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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > New member seeking advice Author Post Banfflife Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2008 12:32:36 PM   I stumbled across this website and hoped i could gain some advice from others experiences. My situation is as follows. I have been in contact with many Ladies from Russia and the Ukraine. Over the last few months i have narrowed down my list and am left with a Lady who lives in Sumy , Ukraine. She is divorced and has a Daughter. We exchange letters two or three times a week and will be speaking through an interpreter in the very near future. I have learnt to speak Russian and have taken some time to learn about their culture.I have made plans to visit Sumy in the Spring of 2009. My question is , what expectation should i have , if any. Do these ladies look to leave their homeland and seek a new life in my Country? Should i be asking the question now or would it be considered disrespectful in the eyes of a Ukrainian Lady? Thanks in advance for any advice. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2008 2:04:31 PM   Banfflife, Well if you are going to leave it for a year or so from first letter until first meeting then you should expect that she will be writing to, and probably meeting with, other men also. This is not a general rule but it works on a 'first come, first served' basis, if you are not meeting until 2009 then you have no idea, either of you, if you will hit it off or not, thus you're taking a year out of your life for a lady you do not even know, having not metter her, thus do you really expect her to take a year out also bearing in mind that a lady's body clock ticks at a faster rate than a man's? devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2008 3:00:56 PM   Don't be shy about asking hard questions, if they are serious they wont mind at all, indeed it shows them you are serious yourself. In general older women (30+) with kids are much more likely to be serious than younger women without but there are no hard and fast rules. By the way, you do realise that your taking a big risk pinning all your hopes on one lady ?. ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2008 4:43:26 PM   I have limited experience so forgive me for what I can offer you. I am traveling to Ufa, Russia in October to see the lady that I have been corresponding daily with for three months. I also know a lady (friend only) here in my city that is here from Russia on a work visa. She has tutored me in the Russian language and we have had many discussions what to do and what not to do. While there are some similarities between our cultures, there are a lot of differences. Like previously posted, a year is an awful long time to wait to see her. Many things can change in that time. Heck, things can change in a month. She could meet Mr. Right in Sumy tomorrow. Its a chance we all take. I mean, you could run into Mrs. Right tomorrow at the grocery store yourself. So neither of you are immune to that and the longer you go, the less likely it will wait that long. Keep in mind, all you have are letters and calls. Until you meet in person, you really do not have much. As sweet as the verbage may be, it still isnt anything until its real in flesh and blood. So if you are serious about her, book your trip in the next 60 days. I mean seriously, do you want to be alone for a year until you meet her? Do you expect her to spend her time alone? Its not going to happen. You want her? Then go get her tiger! Delay at your own risk. Now another thing. The lady cannot speak English. That is a big problem. As good as you may get at the Russian language, it will not be the same as being Fluent and it being your native language. If shes serious at all about you and possibly leaving Russia, she needs to learn English. I mean, when she gets where you live Im sure she will want to work or at least get out of the house sometimes without you. I cant imagine living life never leaving the house or having friends because of a language barrier. You are working hard to learn Russian. There is no reason if she is serious that she cant learn English. Also by having a daughter, you will be uprooting two lives, not just one. All Im saying is think of these things. I dont know how old the daughter is but that could be an issue as well. At the latest, I would plan a trip for the new years eve to see her. New Years Eve is huge in Russia. Go have a good time and meet her before you absolutely freeze your ass off. But wait any longer and I fear that train will have left the station my friend. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2008 3:54:01 AM   Agree with previous posters. If you wait until Spring 09 it is too long. Aside from the fact that many things happen in life over the course of so much time, if you write letters for a year, expectations on both sides will be much higher and will make your meeting less natural. Go in the fall, Sept or Oct. Banfflife Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2008 1:19:15 PM   Hey guys , what a response!! I guess i needed the proverbial 'kick up the ass'.. I will be leaving Calgary October 1st , heading into England for a few days then off to Sumy. Some good advice here , thanks Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2008 4:29:21 PM   THE THREAT TO AUSTRALIA AND AUSTRALIA'S INTERESTS Australia - a terrorist target Australia is a terrorist target, both as a Western nation and in its own right. Intelligence confirms we were a target before the 11 September 2001 attacks, and we are still a target. Our interests both at home and abroad are in the terrorists' sights. Al Qaida leaders threaten publicly and frequently. Their declared rationale is often misleading, but their intentions are clear. Before 11 September 2001, Usama Bin Laden referred to the United States and its allies, mentioning Israel and the United Kingdom by name. Since then, he has more clearly identified those countries he considers to be 'allies'. Australia has been referred to in six separate statements issued by Bin Laden himself or his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri: On 3 November 2001, Bin Laden said: The Crusader Australian forces were on the Indonesia shores ... they landed to separate East Timor, which is part of the Islamic world. In an interview released in mid-November 2001 concerning the war in Afghanistan, Bin Laden said: In this fighting between Islam and the Crusaders, we will continue our jihad. We will incite the nation for jihad until we meet God and get his blessing. Any country that supports the Jews can only blame itself ... what do Japan or Australia or Germany have to do with this war? They just support the infidels and the Crusaders. Bin Laden made further reference to Australia in a videotape released in the United Kingdom in May 2002 in which he said: What has Australia in the extreme south got to do with the oppression of our brothers in Afghanistan and Palestine? On 12 November 2002, Bin Laden made a statement that gave more prominence to Australia than any other non-US Western country and reaffirmed Australia as a terrorist target: We warned Australia before not to join in [the war] in Afghanistan, and [against] its despicable effort to separate East Timor. It ignored the warning until it woke up to the sounds of explosions in Bali. Its government falsely claimed that they were not targeted. On 21 May 2003, in an audiotape, Ayman al-Zawahiri said: O Muslims, take matters firmly against the embassies of America, England, Australia, Norway and their interests, companies and employees. On 18 October 2003, in an audio message addressed to the American people concerning the war in Iraq, Bin Laden stated that: We maintain our right to reply, at the appropriate time and place, to all the states that are taking part in this unjust war, particularly Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan and Italy. Another statement attributed to Al Qaida was issued through Al Jazeera television in December 2002. This statement reinforced the threat. It stated that Al Qaida would attack vital economic centres and strategic enterprises of the 'Jewish - Christian Alliance', including operations on land, at sea and in the air. Australia has also been mentioned in statements attributed to Al Qaida on the Internet. Jemaah Islamiyah also has Australia in its sights. It perpetrated the October 2002 Bali bombings - a stark testament to the threat it poses to Australian people and interests. The bombings were a deliberate attempt to inflict mass casualties on Western civilians. Australians were clearly likely to suffer the heaviest impact. We do not know whether direct targeting of Australia was part of the original intent but this has been subsequently claimed by some of those convicted. The Bali bombers - including Mukhlas and Amrozi - have spoken to the media about their actions. Mukhlas stated in an interview with Australian television in May 2004: ... In Australia ... this [is] a curse from God that they be afraid of their own shadow ...It's the victory for the terrorists. There are almost certainly other groups seeking to harm us, both in Australia and overseas. Most are likely to draw influence or inspiration from the likes of Al Qaida and Jemaah Islamiyah, but their secretive methods mean that we may not be aware of their existence until they attack. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2008 4:31:03 PM   THE BALI BOMBINGS On 12 October 2002, two bombs exploded at Kuta in Bali. The first, inside Paddy's Bar, was detonated by a suicide bomber. It was apparently intended to move people onto the street towards a second, larger device in a van outside the Sari Club. This device, also triggered by a suicide bomber, was detonated within a minute of the first explosion. Less than a minute later another device exploded, without causing casualties, near the US Consulate in nearby Denpasar. The official death toll for the Bali attacks was 202, including 88 AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS. The Bali attack was a sophisticated operation. The team that conducted it was coordinated by Jemaah Islamiyah member, Imam Samudra. It brought together logistics specialists, bomb makers, a support team, and the actual attackers - including two suicide bombers. The attack was a Jemaah Islamiyah operation, but it is thought that Al Qaida helped with advice and training. Al Qaida and senior Jemaah Islamiyah member Hambali (arrested in Thailand in August 2003) provided funds. Jemaah Islamiyah leaders, including Hambali and Samudra, received training in Afghanistan - probably from Al Qaida. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2008 3:23:28 AM   Excuse my 2 posts above, these posts remain whilst others have been removed, however danny had been making ridicule of terrorist attacks, causing fatalities, in USA and UK hence my responsive posting of the 2 posts above. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2008 12:01:29 PM   I haven't had any posts removed but when you continue to ridicule such events as 9/11 and 7/7 it is hardly surprising that the forum administrators believe you to be one sick individual much the same as the rest of us think of you. You are a disgrace to the human race. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2008 4:39:29 PM   Not harsh at all, take a look in the mirror, are you an individual that should be raising a child that should be brought up to ridicule such events as 9/11 and 7/7? You are not only a disgrace to the human race but you are unfit to be a parent, do the kid a favour and have it terminated. Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2008 5:30:49 PM   Maybe with a gal like yours, any of us COULD be the parent? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2008 11:47:44 AM   Only with a brown paper bag Batman. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2008 12:38:57 PM   Most of us have better taste in woman and don't spend time dreaming gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2008 12:48:12 PM   wow....no spelling mistakes!!! no punctuation mind...but spelled correctly!....could this be the "salon" writing here? 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