Just spent an amazing 5 days in dnep with my lady and as usual, her being a agency owner, the conversation turned to the ins and outs of the FSU dating game. She knows I am relating some of what she tells me on here and she with this in mind she said
"tell those men on the forum if they want a genuine girl then they should not write only to the most beautiful girls"
"are they too stupid to realise that these girls are models, do they not see the obvious disparity when these girls pose in bikinis and yet write about how they 'just want to be loved, and have a family'"
Forget the sites, just get yourself over there, they all want to be your friend, hear you speak, help you in anyway they can, i am well and truly humbled every time im there - that friends wives curtsey for me and i explain, there is no need, i am only human, just the same as them. 5 days to go... come on
Most Dating Agencies are like Nudy bars at the US or elsewhere
When you come in you already know you will ripped off per se.
My experience with Russian women has been few but the roads I ve taken are not the ones with the agencies. There are beautiful girls in Russia/east europe. yes but the reality now is they also do a trade in. just like everywhere. how much money you earn, how handsome you are, can have a visa to reach a better prospect etc. Some dont want to live Russia. Russia is not that bad to them as the news show. At least lately.
I have met women from east europe here in the US and most of them they got married and after they just got the residence they got divorced. (I just wonder wouldn't you feel used ?)
This myth of Genuine and pure love is not true. Women are basically the same everywhere. most think the same. Rip off the males the more they can. sorry to break your bubble guys.
Just some last comment. In the experience I have had with Russian women. 80% of the women I have met in Russia (not by websites) but personally. they have never had asked me a dime. I met my first russian girl while I was working in China. It was a good learning experience. there I started to understand how russian women really think. they value more the family and having kids is a goal. if they are not from big cities they plan to stay at home and bear kids. but nowadays they try to imitate the western profiles in big cities. so this fairy tale of the russian brides will end in a comic book quite soon..
Most Real women call it ukrainian / russian they have pride for what they earn and what they have.
if you find a woman that ask you money probably is selling you something. that when you stop to give it. she will stop to offer it . always use your common sense. Just same like with the local gals..
What would you do if you are a beautiful woman getting interested in a fat ugly guy? probably something wouldn't fit for a reason..
Be smart I ve been 7 years in the scene of russian brides but I took a different approach. Never used the Dating sites. but real Action always counts. go and see it yourself.
Wish you all luck. I already found the girl for me so I am out of the scene for good
Off topic, but four days to go and i've just checked forecast for next week in Dnipr - 33/34 degrees and pure sunshine, now thats put a smile on my face, short skirts, long legs and lots of bare flesh, damn i love women...! gotta beat the torrential rain and cold of the sodding southwest here...!
I was in Odessa during summer and although everyone says how there are so many beautiful sexy girls there... it isn't actually all that true. Majority of females I saw during summer were mid 30's to late 50's and most were overweight. ;)
I did see one or two cute girls, but they had some local guy. Hate to burst your bubble guys. ;)
PS> Yet there is always that rare encounter of seeing a very cute girl out with her girlfriend, but that's about as rare as seeing a Ferrari going down the street in your own town.
apal1 yes your right, ukraine girls are not any better looking on average than anywhere else and what your seeing on the dating sites is a self selecting group of the top few % in looks, and most of these girls are well aware of this and out to exploit it. the only thing that is different I think is that the "stunners" seem to like going out to parade themselves during the day especially at weekends whereas in say the UK women dont tend to get dolled up until the evening.
Bassuk> Agreed. A girl's biggest asset in the FSU is her appearance. I blame their parents a little, because they tell them to marry a rich man (so they can benefit too).
A lot of undesireable girls do 'try' to get into an agency, but if the agency doesn't think she's going to make them any money they or the website turns them away (too much time, hassle, etc.) It does help filter out the undesirables a bit. Yet some girls resort to glamour photos not realizing that when a man does come to visit her and she doesn't look anything like her pics, it's one short date and a quick goodbye.
It's harsh, but so is a girl telling some guy she's not interested. In an agency in Colombia, the hottest girl in their agency turned one young guy down cold right in front of me (and him ) and chose me. It is a cold business and I guessed it right that she was very cold hearted, but hot, sexy and passionate and into game-playing for a man she had interest in. I felt for the guy, he'd written her beforehand, and I just showed up out of nowhere at the same time he did.
Agree with most of what you write on here thus far - but not "Ukraine girls are not any better looking on average than anywhere else "
This place most definably deserves its world ranking of the highest beauty per capita - % wise.
I am living in the Apartment zone, and the caliber of women is remarkable, go into CBD and its Bloody Amazing - like a live cat walk show.
But - the best part is that most are still holding up their standard of presentation - right through to middle age. Its not as good as a few years back, but Boy, compared to what I will face when back on the NZ streets next week - there’s NO comparison.
The best advise if a woman looks too good and sounds to good to be true in her profile....don't go!...if she is from a free site, the chances she is a scammer or no good dramatically escalate...Iryna was all that said here and I did not go and found a local girl instead!
Maxi> I used to live in CBD in the Metropolis hotel for the 1.5 years I lived in NZ.
Bussuk> There are definately cute girls in Auckland. And they speak English! But most have partners. I prefer kiwi girls over aussie girls, they have different attitudes about life I suppose.
As for hotties everywhere in Ukraine, I just can't agree there are that many as some guys make it to be. I stayed for 2-months there this year. But maybe our meaning of 'hotties' are needing differentiation. My version of hottie is some calendar girl. If your talking an average cute girl, ok... maybe so, but its because I've heard its more important for an FSU girl to be attractive at all times than one from the west. "Going out of their house" is reason to be attractive, unlike their western counterpart who thinks "going out" is the chance to meet a guy and if not, they don't care much how they look. ;p
There is alot of very good looking attractive girls but they look after themselves better and unlike in the west dont do the 'heavy drinking' or 'junk food eating' early in their 20,s so by late twenties they are totally out of shape. And then hit the unattractive group. Any woman that isnt over weight and who takes care of herself can look good. The same goes for men.
Colin> Yeah, figure-wise Ukraine girls in University have the advantage of not being like their counterpart by induldging in all the beer-drinking, pizza-eating frenzy that happens to most girls in the west during school years and they put on the weight and can't take it off. It's such a let down whenever I see a pretty girl in the US and her figure is like a sack of coal. Most Ukraine girls I met, are so scared if they put on weight because looks and a trim figure to them are EXTREMELY important for their future prospects. Competition is fierce for the good-looking, affluent Ukraine man and they know they are the ones that get pursued.
You think a Ukraine woman is going to easily let her figure down when she knows there is so much competition for her man from younger women? After several children perhaps, and when both lose their looks, but looks are very important to Ukraine girls.
Yet, it's like I mentioned, I don't agree Ukraine as a whole has better looking people than average. Its just that they try harder "to look their best" at all times versus most other women from different cultures.