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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Something different and a question. Author Post Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/7/2008 8:04:02 PM   Hey people I havnt been on this forum in over...5 or 6 years I think, grown up and been through a lot, 28 years old now. Well, a few years ago I almost married this Russian girl, her main goal was to live in America, she was already here for her college and travel. I dont want to go into details but it did not work. Well, the whole time I was friends with this girl in St. Petersburg Russia and now we are falling for eachother. She has been to America and likes it but its not for her to live and I am more than willing to live in Russia. Learn the language and all that. Has there been any other cases similar and how different is it for a guy to move and live there than a woman to come here? I am getting a certification as a diesel auto tech which is universal I believe and an Associates in Business. Will that help? Is it even a reality to move there? Evilbaga Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/7/2008 9:19:30 PM   I dunno at all. But theres a guy who has a website called travel2sevastopol.com (Chris) who rents out apartments in the Crimea. Hes an american whos lived there so long that he pays taxes there. Maybe you should shoot him an email. Evilbaga Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/7/2008 9:19:50 PM   But whoa.. Why wont your lady come to the States? Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/7/2008 9:43:52 PM   Well, we started off just as friends for 3 years with no intention of feelings developing, she is pround of her country and city but the biggest thing I think she is really sucessful there, she has a great job she really loves, shes second in charge where she works and her boss is also her best friends so she has it made. Her dad also is not feeling good either and while he does not need support she cant leave him like that. She had fun here, and really enjoyed are customs and food, loves are movies, coffee, and peanut butter, marshmellows and such. The girl has mailed me b-day cards and presents for years and I feel bad that I have not mailed her anything yet but it seems not to bother her at all, its just the type of person she is, and at such a young age...23 yr's old!!! Norm. way to young for me. Well, i'll check that sight out and see if I can get some info on living over there. Thanks a lot. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 8:10:37 AM   B/K: You've spoken to this doll by phone? VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 12:56:14 PM   Just curious, have you been to St. Petersburg already? It's a great city, but very different than the U.S. Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 3:49:01 PM   No, we havnt talked on the phone yet, or met, I have talked to her close friend that lives in California who is now also a close friend of mine. The relationship between us changed from honest friends to something way more serious just recently, we both had feelings I think but always were dating other people and now was the first time both are single at the same time. The girl from Cali swears me and her would be a perfect match. I just got out of the Navy, my ship pulled into Sevestopol once 7 years ago, but never Russia. Me and her are making plans to meet in the Dominican Republic, Moscow has direct flights there, and for me its not expensive either. We are going to see if once we meet that the feelings would continue,...see if it would work and if it does move on from there...but question is what if it works ...what then, how does a U.S. citizen live in Europe...East or West ?? ;-) She says she is thinking about going to Western Europe to get her Masters degree, and has already started taking two days a week English courses, which her English is excellent the way it is right now!! (writing anyway) VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 3:59:45 PM   I'm just saying...before you think about moving to Russia you should go there and see if you could live there. I've been to SPB seven times, and although it is a great city, I personally would have a very hard time living there. And meeting the girl in person would be a good first step too. Although, if you are serious about this girl I think you'd learn much more about her by going to her home city than meeting in the Dominican Republic. See how she lives, where she works, meet her friends, maybe her parents. Save the D.R. for a romantic trip later, if your relationship continues. As for living in Eastern Europe, I'm living in Odessa more or less full time for now, and I got a 5-year business visa that lets me come and go as much as I want for five years. I imagine Russia has something similar; I think once I had a one-year business visa to Russia. For banking and buying an apartment, I had to get the equivalent of a tax I.D. #. My lawyer did that for me; that enabled me to open a bank account and buy real estate. I have another American friend in Odessa who is waiting for permanent resident status. I'm not sure how he did it, but it was not exactly easy. His grandparents are Ukranian and somehow he used that fact to apply for permanent resident status. But still, meet the girl and visit her country before you think about moving there. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2008 4:01:50 PM   I think one/some may find that Chris in Sevastopol is not American but British! BK, With a member name like that some may associate you with another member of this forum, a particularly unpopular Australian, might you think about changing your member name? :) Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 1:16:22 AM   B/K: She wants to live in Russia, yet she is happy to meet you in a distant location. She wants to live in Russia yet she is considering Western Europe........where does the ailing father fit in here? She wants to live in Russia yet she has her "Friend" working you over locally, telling you how great you two will be? Where is the "Great Boss" fitting in? I could give you a clue or two as to where or what that boss is “Fitting In”, but I am sure you can figure that out for yourself. You've been friends for years and haven't talked by phone? Give me a break..!! This is a crap shoot and it isn’t you pulling the trigger. Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 5:01:22 PM   Sorry about the name, something I used on here 6 years ago when I was little ;-) But really, it was a call name I used in the military, which I was still active at the time. I'll change it though. If I do move to St. Petersburg its not going to be permanent, my dream is to live in Northern Italy or possibly East Spain along the Med. coast. I have lived in a goat hut for 2 years in Afgan and was perfectly cozy so St. Pete should be no problem...I hope. Dunromin, the biggest reason we havnt talked on the phone is because she is just recently single, within the week. She made the decision a month ago but didnt know how to break it to him, but she still lives with him, they moved in together after only dating 2 months. She is young ;-) But her father is not in bad shape at all, but it would be nice to be close by just in case something did happen...as in Europe. Besides I love America and bled for her even and will do it again and again, but I dont want to live here either, my dream is in Europe, we just have are preferences. (Oh, and that boss is a chick, I've seen pics of them together at work.) Her friend in Cali is a 37 year old American girl with 3 kids and met a great guy online,...just happens to be in Iraq right now, an E-8 and decorated soilder. Now before you become all ignorant again, get to know a little more information man before commenting, its just rude...be a little like martin huh? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 5:40:55 PM   BK, I was in N. Italy a couple of months ago, north of Malpensa airport towards the Swiss border, absolutely perfect for chilling out and I'm looking for an excuse, and the time, to go back again :) Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 6:56:20 PM   B/K: Nothing rude about suggesting you proceed with caution. Right now you have what? A dream about some doll who is still living with another guy. I've no idea what you call it, but in my world, that is a world of real relationships, it is called, “Nothing”. Your words.......... Quote: "and now we are falling for eachother." And............. Quote: "something way more serious just recently" And............. Quote: "because she is just recently single, within the week. She made the decision a month ago but didnt know how to break it to him, but she still lives with him, they moved in together after only dating 2 months." And............. Quote: "honest friends" And............. Quote: "we havnt talked on the phone is because she is just recently single, within the week." You were "Honest Friends" and yet the guy humping her and most likely still is, didn't know she had you as an "Honest Friend"? If he had known about her "Honest Friend", he wouldn't have any problem with her speaking to you by phone. The very best I can make of it is this assumed women is not the type I would touch with a forty foot pole. However, frankly, I think you’ll find when the dust shakes down, it is simply a case of you taking yourself for a ride. All the best and I would like, for your sake, to be proven wrong but I highly doubt I will be in the longer term. Proceed with caution is the message. Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 9:40:43 PM   Yeah, I lived in Italy when I was younger and some of my oldest memories come from Vezencia, not sure if that the correct spelling, since then I have been to Napoli a few times which was o.k. just a different feel, to me the Northern part of Italy is very relaxed and just chilled out. Be really nice to find a small farmhouse on the country side. Well, mabye on this super information highway I can discover how to make things come true. Business Visa is a reality and I am teaching myself Italian. One step at a time I suppose, thanks alot and talk to you sometime. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 10:03:24 PM   I agree With Dun and VNV. Tread lightly here. My question is she going to pony up for her trip to the DR? If you are paying I would pass on it and meet her in St. Pete. I also agree with seeing herecity, her lifestyle, her apartment, how she works and lives. How is her day to day temperment. I may be wrong, but it sounds at this moment you're falling for a picture and a few letters. I would step back take a deep breath and look at the whole picture. Don't try to accomplish too much on the first meeting. That's why I don't think the DR is a good idea for the first meeting. See here in real life not on a vacation. Good luck and be smart! I always posed this question to myself, would I do the same thing with a lady in my own home area? So what's the difference here but a few thousand miles. It puts it in perspective. Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2008 10:29:01 PM   Ahh shoot, I painted the wrong picture I think for you D. I contacted her on M-space when I was still engaged, and she had a boyfriend because I saw she went to the same 3 doors down concert I was at, it was just a how are you add you to my friends list and bye kind of thing. Later she during her break up I saw her friend in Cali giving her confort through the comments section, and expressed that I was sorry, (I'm still engaged) then a few months later I break up and feeling like hell and they saw that I was going through hell and gave kind words and we all became friends, and talked for awhile but eventually I and her moved on to different people so for the last couple years we might email eachother once ever 3 -4 months, and I had no interest in calling her,...never crossed my mind. And she had no purpose to tell her b/f about me,...why would she? I'm just some friend in another country. Yeah she would send me b-day cards and christmas presents, but she did that for all her friends. I was in a situation where I had to live with my ex, both were just stuck with each other for a little while longer, and we both dated,..didnt work out but the girl I was seeing was understanding...the ex was not, and I was pissed about hers haha. But I am not living there and am a thousands miles away, if I have her heart I'm fine with that, what she does sexually is her business, I dont want to know and I will be getting mine on also, but when we actually meet, and it works and this fantasy of ours comes to reality then things will change to a more committed relationship, we both understand that we may meet and not like eachother. And if I could afford to go to Russia and meet her I would, she wants me to but I just cant right now, so she came to the compromise of meeting halfway, she will pay half the hotel and me the other half, she wont have it any other way. I'm trying not to get offended, but above all eles she is my one of my best friends, and this relationship even if it doesnt work wont change that, she says she loves me about as much as she calls me her dear friend, so I know its mutual. Its my decision not to call her, in Christmas when I see her thats when I want to hear her voice, when I get to actually see her and touch her. I know this is all hard to stomach, I was raised in Europe so my ideas are a little more radical than the average conservative American. It took us 3 years to realize we loved eachother, I have seen the pictures of her other boy friends, she has seen pictures of all g/f's , all I care about is that I have her heart, because she has mine, and eventually when we meet we will be one. Seriously, thanks for the good luck, and if it does crash and burn I'll humble myself and come back and say so, lets drop it??? Deal? ;-) Thanks though for the dark side haha. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/10/2008 1:34:02 AM   Quote: "Ahh shoot, I painted the wrong picture". No you didn't, you painted perfectly............ Quote: "this fantasy". B/K, you don't need to humble yourself if you don't do silly things. The thread so far is about her setting you up in the template scamm and you ducking and weaving to justify her/your actions/lack of actions. I will not be the one saying "I told yo so" when you get the last minute email that she needs just a little extra to afford the plane ticket. Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/10/2008 3:51:01 PM   Usually scammers ....scam right??? She has already spent at least $100 dollars in gifts for me and at the moment has one her favorite russian movies being sent to me, is that a normal tatic? I have not sent her a dime,or even a card ...I'll admit, 6 years ago I was scammed, I sent $40 dollars ..thank god only $40!!! before realizing my mistake. To a girl in Lugansk of all places, scam capital. If it was not for knowing and talking to her friends on the phone and hearing their kids in the backround in Cali I might doubt too, she even emailed some of my friends on myspace asking for information about me!!! See if I was the good person I presumed to be. And by the way they told her some embarassing stuff about my past which I was not happy about. She knows I barely have the money to get myself there, much lest presume to ask me for it!!!! I have my third and final job interview tomorrow, I just got out of the military and will be making a fair amount of cash once I am hire, I know I am, this interview is just a mandatory step, but I have my college I am going to also during nights. I asked her to try applying for a university in America to get her masters degree, then once we are both done with school we will move. She agreed she would try but the chances of switching over to American colleges and xfering all of her Bachelor degree credits over might be a little difficult. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/10/2008 9:58:40 PM   Scammers is a work used much to often, anything that seems suspicious is labed that. BK...isn't it amazing what a few well placed words can do to someone. I was chuckling at your words "It took us 3 years to realize we loved each other"......sounds like puppy luv, how can a reasonable leveled headed guy believe this about a girl he has never met? I have read stories like yours all the time. You make excuses or try to explain your relationship but you know one thing, if you were so sure about this, why did you even bother to start this thread? If it is too good to be true it probably isn't. Seems you are putting the horse before the cart. There was another thread recently, can't remember who it was, guy was assured by a girl in US that her friend in Russia was 'perfect' for him. It was all downhill after she got to US. Well BK, couple questions, why have you not called this girl and spoke with her yet? You make excuse that she is recently broke up. Did girl tell you about cost to fly to DR? Minimum $2000 (which she cannot take without visa because a connection is in US)up to $4000 and by the way....I may be wrong but no direct flights to DR from Moscow. Did she tell you this? Sounds to me like she is playing you, along with her friend in CA. Maybe she will get a free vacation to DR from you eventually. And to think you are contemplating going to live in Russia. Open your eyes and wake up!!! Bastard_Kid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/10/2008 11:18:13 PM   Heres a last excuse, ;-) I have nothing to offer this girl, she knows I wont give her money, she knows I am never getting married again,...just dont believe in it, and she knows in 3 years regardless of a girl I am living in Europe some how some way, the very purpose I started this thread, I came back here after so long away because sometimes there are some really intelligent people with a lot of experience going overseas, I have seen some buttheads on here, knuckle heads,and the you people just flat out stubborn as shit ;-) But some really good and wise guys who met there wife and signed off of here forever(I think I remember nasfan though from many years ago) Not sure though. I have read this forum for many many years (6 to be exact)and heard all the same stories you have and even then I made mistakes, In my case like mine, I didnt pay a websight to find her, or pay monthly fee's to a translater to talk to her. She didnt come on to me but I to her. I had an opportunity to hang out with her and meet her but had to go out to sea that night. When I came home two weeks later she was gone. My head is perfectly fine, I hope, do crazy people know there crazy? haha...aaaahhh. No really, its not the pictures,..sometimes people and things just doesnt go by the book. Sometimes things just happen, everybody is different, my Dad and Step mom met the same way, she was Philipino and they met on chat. They met half way in Samoa, then a few months later he met her in the Philipines and it was all she wrote, married for 10 years. She didnt have a phone to talk and used the internet at a friends house, doesnt that sound suspicious??? ;-) But hell, 10 years and 3 kids later wow!!! You guys could be right and this could be the most clever scam in Russian/American history but when you have this much intel on people I mean, this Cali girl is a true Jerry Springer case!!! Hopefully she has it straight with super soilder, but its never telling with her could be somebody new next month! My girl ..before she was mine, with all her agruments and yelling with her b/f. A real live Russian Jerry Springer Show also, the two were made for each other, but unfortunatly neither is the type to swing that. dang. Alright, its late and I'm off to bed. You guys arent half that bad, just need to be a little open minded. One guy when I was on blu something...worste excuse of a blogger haha. 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