I love the pontificators on this site sitting in judgement to ensure their rules are adhered to. Well sorry but there are some of us quite happy to send money to people, even sometimes to those we havent met. I have done it. Cost me $200 saved me about $600 and a few wasted days. Did I get scammed or did I make a common sense practical decision?
If I care about someone I will support them how I wish, both montarily and emotionaly, if it doesnt work ot Im not going to cry about being scammed.
It is great for people here to share their experiences to help others identify behaviours that scammers use but not to dictate how we spend our money.
Gemini, it isn't about pontification in the least. It about simple principles that promote scamming. We all do with what we like with out money. It also isn't about judgement.
Sharing experiences, okay, share how you sent the 200 and what happened? I agree with supporting someone you care about, but you can't really care about a person over a few letters and pictures, until you have some emotional quality time with them. This is the biggest problem many guys have. They cannot define the difference and the medium the scammers use is the internet and the money is what it is all about.
No decent woman is going to ask a total stranger for money. It won't happen. My wife didn't make squat as a speech therapist in Ukraine. She was surviving, she did other things to enhance her income, travelling to Warsaw buying and reselling clothes. The problem becomes is these women find some guys easy targets and manipulate them out of thousands when they have been duly warned ahead of time. You can cry scammer all you want, but the knowledge is there on how to establish a good relationship without the economics involved.
If a woman asked me for money, correspondence over. If she asked me what my house was like, correspondence over, if any questions of material possesions were asked, correspondence over. I was never asked those questions by my wife.
Ten guys at 200 a month is a good living in Ukraine, and the pool is full of guys who think they are smarter than others here. They are the lawful prey of the scammers.
I have previously shared my experiences in another post a year or two ago. Essentially I had been corresponding with a lady. She wanted me to visit her. Her city is out of the way and I was constrained for time. I wanted her to come to me. She agreed but didnt want to be stuck in Kiev without resources if I didnt show. I sent her $200 to cover her for any eventualities. She didnt show. Did I get scammed, maybe or maybe she got cold feet, did I lose, no demonstrated she wast reliable and reality is that even if u go meet a girl and spend time with them the cash register still ticks over.
Bottom line is I eliminated a girl and saved myself a lot of travel an inconvenience.
The lady I met instead I am now married to. I gave her money even though she did not ask because I knew it would make a big difference to her and make her life more comfortable.
I have also been asked to help for visas, operations for parents and translation services which I have always declined.
There are no rules apart from what is best for you under the circumstances you face.
Gemini, I disagree a little with no rules. You didn't have to send money for her to meet you. You could have told her you would arrange for her flight from her destination via roundtrip, and I bet she would have declined immediately. I always said I would book flights to meet and many immediately decided I wasn't the guy. Imagine that. I will always endorse ways of guys not sending money directly to the women until they have established a realationship. Hell I made a mistake with my wife thinking I was going to save money on dental work in the states gave her 500 bucks and less than a year later we were back in the dentist office because of the crappy Ukrainian Dental work. If you think it's good have Neonred give you a head up on the shoddy dental work done in Russia/Ukraine.
Hey idiot danny, find me a 100k refrigerator and I will buy it for your 100k house you are bribing your partner with.
my ex gf did not ask for money too but besides of that you spend always too much for these girls.
this girl had a very good salary for such a young girl and a good live
better I did only f her and go
you fall in love because she is so kind and so sexy
but you feel that her love for you is not the same you have for her
ofcourse she meets boys from her age
these girls prefer ukrianian boys
it are big liars, about all they lie
this was my thirth girl there
22 years old, I am 41
great body, very beautifull face
it are all criminals and it will even get worser the next years