Hi,
Just wondered if anyone else has had the pleasure of this girl?
I sincerely doubt she has any serious intentions of any kind of serious relationship.
She writes basically a load of crap in such short sentences that it is beyond belief, She never asks questions or shows any sign of interest. She must be on just about every dating site there is. i stopped writing to her and she writes to me wondering where I have gone, and then in the next letter she addressed her letter to me and then started answering questions to another guy called Gary, obviously, without mistake, aimed at someone else. She has well over 700 letters since last July and swears she talks to no one else only me!! I mean, this girl is having a laugh!! I informed admin via online help; nothing, so emailed them, they said they would look into it. I emailed them again asking if they found anything; nothing. I've emailed them at least four times now, but no one seems interested. I have no interest in this girl, because I talk with another girl, but she wont leave me alone! I wouldn't mind if she was genuine, but she just rings scammer!! As I have no interest in her, I pointed out to admin that other men might be taken for a ride, as no one seems to care about men's feelings I thought I would drop her name on here, just incase someone reading this is being taken for a ride by her. She is a very pretty girl, so please beware, you are probably not the one and only man she talks to!!!!
Metro....do you know what a scammer is? What is her scam??? Letter writing?
If you have used other sites, you would see girls on this site mainly write short letters, if you call a couple sentences a letter. At times I would get a HI!!..thats it....
I don't think she is a scammer...maybe letter writer, it is common with girls from Simferopol among a couple other cities( check Miss Wow's cities)from what I have seen. If fiance sees no problem, she has broken no rules. If she never showed interest in you, should have dropped her from beginning. Good luck with new girl.
By the way...just checked...6 of 10 girls are from Simferopol...does that tell you anything? I always wondered if they must be having some kind of contest to see who can get most letters.....
Wow, took a look at that profile...a nice honey, but way beyond anything realistic for myself if I was still doing this ( and I am not ).
She has a high english level 8, which means able to read/write/speak with good chance of being understood.
In that case, they will write longer letters, its not hard for them if there English is at that level without use of a dictionary, for example a FSU girl that has to use a dictionary to translate/help write basic english letters, it would take ages for her to translate/write one English paragraph to reply to a guy and they don't have that time to write long letters if there English is hindered like that,especially if they are paying for internet cafe time on there often meagre incomes.
This girl, Natalia, because her English is good, can write to lots of men in a smaller amount of time and would get many replies as she is gorgeous and very fookable ( if her pics are real and it is indeed the same girl and she is real ie pics not stolen etc.?), she could easily get confused between different men/different questions asked and may cut and paste answers on her letters or have form letters ready made to save time.
There is insufficient information here to say she is a scammer, have you googled her to see if anything negative comes up on her?
Further info needed to make a call on this one.
Quote: "Just wondered if anyone else has had the pleasure of this girl?"
Had the pleasure of a few over the years, but I don't recall that one....................
Metropolis: I'll not try to advise you on your search techniques but I will give you a clue. Your honey is not child bearing, HE is ball bearing. You simply have Boris and his band writing you nonsense. The lady to whom those photos belong would have no idea they are being used. Find the "Next" button.
So she writes to a lot of guys. Big deal. So what? Have you been to visit her yet?
A figure thats tossed around from time to time suggests that only ONE GUY in TWENTY who writes to girls will EVER GO TO VIST ONE.
Think about what that actually means. Its worse even than it sounds. It DOESN'T mean that one guy out of twenty who writes to her will ever actually visit her - it means that only one guy out of twenty who writes to her will eventually visit ANY GIRL (maybe not necessarily her). Since guys write to multiple girls and only visit one (or a few) the statistics indicate that she may have to write to MANY MORE than twenty for any of them to ever visit her!
And even when a guy visits her she may not like him (who's to say?) so she has to write to even more.
This girl would grow old and grey writing to just one guy for a couple of years, and then another exclusively for a couple of years, etc. etc. etc. until she finally got someone to come visit her! Don't blame her for hedging her bets a little and trying to accomplish this while she is still young enough to do it.
So maybe she lied - claiming she was only writing to you. Big deal. WOuld you have written back to her if she said she was writing to a few guys? Did she ask for money? Did she ask for a plane ticket?
You ask an awful lot - that she be exclusively dedicated to you - especially when you have never met her and have never even indicated that you will ever go and see ANY girl.
Get off your high horse and go VISIT a girl if you want to make exclusive CLAIM to her!
Thanks for your replies guys.
Beemer, yes I know what a scammer is, I’ve met one, wasted best part of a year on her, but that’s another story. I was thinking her scam might be talking to as many men as she can on the theory that someone would come and visit and spend money on her, or just some sap to spoil her without ever meeting, it happens, you guys know full well.
She wrote to me first, she asked a lot of questions and I answered, she knows that I would potentially visit her as I told her about previous visits. I ask her questions and I very seldom get an answer. I think maybe you are right, they maybe are having a contest to see who can get the most letters, or are paid a percentage! Thanks for your answer, and thanks for your regards.
Aussieman, yes, she’s a cutie alright, I think the pics are genuine, she’s on 1st Russian and just got on to Globaladies. If she is anything like the other girls I have met, she would use the agency to get/write her letters in her own language anyway. I quite agree she would get confused with other guys and cut and paste answers. I have done a google on her, found nothing, but I am suggesting that she doesn’t have honest intentions as oppose to being a scammer, I think scammer was too harsh a word.
Jetmba, I’m not here for a personal attack, I just wanted to help someone out who is maybe new to this kind of thing, and who could have fallen in love with her.
Who in their right mind is going to visit someone who only spurts out a couple of sentences without even knowing them??? I’m not saying she shouldn’t write to lots of guys, hell that’s what these sites are for isn’t it?? I’m merely pointing out the fact that she has received a huge amount of letters compared with other girls on the same site, in such a short time, and what kind of progress is she going to make writing letters like that.
Of course I would have written to her if she said she was writing to other guys, like I said earlier, that’s what these sites are for, you expect it.
I didn’t ask she be exclusively dedicated to me, I know she isn’t, SHE is the one claiming that, and I would say lies aren’t a good basis for any relationship.
How do YOU know whether I’ve met ANY girl or not????? Are you God perhaps??
Stop jumping to conclusions, get off YOUR high horse and get your facts right before you have a go.
Metropolis, Natalia is a "pay to read e-mail" drawcard for the agencies..guys pay to read/reply, the useless e-mails she writes ( or are manufactured by the agency with or without her knowledge, ie she gets a cut of the proceeds from the e-mail scam or not ).
You say, she joined Globalladies, a well known "pay to open/send e-mail scam agency"..that site will bombarb any western guy that signs up with them, hundreds of e-mails, you can open them but to reply costs $7 usd a letter, something like that, e-mail sausage factory, money making bull it is...most of the time you don't get a reply, just waste $7 on a pay to reply to each e-mail scam..years ago I had an experience with that crud of an agency!
The girl might not be a scammer personally but a money making tool for the agency but if she is partaking in mass wholesale e-mail manufacture for a cut of the agency proceeds, then that makes her dishonest and a scammer. Scammer: definition "person or persons who obtain material goods or money by way of deception or fraud"
I agree with Aussieman - Global Ladies as an agency sucks! I set up a profile with them last year, but pulled it after two or three months because of the ridiculous costs. You get all these cute girls (who DON'T fit your specified requirements) writing, but they disappear as soon as you reply.
At least with Elena's Models you know (despite various claims to the contrary by disgruntled former clients) that they are real girls who you can contact if you want to make the effort. I haven't had one (out of many that I've written to) who hasn't been genuine. They've all been upfront about the fact that they're writing to other guys at the same time as they're writing and talking to me. The fact that I havent yet found the right one is just bad luck!
Oz, it would take a lot of hard work to set up a network of hundreds of scammmers with different telephone numbers. How would you know who amongst the searchers is going to fancy what? Why bother, when there are so many guys who are so easy to scam because they don't bother reading the warning signs?
Yes, I've been there, and I've spoken to several on the phone since I returned, and the details have always matched exactly what's in the profiles. Maybe I've just been lucky! The only scammers I've come across have been on a couple of free sites that I wouldn't now touch with the proverbial barge pole.
I do not think Elena's models is an organized scam network and did not mean to insinuate that. But in your previous post you said ------"At least with Elena's Models you know (despite various claims to the contrary by disgruntled former clients) that they are real girls"-------
To me this made it sound like you tell newbies every lady on Elena's Models is real and they are not. Elena's models accepts profile info on the Internet and in my opinion has more scammers than an agency that accepts applications in person. And they are slow to do anything about them once they are reported.
No site can be guarantee to be 100% scammer free despite what screening procedures they use, but the sites that accept womens profiles remotely via the internet without a personal interview/screening ( and most sites are this way ), there is a much greater chance and incidence of scammers making onto there books, Miss Petrova does her best to screen them out but in life no 100% gaurantee of anything and when your dealing in a business based on "human nature", nobody can read womens minds what there true intentions or ulterior motives are, some will be dumb obvious and get caught out but some will be very clever and devious to the end and some will be truthful and the real deal for the men that are lucky enough to find them.
I have a saying "What makes a woman great is not her strength, it is her intuition and ability to lie and manipulate, look you in the eye and say they love you but they do not and you think it is the god given truth...the lord has gifted them with the ability to be the masters of sweet talk and lies when it comes to men..beware!"
No dating site can be foolproof against scammers, they get everywhere, including fiance.com from time to time, but at least with Elena's (and fiance.com) if they are reported then they are removed.
But Elena's is legit, I used to communicate with Elena in the old days and she was always very helpful, she's just another lady that has left Russia and decided to start a dating site etc. What's wrong with that?
But what I did find when I subsribed to Elena's for a few months some years back was that is does seem to be over-subscribed with men compared to the number of ladies, perhaps a victim of it's (her) own success, but at least it isn't a pay per letter site, one is allowed X amount of letters per subsciption period, a number that I never came close to using all of, but initially one can send an indication of interest to lady(s) without wasting letter credit(s).
As for Global Ladies, all independent agencies advertising ladies there, no exchange of personal contact info allowed in online communication, every communication $5 or so per shot, they spam guys with initial letters from ladies (held on file) that are not the least bit interested in him and even the independent agencies have to abide by very stringent rules. Basically they hold their clients, men, ladies & agencies, to ransom at $5 a shot for everything.
Aussieman: For the record, Miss Petrova is not MISS Petrova but Mrs John what's his name, (and has been for quite a few years) an ex pat South African, they have two kids together and live on Queensland's Gold Coast.