Guys, Now that I've been to Ukraine, spent 2 weeks there, participated in a few agencies set-up dates, have used anastasia, been sorted out by police and apartment owners, eaten their cuisine...
Do I hold any reliability and relevancy as a source on this forum, or do you all still look at me as some idiot 21 year old kid?
At first when I burst on the scene here I was carrying on a bit, that was to stir you and have a laugh but I have come along way since then. 9 months later, do you still hate me?
You are still a brash young kid...but at least you can share some of your experiences whether they are positive or negative. Newbies need to learn from someone.
And don't worry, we had a lot of laughs at each other!!!
I've never hated you nooga,
However you came on here so full of yourself, you believed you had it all sewn up, a 'wife' in Crimea, other ladies you were merely blind-calling on Skype, occasionally you asked for advice, you received it, but rather than a 'thank you' you just became more and more full of yourself and when faced with malutrition once you got there you could only complain of the prices.
I don't hate you, I just think that you're an ungrateful loud mouthed twit who is still wet behind the ears and had you been willing to listen from the outset, rather than calling us names, then perhaps you might have found yourself a serious young lady or few and wouldn't have needed to resort to picking up prostitutes nor getting ripped-off with every step you took.
But it (you) did become entertaining, before you went you were an accident waiting to happen and we weren't to be disappointed :)
Definately a template of how not to do it in Ukraine. Hate is a strong word reserved to someone that deserves it. Since you were insignificant to most experienced guys here you wouldn't reach such category. Personally I don't find such idiocy as entertaining. So I'm probably in the few here that didn't waste one nanosecond of my life watching your Youtube BS. Though you were some kind of hero to the twit in Chelny.
I thought it entertaining. Thought you would have done better, I did and Im over 40 and overweight. I like Odessa and try to go there each summer. The reality is Nooga that the women like the older foreigners because they know how to treat a lady whereas there is no shortage of young and silly in Ukraine to choose from. At least I hope you have some good stories about your trip to take home.
It just seemed like a bit of humour to me nooga.
I was always interested to see how a brash, young Australian would do over there.
There are lots of young women 18-20 on the local dating sites but very few very few young men (I still do not know why that is), I think if you had stayed away from the agencies, you would have done much better.
Hope you were careful )
Adman...read article in my thread about mail order brides. It may answer about why few young men
are involved.......mainly older men and younger women. May get some insights.
Beemer The Moldovian article does in some way answer why nooga stuck out. But I would have thought if all the young guys 18-20 in Unkraine were doing badly, then wouldnt the dating sites in Ukraine be full of these young guys trying to find a girl?
If they are not looking for a girl, is that because they are doing so well they dont need to look?
Have they given up because its too hard?
Are they late developers?
I went there with just that question in mind Adman and still confused. I honourstly think they just want a meal from a westerner and know he will be gone in a weeks time, have another guy the next week and just continue this trend, whilst having a normal life e.t.c trying to find a proper ukraine boyfriend.
Thats just what I thought. Whereas I think in Manilla (I dont know, never been there... but am quite sure they are WANTING to leave country)
Go there and see for yourself... not many young girls from Odessa want to pack up and leave because life is bad, because it isn't and they are happy with it. I strongly believe they are just capitalising on all the western men going there thinking they are on a date for a marriage where really, they are just buying them presents and food...
I dont doubt the regulars on this forum do have a good woman... they would've done their research on their woman and the situation, whereas idiots (like me) went over there expecting women to be sold off for nothing... NOT ODESSA. cant speak for poor ukraine or any other place...and once again, only my opinion.
First of all 21 in most cases is to young anyway to be looking for the married life, him going there and hitting the hookers was probably the best thing that could happen. From experience there is no shortage of younger girls looking for older women, I get 19 to 21 year olds here in America wanting to date me, hell I had a 15 year stalking me before I had to get rid of my favorie email and change my name on myspace, but in the same terms if your in your 40's and a 25 year old girl is comming on to you no matter what her nationality...your just kidding yourself she knows that when you are 60 with floppy big ears and age spots shes will be young still. ;-) You know, there are some really pretty chinese women out there to, and from what I gather have there charms also, very family oriented is a big one for them, ever thought to go that route?
You know what I think...guys just want to hang out with friends and have a girl on side for sex...not into relationships. Can you imagine being around 20 with all those girls around..how can you only pick one !!!!!
Hell beemer why do you think infidelity is such a huge problem there. With all the girls there a guy can choose to have someone on the side and when his steady kicks his ass to the curb he doesn't really worry. I think it's what fighter pilots call a target rich environment. Though TinTin would disagree with me and it's all the women who lie,lie,lie.
I met too many girls through larissa, that their husbands were real schmucks. It goes both ways, but the guys have the numbers in their favor.
nooga, i never hated you, you know that. i just thought that you were young and naive. you may have said some silly things, *but* you were also willing to go there and give it a shot. and yep... most girls don't want to leave ukraine, hell i want to move there! so i'm really not sure why people think girls would leave their own country just for some guy. i'm moving there because i really love kyiv and really love olya. stick around. at least you've also been there! and don't let your first experience there put you off going there again. maybe me and olya will see you there later. /pete