Andrew...maybe you can understand this...love is blind...at moment you are blind, all you see is your girl and don't look at real situation. All your energy is being spent to 'make it work', irregardless as to whether it will work out or not. You started this thread, maybe deep down you really know what you should do. There is a thing called 'tough love', I use it for my kids, my decisions are made for the best whether my kids are hurt or not. I love them but always make best decision.
By the way...is Julia_00, person who told you to come here???? It's uncanny you both showed up at same time!!! Just a thought!!! :))
Did this have anything to do with lack of money in the relationship, ie you don't earn enough for her and she does not want to be poor.
This is how Ukrainian women put it and one wrote to me about her attitude about love and relationships "There is love, but love is not enough if you are poor and thats very bad for me" SO money matters big time to them and as "poor" is a relative concept to them and they don't understand that most western guys have bank loans for credit cards, mortgages and personal loans that have to be paid back weekly and although they might be on a relatively good income, once the repayments and life expenses come out there is little left for luxuries and then a Ukrainian woman thinks that is poor because they have illusion of western life as being like in Hollywood movies where men have double storey mansions and money coming out of their arses when in reality it all has to be paid for..Ukrainian women don't understand that concept as there society is all cash based..you buy it, you own it and you have no loans over it to repay..I mean even the parents give them the city apartment while they go retire at the dacha or holiday house..most Ukrainians have "dachas" in the country and in the West nowdays its rare for parents to hand over or giveaway their home to their grown children..they live in different universes than us and they don't understand that life is hard in the west, you have to budget and the streets are definitely not paved in gold!
Andrew. You know as well as I do that you will take all this good advice and ignore it. Wisdom cannot be taught, it has to be learned through hard experience.
I fell madly in love many years ago. The love of my life. I was physically sick away from her. Couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. The pain of longing that only being together could assuage. The only way to be together was to marry. So we did. After one week I knew I was in big trouble. Perfectionist, driven, friends had to make appointments to visit because she didn't do 'drop-ins'. Her diet changed from salads to chocolate, her exercise classes stopped. I could go on.
Sure. The wonderful qualities that made me love her were there but they got crushed under the weight of the other stuff that I had not seen in my state of delirious delusion.
Those little things that concern you now? They will become big things.
Stats show that romantic love lasts between 6 and 30 months. Why not wait 30 months before tying the knot? Instant gratification is simply Russian Roulette.
nooga, my retarded gay friend, why you always try to drag me into your gay world? I have every reason to believe you are gay. First, you stated that Julia and I are the same person, but nevertheless you still asked Julia to marry you. If you think that Julia is a man and you still want me to marry you, how do you call a man who likes to marry another man? Second, sure it wouldn't be your style and you would never question what is love or how important is love, how many gay people do you know? How big is the chance that you will meet one you love and he loves you back? The chance that it will happen is almost non-existant because there are too few gay people around that you can choose from. Besides if you know that there are some straight people who can never find their true love and they have millions more choices than gay people then I am sure that love is surely not important for you. The most important thing you care about is sex and then you entered the wrong topic and you should open a new topic asking other gay people to talk to you but stay away from this one.
Aussieman, what you say is true but this situtation happens in every country, I don't think that because she is Russian or Ukrainian that they are all like this. I don't see western girls are any much better. I believe that their character and how the girls are raised have more influence on what they will become. My partner has a strong character and she often does not choose the easy way, she is a fighter and I am confident in her. Of course, it is normal when at a certain point you are facing the problem to leave your life behind and start a new one elsewhere, everybody would like to get a better and more comfortable life. How would you do if you were her? Would you give up everything and marry a poor girl and move to live in Ukraine? Knowing that you will need to struggle to maintain your family? How deep and how important is love at that time?
hey Mini brain with your Mini Cooper. I thought you were going to meet your 12-14 ladies, did your mini car broke down? For someone who goes to meet and date 12 or more women in a short time and also need to lie and fool every one of them in the hope to find one who loves him, you are not in a position to give me any advice and to say anything about love. Is talking about love so feminin? No wonder you definately have no idea what it means. If Julia and I are one person, then probably Oz, Aussieman, Jet, Martin, Kirkland, beemer, Dunromin, Bill, erusbrides, Ted, QuietCharm and many others who use their brain when they say things, are the same person. And that makes you and nouga and probably Danny being the same person, no brains, no respect for other people, most likely gay pimps who exploit women. Maybe you should open a topic with nouga about Brokeback Mountain and invite Danny to your topic, I know you tree have alot in common and you will have alot to talk about. I have nothing against gay people but don't mess with me and I will not bother you. One more thing about feminism. How many straight guys have you ever seen driving in a Mini Cooper? Most people who drive a Mini Cooper are YOUNG people, WOMEN or GAY, a real man with family values, would buy himself a more decent car. So, what category are you in?
Like I said; every new post turns into a pissing contest.
Guys come on here looking for advice and the ones who are in a position to give some really good tips and have valuable knowledge end up throwing insults at one another.
Some guys have given a little bit of insight into how they live and what they do with their life only to have it ridiculed by someone trying to come across as clever and so cool.
People in glass houses...nobody is perfet...etc.
All ours lives we see and deal with people who are sometimes physically or mentally challenged. They are us.
Geez.
As you continue to frequent and repulse this forum with your simplistic outlook on life and love I must say that you epitomize the words of a famous person...
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
-Groucho Marx
Mini Cooper, finally you said some interesting and smart words
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot." OOps, I have mistaken, those words you did not say, it was Groucho Marx.
Tell me, who is the bigger fool when he wants to date 12 or more girls in a few days and tries to find his love by lying to them one after another. You really think those girls you will meet are so stupid and not notice what you are up to? Maybe you can get away with it when you date retarded girls but still, you will not get away with it, because even a retarded girl would be smarter than you.
Dunromin,
I have read your post. Am very surprised by the way you think. I have only one question. Reasoning from the things you said I am sure you don't believe in international relationships. So what are you doing here?
Kirkland,
you are right. The first person you have to love is yourself. We can never become happy if we are not satisfied by ourselves. If we don't love ourselves, our own lives, then what are we to love? Who can fall in love with you if YOU hate yourself?
We always must start from ourselves, from that what is inside of us.
Danny, maybe you are right, I am desperately in love. It is the first time in my life I feel so good and I would never want to loose it. Is it so bad to be desperate and hope? When have I ever said, I get a Russian mail order bride catalogue and choose a photo to fall in love with myself? What do you mean with that? Your language skills is really absurd and unlogical. If I wanted to fall in love with myself, shouldn't I better get my own photo, why I need a russian bride catalogue? Besides, I never believe in falling in love just for the look of a woman. I also don't believe in going to date 10-20 or more girls for a few hours and then pick out one and hope to fall in love with each other. I don't think you can know a person in a few hours, some people don't know each other even they live together for years. And I'm sorry I'm not so stupid to invest $4200 for your scam but it seems that I am not the only one who thinks that way. So please, if you want to fool other people like Mr Mini Cooper, please ask him to join your topic but stay away from this one. But I believe Mini Cooper isn't so dumb and he is smarter than you because he would not give you $4200. Go open yourself a new topic or write a book, maybe it would be more succesful "Book for Dummies : Know-how tips for being dumb - dumber - dumberer" by expert Danny with personal tips and experiences. By the way, don't forget to mention the book will cost $4200, you will need to be able to live from it when you can't be a pimp anymore, right?
Danny, danny, still convinced you know it all. First you act as if you know me so well with your Russian mail order bride catalogue, now you even know how my partner thinks when you don't know her at all. Well I have to congratulate you with your mails about your tour. Seems you have found alot of dumb-dumber-dumberer guys who wants to pay for your rip off. Not to mention that they are definately much more desperate than I will ever be if they want to pay you $4200 and go with your tour. By the way the ideas that the people gave you, you forgot to mention "the negative ideas" as I can read in the forum when all people critize and give you ideas about your insane price of $4200. Since you received so many fan mails, why you still have so much time and still bother to enter this topic. This topic is not about scamming people. I appreciate your concern and what you said, it can happen because I know it has happened to some guys in this forum but nevertheless, every situation is different and I am very confident in her maybe many of you think I am so stupid, getting so many advices but still don't listen, fact is I listen but I don't agree with everything and I know the only persons who really can know us and how our relationship is like, is only ourselves.
Again danny gets into "how long have you been with this "womoan" (whatever that is) in person".
danny has one tiny little thing going for him and he is parading that around like all get-out, because it IS the only thing he's got.
danny doesn't have a traditional "job" so he can go annoy... I mean VISIT people in Russia for a long time. So that supposedly gives his secial credentials.
danny is one desperate guy. Desperate for ANYTHING...ANY LITTLE THING that makes him look good.