Could you please give me an idea of what the most common types of scam are? What amounts of money do they generally go for? Do many people fall for it?
danny: If you were rally commited you would get merried. After all its just a piece of paper - so why should you be reluctant? I mean - if you are REALLY going to create a family.
Admit it - you are just making payments for the right here - right now. And in the end when it gets to be too much for you (as things often are I am sure) you will go - or she will kick you out. And her reward will be a brand spanking new house.
Odds are - she will kick you out. And the price of your scam will be ONE HOUSE.
But you know this already - you are a veteran at being scammed. Very experienced.
danny,
You simply don't understand do you, you don't have a family in Russia, you've a girlfriend, an ugly one at that, and a girlfriend is not a family member.
I let the lady arrange the apartment for me in Zaporozhye. She told me it was $100 USD a day. I found out later on that nothing in Zaporozhye costs more than $40 USD. She was living with her son, mother and dog. Her mother and dog went to the apartment. I stayed with her and her son at her apartment. I never did see the apartment I rented.
I gave her money for a plane fare from Zaporozhye to Kiev in the beginning. When it was time to pay a week later, she no longer had it. That was the beginning of my trip and the end of my trip. Dunromin will get me, but there is a lot more in between, and even afterwards.
My mistake with this one was I did not get to know her. That's not to say that after getting to know a lady, she will not scam you. I did not have a choice, really. Shortly after the actress incident, I again looked to the website. I found a lady in Zaporozhye. I thought we hit it off well, and I bought tickets to go see her.
Then, she changed her mind. I already had plane tickets. I again looked to the website and found one that will see me in a short notice. I visited this lady in Zaporozhye after only one letter to her from the websie.
That my friend is......putting all your eggs in one basket. That will never to me, in fact I don't see all the girls....not enough time.... No right or wrong, just my way and your way!!!
I have weighed what you say, beemer. That is the advice from most of the websites. Whenever we're in a relationship, there's no doubt that we can do better or do worse. If I arranged many, it would be hard not to see them all. It would also be hard to leave one woman to go to another woman. What do you tell the woman you're leaving? I have a problem of being honest. What happens when the next woman is not as good? How do you get back your credibility?
In this particular case, I had a back up. I knew we had some compatibility issues with the Zaporozhye woman, but I thought it could still workout. It was either try to work it out or start over with another woman and have a limited time.
Many guys here have said that girl will not take you serious if you see other girls...well, why do you have to tell girls? why offer more info than needed. Do you honestly think these girls are going to offer you info on what guys have come to see them? NO!! Only focus the girl on you coming to visit them...how important is to see each other in person because chemistry is very important.....something a million words could not explain.
To me, I go see the girl I think is most compatible with me. I don't worry if or how many of others I will see. Many times it is obvious if girl or you click when meeting....odds are not with you, if not or just so so, meet with next and continue to meet with others if nothing proves fruitful...just don't lie. I tell girls I am meeting with friends, I have guy friends so if girl calls me, she can see I am with a guy friend, usually never comes to that,which at times girl is jealous type, which I don't like at all, she will check. Play it by ear, if you really like first girl you can always go back.....some girls like it when you are not chasing them....at times it could be a game. Just be very coordial, pleasent, not forward and very charming( flowers for all girls). Rarely should it come to showering with gifts.....you will always wonder was it gifts or what I can provide that girl likes. Reading your posts RagingBull, I wonder if you would wonder about this.....
Thanks, Beemer. As you have said, no right or wrong, just my way and your way. I think I am with a good woman now, but time will tell. One thing about these romances, you can't tell too much about the woman's real personality. I have only spent a week and a half with her, plus of course, letters and telephone calls. Many marriages still falter after many years of courting.
When I was still in Ukraine, I told my girlfriend I wanted her profile off the websites. She agreed. I gave her time to do it, but then I began to tell her again. At first, she said not to worry, I am her only man. Then she said she called her local agency, but it's probably her agency's branch in Kiev that was not informed.
Last week, while we were on the phone and the internet together, I sent her a link to her profile in Natasha Club. Again, she told me she will call to remove her profile. The next day, she told she called them and they will remove her profile by Monday. It is now Wednesday, and her profile is still there.
Natasha Club has a date and time when the lady last logged in to the website. While I had her on the phone, she logged in and looked for my profile. She could not find me. That was the first time that I told her that I had removed my profile. So, I am pretty sure that she logged in. The website, however did not show that she logged in at this particular time.
Since that time, I monitored her profile. It was logged on three different times since then. My girlfriend says that she is not the person logging in. I believe her. Of course some of you don't, but someone is getting scammed.
Ragingbull,
I always have an alternative profile, where I use a very old man and some bullshit words for his profile. I send it to the women that I initially contact to see their response. I have seen about a 50 percent response rate to this old man. Its one tool I use to help me to weed out the scammers. There are many!
-Cooper
"My girlfriend says that she is not the person logging in. I believe her. Of course some of you don't, but someone is getting scammed."
If you got to be monitoring this girl and be the one to tell her to take her profile off site, I wonder if she is into you as much as you are into her. If a girl is serious about guy, she will take profile out on her own. Just my thoughts. I think I still have all my profiles up and my gf has said nothing to me, she took her's off a month after we met. She can see if I log in whether I am still searching.
My concern is that someone is getting scammed. I still can't get over the fact that these agencies are legitimate businesses, but are scammers. This agency is using my girlfriend's profile without her permission.
I would not be looking for her profile and insisting she get it off if not for forums like this. Is she web surfing like I am, looking for my profile? She is not much into computers. I did look into her agency website, after I got back from Ukraine. She was not there. Apparently she already told them, but they had to be told again. I don't know the details.
My girlfriend is excited about having a husband, going to the United States, and having a father for her child. I am still far from that, but I hope it happens. So you're telling me you have a better girlfriend, huh Beemer?
RB....no I'm not saying I have a better girlfriend, just telling you what she did...on her own.
I understand it is possible for web site(not girls local agency) to keep on a girl after she asked to be removed but usually they do( took a several weeks for a girl i knew to get her profile off of site, anastasia). I do wonder why she is not off, all you have to go by is what she tells you, not knowing for sure whether she is truthful or not. It would make me wonder what is really going on. From your previous post, sounded like girl had a computer at home, maybe she is on other sites also.
Don't worry about others getting scammed. This endevour is full of minefields, as long as you understand what is possible, getting abused or finding your love, it is everyone's choice to try it.