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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Help Needed – UK Tourist Visa For My Girl Author Post SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2008 12:56:39 AM   Turning to you guys for help. I leave for Ukraine on 3rd Sept – my 3rd trip this year and 4th in total. My girl has her “Tourist Visa Interview” in Kiev on 12th Sept – I will be going with her. She will have her Biometric data taken on this day. We will have all papers and proof of our relationship on the day. Problem………….. All information I can find on the net points to the Tourist Visa being almost certainly refused, no reason given, refused stamped in her passport, and I’m 650 griv lighter. The hidden reason will be because she is a single Ukrainian woman. Apparently this happens to thousands of FSU women every year, it’s almost a given that UK Tourists Visa’s are refused. A Marriage Visa is more often granted apparently but, a bit too soon I feel for us to be thinking of this, she really just needs to see England, and my home first for a couple of weeks. Any advice, encouragement or details of experience in this greatly appreciated. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2008 12:14:52 PM   Daniel, Well the authority's biggest concern is, or perhaps was, that the two of you may marry in UK on the wrong type of visa and/or she will overstay the term of her visa. But, in the UK, the rules changed a few years back whereas a foreigner wanting to marry in UK must have the appropriate paperwork including the appropriate visa, even Gretna Green must have the appropriate paperwork/visa. But the fact that you are attending the interview with her should serve in your favour and make sure you have your explanation ready to assure them that you shall ensure that she returns to Ukraine within the term on her visa. The British staff in these consulates are quite ordinary people, I became informal buddy's with the vice-consul in Uzbekistan a number of years back, a very nice guy, so do not be afraid to talk honestly with them. I applied for a tourist visa for a Russian lady some 8 years ago, the consulate in SPb telephone interviewed me before issuing the visa, they questioned if we might marry during her 10 day visit to UK to which I replied that I'd been single for some 40 ish years and that wasn't about to change in the next 10 days, he appreciated my straightforwardness and they issued the visa. Tringa 3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2008 2:42:01 PM   In Russia itself, the Russian Federation, rather than Ukraine, it is quite easy now to obtain a visitor visa to the U.K. for a single lady if the requirements are met. My fiancee got a six month multi entry visa to Britain without even an interview. The Biometric data and a lot of paperwork was required and she had to fly to Moscow to submit these. The guy must supply six months bank statements, copy of passport and similar stuff, write a letter to the effect that he will support financially the lady during the trip, prove that he has met her by sending photostats of visas to Russia, and photos together. Also, if the lady has a good and responsible job with a reasonable income this helps to assure the Embasssy that she has no intention of not returning. Apparently this last point is a very important one. Next week my girl is coming to visit me for the second time. The visa allows a maximum of a two week visit each time. This is an invaluable asset toward the lady gaining confidence, meeting your family and friends, and seeing where and how you live, and what her future will be like, before making such a massive step of leaving her own family, friends, country, and job security. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2008 2:46:11 AM   Martin - Tring……. Thanks, I read with interest what you both had to say. I’ve passed on to my girl about the rules for marriage to foreigners in the UK changing in the last couple of years, and that these changes may actually assist us to get the Tourist Visa, she’s quietly excited, as is her way. A further down-the-line problem we will face is the absolute refusal 3 weeks ago of her ex husband to allow their 4 year old son to leave Ukraine “under any circumstances” The boy sees his father every other weekend and is always heavily questioned – “Does your mother have a man”? – “Have you met this man”? etc. She met with the ex 3 Saturdays ago asking if their boy could accompany her on a possible 2 week trip to England, where the boy would see so much of London etc and it would be very good for his development, he flatly refused, and, as I understand it from what she explained to me, she cannot take the boy out the country without ex husbands written consent. She of course will never live with me here without her son, and rightly so. For now, we focus all our efforts on a 2 week Tourist Visa where she will come alone (I’ll go and collect her) and her boy will remain at home with her parents. She’s 28, lives with the boy and her parents and works full-time as a Supermarket Administrator, earning just under $300 a month, but for this she really does clock up some hours each month. Thanks for advice given so far – I’ll report our success or failure with the Visa as it happens. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2008 6:49:55 PM   I think she should be applying for a visitors visa not a tourist visa. The requirements for a tourist visa are much more stringent I think because the lady has to demonstrate than she can fund the trip herself (an Impossibility for any "normal" person in ukraine). With a visitors visa then they have they only have to show sponsorship by someone who can afford to underwrite it (i.e. you). The fact that she has a child who is staying in UA will be a big plus for her though. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2008 7:23:30 PM   You can take the husband to court and get a court ruling to allow the boy to move with her. It is usually a messy deal and may come down to you paying a higher bribe than he will to the judge. But of course do not do this on your own. If it comes to that point your wife will need to find a lawyer who is well connected so to speak and hope the x is not so well connected because blood runs deep there even if he cannot pay a lot. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2008 7:54:41 AM   Again, I thank you for time taken to respond. I’ve looked at our appointment slip and it is indeed for a “Visitors Visa” – why I have been using the term “Tourist Visa” I don’t know. And looking down the list of things their require us to bring, my bank statements dating back 3 months is one such thing, along with hers. She of course has no bank statements to take, because she has no bank account, her employer issued her with a Visa Debit card when she started her job, each month her salary is paid into a bank (somewhere) and she just withdraws from ATM’s as and when she needs money. She assures me this is common for many Ukrainian workers. I didn’t know a court ruling can perhaps be the answer to allowing the boy to leave Ukraine, I will mention this to her this evening. Many, many thanks. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2008 10:38:38 AM   Daniel, You might also take along your contract of employment and proof of your morgaged properaty or tenancy agreement etc. just in case these might be asked for. Tringa 3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2008 2:21:50 PM   Daniel, It is a good idea to blank out your account number and sort code on your personal bank statements for security reasons. We used an agency for our visa and they advised us to do this. 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