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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Is this really what happens...? Author Post Bigted Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2008 3:13:37 PM   Have read and participated on umpteen forums before, but im not sure this one is really helping anyone with aspirations of travelling to the FSU. It has apparently become a battle ground for personalities... which just proves if you were to put humans in a cage together, it wouldn't be long before they killed each other... come on lets get beck to the subject of the beautiful part of the world that is the FSU - i'm back ther in just over a week and absolutely cant wait... i will also learn more russian...! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2008 5:45:28 PM   Ted, You have only in the past week or so returned to this forum, had you been here a few weeks ago then you would have seen a real 'party'. Fortunately the moderators saw sense but only after it had degenerated in to an all out warfare, let's put it this way, and just for starters, there was a Ukrainian (self acclaimed) 'lady' calling men a 'c*nt' on this forum. Right now one problem continues, namely Gary Glitter and his Gangshow, between them they have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that they have nothing constructive to add to the input of this forum and are only here to disrupt it whilst insulting others. Now should 'we' say 'hey, no problem, spoil it for everybody else, insinuate that our girlfriends and/or wives are prostitutes etc. etc. etc.' or should we resist such personal attacks about people that Gary and his Gang have no knowledge of? I'm not prepared to accept my wife being referred to as a purchased product in exchange for a cheap kitchen appliance, I doubt you would accept the same or similar either thus, and until the moderators may see sense again, it seems we are stuck with it. Nothing personal of course, just an explanation of the current state of affairs :) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2008 6:20:28 PM   Bigted: this forum has been a great souce of information at times in the past. I took my firs trip to Ukraine in 2003 and met a wonderful woman who became my fiance. I got a lot of great advice before I went on this very forum. I've tried to give a little back since then and I hope I have succeeded. The forum works best when people feel free to share - the good stories as well as the bad. Hey - we all make mistakes AND spot-on decisions. We ALL have wrong impressions AND occasionally amazing insight. We all make wrong choices and sometimes amazingly good ones. Occassionally this forum becomes a sounding board for a dominat self-centered personality (won't name any names here - but I am refering to DANNY) who uses it for his own glory and to stroke his own ridiculous ego. When THAT happens frank discussions dry up - as nobody is willing to tell a story or give advice that might make them subject to constant insulting posts. The forum becomes useless for a while until the annoying personality eventually goes away. We are in that phase right now. And, unfortunately it may not let up anytime soon. Look back in the archives - there is some great information there. But right now its hard to share anything personal. Maybe when danny is cruising the Indian Ocean (or where ever) things will get better for a while. Or maybe (hopefully) he will sink his boat and be lost at sea nad things will be much better for a long time. One can only hope. colin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 8:08:16 AM   Monado was a Ukranian lady for sure I saw her marriage pictures! And Danny just enjoys inciting you guys with statements, but it isnt 100 percent Danny as always it takes two 2 tango. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 8:15:25 AM   Colin, Monada might be female but is certainly no 'lady'. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 8:50:31 AM   It appears to have started with Danny on the thread "Life IS Better in Ukraine". Danny made a couple general comments but the first personally derogatory one I see is Martin's Send: 10.04.2008 13:12:27 danny, If you are merely sourcing for yourself the ladies that declare their love in letters or after one meeting then you need to get out more! Danny told Martin to shut up he was living in Russia. Danny made some generalized comments about America and Americans. Next was Martin's Send: 12.04.2008 11:39:23 which told Danny to get his head out of his bottoms Danny made more comments about America Then Martin's Send: 12.04.2008 21:13:15 danny, You are one sick person to bring up such a horrific event in your anti American campaign, you are sick. Martin continued calling Danny names throughout that thread with the last on April 14. At that point nor on that entire thread I did not see where Danny retaliated against Martin with the exception of asking him to shut up on April 11. Martin maybe you could tell us where Danny made his first attack on you. Danny has views I do not agree with but just this once lets keep track of who started these personal attacks that lead to chaos of the site. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 10:06:46 AM   Land of oz, With all due respect I've got better things to do than trawl through past posts. Just for the record I am not American thus I personally do not take offence to his anti American posts however (above) you say I criticized him for bringing up a horrific event, that event was 9/11 that he made attempt to ridicule and I don't care what nationality they were but a lot of innocent people lost their lives that day and in horrific circumstances and to ridicule such an event is something that I do take offence to. I cannot recall dates of danny's attacks on me but you've read those attacks for yourself and as recent as today or yesterday aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 10:27:06 AM   Such wonderful language from a lady the "C" word...its rougher than some of the language I here around my neighbourhood and there are some "rough diamomds" around here which refers to ladies who are rough around the edges and behave and show it. I might use the "F" word and rename it as "fook" or abreviate it as f... but I think using the "C" word which is attrocious language takes things to a new low. There is a battle of personalities here but its a forum and everyone has a difference of opinion and some don't like there opinions usurped and they go on the defensive about it, including myself but its all in fun and this is a great melting pot of opinions here and sometimes you have to get the "verbal spoon" out and stir the pot a bit to keep it interesting although some members here think we Aussies are a pain in the arse and don't understand our twisted humour at times! ( maybe a Ukraine or FSU girl might not understand our humour either and it might pisss them off while we think its funny..a FSU girl will get an education in Australia and her hide will be thickened up and toughened to take the shit stirring or what we call hanging shit on one another but its in fun and no one takes it seriously..nobodys perfect. I am called the one thats never been to the FSU but know everything but I have communicated with many FSU ladies ( and scammers ) and chatted on the net and talked on the telephone to some and sent some gifts, here we go with the "darts" again, I just had to raise it before Martin or one of the others does and shit stirs me over it...she did like the darts! Some members here will never let "the darts" issue die even though that post is old as in October 2007 and times have changed..I had a different attitude then and I was "active" searching for a foreign girl back then ( and FSU girls were considered ) but closed down at the end of last year 2007 as I felt it was not for me and marriage was something I did not want to commit too yet..been out of it 7 years and thats not enough to be free of the ball and chain! I read this forum from interest and pass the my experience on to others whether its good or bad,and have opinion struggles with some of the other old apes in here! Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 11:19:51 AM   The subject being discussed is not important whether America, gifts, or whatever. It is not what you say but the way you say it. When you give your point and then at the end add a comment to belittle your opponent is the problem. Things like you talk shite, get your head out of your bottoms, idiot, your sick, what kind of a stupid idiot would say that. This is used when you want to win the argument but are not sure you have enough resources so you try to discredit the source (your opponent)and make sure he knows that you are in a class far above him. This transforms a healthy discussion into a personal attack. Sometimes the more a person gets attacked the less rational he becomes. Then he begins attacking to defend himself and it is a free for all. And of course if you were my children I would wash your mouths out with soap because the three of you involved are all saying things that should not be said. Now Monada's name was mentioned. I believe this is a different situation. Monada uses these names as pet names. I believe partly as protection, partly to get a reaction but not as means for a knock down drag out argument. Even this is not enough protection for her as you see members propositioning her anyway. But I see that if somebody breaks through her barrier and talks with respect she talks sensibly to them. So my opinion is that what you see now is not the problem. The root of the problem happened 3 months ago. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 11:36:18 AM   oz, Exactly what sort of pet does one call 'c*nt'? I rarely address danny unless he says something totally ridiculous or insulting towards me and my family. He posts regarding his Russian tours and it's a danger that someone might actually take him seriously that they should pay $4,200 for 10 nights accommodation, an interpreter and an airport pick up & drop off. People expose scammers on this forum quite regularly and I/we are merely exposing danny as another scammer shlong Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 12:38:11 PM   hi GUYS Go back and look how i was treated when i made a silly mistake . colin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 1:09:51 PM   danny wasnt serious i dont think about that another attempt to get your back up is all, we all know hes heading back to Oz with his woman! Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 1:17:29 PM   Eto domoshney zhuvortney dleh yevor zhena. Your wife can tell you what that means Martin. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 1:17:41 PM   Land...if you were around last year, you would have known the mouth from poltava was here for one reason and one reason only..to stir up shit with no sense accountability. She even admitted that in her posts. I can't see anyone defending that, best to just ignore it until it passes, like a kidney stone, it did 2 times now and I am sure it will come back. Now we have another that can't get his stories straight, first he was scammed, admitted it then said he was not and again now admits it was scam but he got everything back.... sans his ego. I have learned if someone tells different stories, then he is liar, can't remember which story he told to who. We were told how he was illegally in russia, past his visa date, which was a story to make himself look tough and then tell us the police station is close to his house. A friend in Moscow told me if visa expired he would have been caught long time ago. Everyone I know have told me stories of constantly being asked to see papers, yet danny expects us to believe he never gets asked, yet, he said he has not seen a westerner at all in Chely, you think he never speaks while there. "But I see that if somebody breaks through her barrier and talks with respect she talks sensibly to them." Don't make me laugh Oz....you have no idea how many times I was called stupid!!!!If you agree with her or tell her she is all wise then she will talk to you...talk down to you. I am not a name caller, save for couple short instances, yet I would never defend someone who does this...just other day I was called idiot again, apparently he nothing better to say and wanted me to be impressed with his selection of 3 syllable words and 4th grade education. Since communication here is through writing, maybe it be best if someone learn how to communicate better, there is dictionary, spell checker, and even 1 girl in salon to help with writing if they truely want to further themselves. I just hope he doesn't leave, very entertaining, easily puts himself in position to be ridiculed...in fact my class of 'kids with attitude problems(detention)' has shown interest in subject of 'Danny'. they like to see his posts....we correct his grammer, try to figure what he is trying to say and even some kids put on their forehead an "L" for looser(loser). They went as far as wanted to have a membership alla ' the_salon' but I am sure they will say some terrible things...you know saying things without thinking..........I don't think it is very good idea. But at least we are doing something constructive in class and they are learning what not to do. I learned many moons ago, you always feel better about yourself when you see someone in worse shape. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 2:16:04 PM   I congratulate beemer for using initiative of putting danny's dyslexia to positive use, 'look kids, if you don't attend school to learn then you will end up like danny'. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2008 4:55:00 PM   And the story for paying to build a house on her land hasn't changed either we guess? nooga Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2008 12:13:46 AM   guys, I would like to admit something. I am not SHLONG, nor ever was. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2008 3:37:12 AM   3 or 4 months ago little posting was occuring now its 95% slanging matches. The conversation raely stays on topic more than 5 posts and then degenerates to drivel. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2008 9:25:16 AM   Land of Oz: As I've said before, you are not our moderator. You are also not our conscience. And your accounting of the record from the past is a bit oversimplistic and bias. danny - My ex is still a friend of mine. A very good friend. The closest thing YOU have to an ex is a woman who scammed you and that you had to chase down to get your money back. Seems that you are full of advice on HOW TO GET SCAMMED. Whereas I have never been scammed in my life. And none of my ladies have EVER come from catalogs. I met them both IN PERSON without a single letter to them. You are full of sh*t danny. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2008 9:43:38 AM   You are right about that Jet because if I was the moderator most of this stuff would not even be here. Any post that called another member stupid or called them a name would be in the trash can. But you do have one strong point. The girls in the Salon can watch this and realize how lucky they are to have a few Russian men left. 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