not know.
http://www.sras.org/guides_customs_immigration and http://bravosolutions.com/immigration_form.php
When I flew I used Aeroflat. I do not know if there were English forms there and will not try to make you believe there are or are not. I know the Customs form I still have was Russian but cannot find the migration form. However if it was me I would make a copy of each the customs and the migration in my own language so that if I wound up with one in another language I would be familiar with the questions as well as the answers. Then it is not relevant whether I need to fill out a Russian or an English form.
I flew on Aeroflot and Aerosvit to Russia....all forms were in russian only...at least last year they were.
Oz...were you given forms near end of flight??
Yes it was in the last few minutes and I am trying to recall the flight but do not remember who i was sitting beside. I know enough russian that I would not have difficulty asking for help filling the form out and I do not remember sitting by anyone I did not get along with but I cannot recall the particulars. I do remember well the flight back to jfk from Moscow,because I sat with such a pleasant young lady who told me after 10 minutes that she had dreaded who she would have to be seated with on the 9 hour flight and was very much relieved and happy that it was me. After a very nice hug with kisses on the cheek leaving JFK perhaps is why I forgot the flight over. If customs did not take the form when I left the country I still have it somewhere.
Aeroflat and Aerosvit Have direct flights from the US to Moscow and Kiev respectively. Their International flights use Airbus or boeing planes and are regulated by International standards. Most other airlines drop you in Europe and then use a short flight to your destination. Delta also has direct flight JFK to Kieve and I tried them last time. That was a disaster. Their flight from Atlanta was an hour late and the flight to Kiev was early. I got to the gate tickets in hand at 4:16 for a 4:20 flight and it was already locked and they would not let me on. Then they gave me the privilege of flying through Paris. That airport really sucks and air France took control of my luggage. It arrived 4 days after I did. So you bet if I can fly aerosvit to Ukraine or aeroflat to Russia I am going to take it. Not to mention I do not know French or German and would rather be either in an English speaking or Russian speaking country.
Oz...quite the flight you had...flight from hell.
From LA, I have plenty of choices. My fav is LA-Frankfurt (Lufthansa)with short flight into Moldova or Ukraine...only 1 stop...less chance of luggage getting lost. LA-Kiev through Paris was not bad, quick flight and getting through airport(tram) was a snap even though I had 50 minutes connecting time.
I am not a fan of connecting on east coast cities, adds another 3-4 hours flight time.
Shortest flight was LA-Moscow, in 10 1/2 hours....on Boeing 767's....
"aeroflot ...either brave or on a budget"????? Which one are you Danny????? How do you get around in Russia? Boat??? Not many choices.
Most inbound flights to Russia will provide immigration forms only in Russian, however if you push the flight staff a little, they will usually have a "Master Copy" you can borrow with the identical layout in English which you can use as a guide template to place the relevant information in the correct places. The Ukrainian forms are quite different.
Moscow is very Westernised and has modern facilities and the richest live their, credit cards particularly Visa will be widely accepted at large hotels and restaurants, many banks have universal agreements with most countries to use local ATMs such as "cirrus" etc. so larger banks will take your card via the ATM to withdraw cash.
Don't use American Express credit cards...in many places, even here in Australia they are not widely accepted because of high transaction fees for the merchants that accept them.
Visa credit cards have the highest world wide acceptance and participating merchants.
Travellers cheques are a problem in the FSU, will not be accepted in most places and only a few large banks will cash them and there will be a wait of several days for them to clear..not advised to use and if you use them,only in USD denominations
Cash should be carried in USD or Euro and exchanged at banks and don't use street side vendors..you could get counterfeit currency.Bills should be five, ten or twenty denoms and don't use 50s as they are too big a note to change and bills should be in good condition with no tears or too crumpled as they fuss and won't accept them.
A friend of mine went there in 2006 and told me this..I did not read this on the internet!
I would not agree with the small denominations. If I took 3000 dollars cash in fives, tens, and twenties that would be 150 to 600 bills. I would look like a chipmunk. I always take 100s and the only problem I have ever had is if they have a little tear in them some money exchanges will not accept them. Most of the time I exchange money it is 2 or 3 hundred dollars at a time so I see no reason for excess small bills.
I love the way that he generalizes that one should use a bank in FSU, not another vendor, as if one country in FSU is the same as every other, I presume his friend travelled to all the countries to make such a seemingly knowledgable statement.
But ..... in Uzbekistan the best deals are done on the black market and often in a back alley, DO NOT use a bank in Uzbekistan, and exchanging in back alleys is commonplace. But don't ever consider doing anything like that in, for example, Ukraine, you'd probably be lucky to escape with your life.
That's an example of how different it can be between one FSU country and another, only an idiot would generalize the FSU and one country and one way of doing things.
I said about Moscow only not rest of FSU..yes you get better exchange rates from back alley in any country ( including Fiji...I exchanged Aussie dollars for Fiji Dollars at a clothing shop in a quiet street as the Indian (Gudjrati) owner had kids studying at Uni in Australia and really prized Aussie bucks and gave me about 10 cents more on the dollar than the official "bank" exchange rate, Martin...I would be tempted to exchange in a back alley too, depends who it was, my vibes about it and whether the exchanged currency looked real and not counterfeit.).
I a apologise for calling you a "pet shop boy" and a fooker..bit over the top and not being constructive here and my info came from a third party..different people will have different experiences overseas, for instance some will get hassled by the local police to show there passport ID, it happenned to me in Fiji when I visited after the coup in 1989, had to produce my ID and entry visa to the country and some will not even be stopped by the local cops.
To be stopped by local police in a foreign country and asked to produce ID can be very intimidating especially when they take a long take to look at the your ID documents and mutter to themselves in there own foreign lingo before handing it back and letting you go on your way..its to make you sweat and feel uncomfortable and I think some cops like unnerving foreigners in there lands!
aussieman,
Check if it is counterfeit? In Uzbekistan for USD100 one got a shopping bag of local currency but it would take a wad or so of notes for a simple bottle of soft drink? Who would want to counterfeit that?