But don't tell her, otherwise I'll classify as a paeto... pedo... paedi... someone who likes too young chicks.
Did I tell you I'm familiar with chicken rearing farms? A science in itself, from 0 to Full Grown in 6 weeks ...... ;-)
No offense at all Julia, but someone female who posts normal clever sensible posts here tends to stand out ;-)
Ptichka was a STAR!!!!!
I ever she reads here - 'chmok' to you!
And Julia, you're welcome here, never mind the numerous morons frequenting here. Take them for granted is my advice (tongue in cheek ;), and also your prerogative entirely who you classify as such ....
I also totally agree with your Julia's statements. Although I don't match every criteria, but I know one person thinks I have all the good quality that you have listed and that is enough for me.
If you believe that a lady will allow herself to be bought for a mere $300 appliance then you obviously haven't met a lady. However, you already know a lady cannot be bought for a mere $300 appliance and that's why you're making attempt to buy your woman with a house.
We ALL bring to the table different strengths and weaknesses when looking for a mate. Some of us are extraordinarily good looking (certainly not you). Some of us are extremely intelligent or personable (not you again). Some of us have other wonderful personality traits (Nyet for you one more time). Some of us come from the "right family background" (probably again nadda) or the right social circle. Perhaps we live in the right place, have tangible belongings, or citizenship in a desirable country.
We bring a basket of good things and bad things. Not just one thing.
Birds do it differently. Presumably the Blue Footed Booby picks a mate based on the tone of the color of his/her feet (I don't know for sure). Some birds have complicated mating dances. We pretty much forgo the feet and the dances and make our decision based on so many other things.
A refrigerator or freezer doesn't cost much money to most of us. But for a woman living in the FSU it can be completely out of reach. Should we then be STINGY and deny something that means little to us and a lot to them when we have the capability of providing it?
I have to believe that guys like you are simply jealous of the quality of women that guys like me and others are able to get. So you jealously sit back and try to think of an excuse for why you have had a lifetime of failure and the rest of us haven't. And you jealously decide "Oh HE only got her by BUYING her a refrigerator!!!".
Of course its ridiculous. No woman with a brain will be with a man simply for a refrigerator - but it gives limited guys like you something to cry and complain about.
Get over it danny.
Love blooms at different time. If a guy and a girl are in love after 3 months or 6 months - then I am happy for them. And IF they are in love then he and she should do all that they can for the other. A refrigerator is a TOKEN thing compared to a relationship and if a guy can give one to his love - or to his loves mother - then it is great - and its his business and hers but certainly not YOURS!
Oh,
I neglected to admit to something, for my birthday that year I had asked for a BBQ in the back garden, the family has some sort of geriatric burning thingy however I went and bought a new barbie, it cost all of some $30, I made sure my then girlfriend (now wife) agreed to have 10 babies with me before I spent such a vast amount on the family, no point in buying something unless one is to get sex in return according to my dyslexic friend, and that cheap barbie remains one of brother in law's prized possessions, every time it is used it gets cleaned afterwards and put away.
Danny. Before you wrote about your woman who earns 15 000 hrn per month. As I know a normal fridge here costs 3 000 - 5 000 hrn. So what's the problem for your woman to buy her mom a fridge?
If you have several women then this is what I think. If I was her I would NEVER ask for any gift neither for me nor for my family because
1. I am too proud to ASK even if I need,
2. I don't think my man MUST give me something,
3. even if he wants to give something for my mom I would let him decide himself what gift he is capable to give.
As you see it's totally subjective. Everything depends on your woman. I told you my opinion, but I am sure here are a lot of girls who think differently (in spite of whether you are foreigner or not).
BUT if you respect yourself as a MAN you should give her something since you are her guest to pay for her and her family's hospitality. It's somethng like a tradition. Even when my sister comes home (where me and our parents live) she always bring some gifts. You know even if they are small, it doesn't matter
Jet, I can agree with you.
But one more thing. When you know so well that a fridge is a TOKEN thing for you and for HER it is "out of reach" ... don't show that you know it ... coz otherwise it will look abasely
I ALSO bought a refrigerator for my exfiance's mother.
We had been together for THREE YEARS at the time - and her tiny Soviet style refrigerator had been acting up for some time. A repair man said it wasn't worth fixing - but they had absolutely nothing else and were in dire need.
I OFFERED to buy a new one (she never asked me for it) and when we went to the appliance store she looked for the cheapest model - so as no to request too much. It was not frostfree - which meant that she would have to take everything out periodically and defrost it.
I refused to buy her that one and instead spent considerably more on a DEPENDABLE namebrand frost free unit. Her mother was very happy and I was proud that I was in a position where I could do it.
Never regreted it for a moment (and that was my EXfiance.)
The way my one came about, Mama's appliance had packed up some days before, my wife financially supports her widowed mother, and I had observed that it was playing on wife's mind, it was worrying her regarding how she was going to pay to repair or replace it, although she never mentioned her concerns to me.
Towards the end of that week I just turned round to her and said 'come on, we're going shopping for a fridge/freezer' and she just looked at me with astoundment ..... and a smile.
It was something that I had thought about for a few days, I genuinely wanted to do it, and seeing the reaction from her mother it was worth every dollar.
Thank you for your agreement Julia, it wasn't asked of me, I offered it and made everyone so happy including myself.
And if dyslexic danny's tip off the week doesn't work then just realise that you are a total loser and try buying a lady a house.
P.S. And there will be an airline excess baggage cost for transporting a fridge from Australia to Ukraine, what is it about Australians, one wants to take a bottle of coke with him and the other pillock wants to take a fridge, I normally take chocolates.