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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Is this normal? Author Post ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2008 3:19:35 PM   I met a seemingly great girl off of ElenasModels website. She seemed very genuine, being almost 32 years old, good upbringing, family life, education etc. We have been writing each other back and forth, usually 2-3 times a week. Weve talked on the phone several times. I am to visit her in October and she has made arrangements supposively to take off work. Now this is my question and maybe Im being a prick. I see her logged onto the website daily. Now maybe Im being overly suspicious but why would she be doing that if she is so into me? I guess maybe American culture is more jealous I dont know but it seems that if she liked me so much, she wouldnt be basically looking at a dating website where other men are writing her. I guess maybe I have answered my own question with this statement....my brother met a small town Ukranian girl and after writing for quite a while, she removed her profile. I guess maybe Im using that as a measuring stick. Am I assuming correctly? I just dont want to waste a lot of money between getting an extra visa to enter Russia as well as a plane ticket from Kiev for someone who may be looking out to upgrade. Again, maybe Im being overly suspicious but if we get along so well, have so much in common, etc, why would she be logging in daily when we communicate by personal email only now? Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2008 8:55:10 PM   At best, she's is keeping her options open, so what? Are you not? If you are not then............ah forget it. You have a penfriend with pics, nothing more. BTW, don't think for a moment she is not dating locally also. Your challenge is not to be the only guy on her horizon, but to be the best. BTW, the puritans never made it much east of about the Berlin wall area. You won’t be her “first”. At worst, scammer. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2008 11:19:07 PM   When I met my girlfriend she told me she had been writing to a man for quite some time. I met her after the lady I went to meet did not work out. Neither of us had heard of the other before we met. She told me that I was real. The man writing may never show up so he was history. So in that case correspondence did not mean much and I think this is probably true for the most part. Until you show up and win her most ladies will still be looking. And do not expect to win her heart all in the first visit. Templar Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 7:28:04 AM   I always go with the saying nothing ventured nothing gained. money front,yes you have a wite to be cautious, I think all you can do; like myself; is listien to what the more experienced guys have to say on the matter then make your choice. It the end of the day we all make mistakes, it is just how costly do you want the mistake to be. Who knows she might be genuine and it will all work out, afer all life is a gamble. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 7:51:24 AM   Templar: There is calculated risk and there is gambling. Gambling is for the rich who can afford it or the plain stupid. As for the average guys such as myself, one has to be a little more savvy. I am not naturally brilliant nor am I particularly wealthy, so do my homework and gather information before starting something. The less information you have the greater likelihood of mistakes. The overwhelming good sense advice which most often comes from those who have “Done the business” is don’t fall in love with a photo or fancy words. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 9:04:39 AM   I am sure she is real. If ndfb she was one of the best looking ladies on the site, she speaks English and she has a web cam then she probably has more men interested in her. That does not make her impossible but more difficult to win. Templar Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 12:05:46 PM   Dunromin. I agree with you, photos and words can lie, and as you rightly say gambling is fior the rich or the plain stupid; neither of which catogery I would put myself in. What I meant was after you have done as much research , background checks and information gathering you can do; there is still a little bit where you are taking a gamble. I hope if I continue to look in this direction to show the same caution as you do. As evrybody has said this is going to be the hardest ride ofmy life. I hope and wish ndbf the best of luck and good fortune ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 1:10:24 PM   Well she isnt the hottest thing on the dating site. Does not have pictures in bikinis or mini skirts like a lot of them that scream model and professional moneygrabber. She seems very conservative and very down to earth. And I guess you are right about since not meeting, there is no claim or justification that she would be monogamous. I guess I was just looking for some validation that I probably am not going to get. I leave for Kiev in less than two months. If Im going to meet her in Russia, I need to apply for the visa which is 14 days from a firm out of Houston that will also handle the invite. I guess it just seems a little outlandish for me. I dont think I would be traveling across America to meet someone yet I find myself spending money to travel across a country I have never been to. I guess for some reason I am holding onto old Russian myths that the women are morally better than American women or more relationship minded. It may be a complete foolish idea. ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 3:28:15 PM   And also I noticed when I wrote the initial post, I said 2-3 times a WEEK. Its actually more like 2-3 times a day. Rare is the day that I dont get at least one email from her. So sorry because looking at what I initially wrote, I could see that people would think no big deal. Anyway, thanks for your help! Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2008 5:54:00 PM   NDFB: Depends what you mean by morally. If you are talking loyalty to their family, then yes, if you are talking sexual sophistication, then the eastern girls have forgotten more by the time they are 20 than most westerners will learn in a lifetime. I'm fairly sure they give them lessons in kindergarden, because there is no way they could know what they know naturally. Sorry to burst your bubble but the virgin chasers are wasting their time in the east. ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2008 3:03:36 PM   I didnt mean morally as in sexually but morally in doing right and wrong. You know, like it USED to be in America in like the 50's? Back before every woman wasnt looking to one up you or look out for number one always like they do now. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2008 5:51:34 PM   Russian women have retained the art of "Being Women" and as such IMO when in the west gain more respect than their western counterparts thus making something of an irony of the extreme feminist approach. However that is more about ethics and ethos than morals. Nevertheless, RW (Slavic Women) have survived in a tougher environment and are much more pragmatic. They will do what they need to do to achieve the desired result. That is not always "doing good". Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Is this normal?
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