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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > To nasfan6 Author Post TINTIN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/16/2008 7:19:10 PM   Long term you crazy 18 months max i think.sorry nasfan6 if your happy and in love i wish you the best.Are you American or British.Its just i started out maybe 6 years ago after a split with my british wife.I have many english and american friends that have married fsu girls and only 2 have lasted.But i guess you could say the same about guys i know that have married uk girls.As for my life after so long with fsu girls i find it strange when i take out a english woman.I live in london and dubai.If you could see what the thousands of russain girls that fly to dubai every month do over in dubai every month so they can wear the best fur coats when they get back home after a months work you would be shocked.Also kiev its maybe a sight of kiev you havent seen.River palace in kiev.Im sure if you look outside kiev you guys will find a good woman But its like thiland,Not that ive been....OK.I wish you the best.I love the life i leed.Maybe i should keep my mouth shut and let you guys find out.Nasfan i use mail.ru.Nasfan how long you married?If your with your woman why do you bother with this site?Look at this site and try.SO EASY I SCORE EVERY TIME. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/16/2008 11:49:55 PM   So it's about scoring? Hell it's easy to score in the states but theres more to life than getting laid. Why do I come here. To help the guys that are really looking for a life long partner and not some sexual escapade. To set the story straight on how to go about finding a real woman. To help with people that might be misled about the facts in Ukraine. I'm pushing my third year of marriage and not a blip on the radar screen. Maybe luck or maybe I set up a list of priorities that I was looking for in a woman. I set up also how this was going to be a one trip affair and I wasn't going to deviate. If it didn't work out so be it. So that made my selection even more particular. I wasn't jumping on the first plane that some pretty eyes begged me too. I wasn't going to see a woman who needed the agency every step of the way. I wasn't looking for someone 20 years my jr. I was looking for a well adjusted educated woman who had that same morals and goals that I had in life. Someone that didn't ask what kind of car I drove, how big was my house and how much money did I make. Any of those questions disqualified the lady. I didn't care how beautiful she was. Well it worked out, I found an educated woman who was looking for more than material things in life. Some one who was looking for love and a man of fidelity. As for insinuating that women are prostituting themselves in Dubai, well it's more than the Ukrainians and Russians. As for keeping your mouth shut, that's your choice, but before condemnation of anyone why don't you spell it out. Maybe it isn't the girls but how you go about it. I've seen to many big buck guys go over and get fleeced, I'm sure you tell them the same thing you told me,that you live in London and Dubai, boy does the send the cash register radar up with women. Why is it necessary for them to know where you live? Your posts have been a continual drum beat of anti FSU. Maybe you're doing it wrong. Maybe instead of letting the guys find out yourself, maybe you should follow some advice of the guys who have been successful here. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2008 3:20:35 AM   Quote: "maybe you should follow some advice of the guys who have been successful here." But...............they never do. ~Shrug~ Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2008 4:50:15 AM   TINTIN, When I embarked upon this venture I met with ladies from Russia, Uzbekistan and Ukraine, I communicated with a lot more ladies from other FSU countries also. It took me some 5 years until I met my wife and during that 5 years I had come close to throwing the towel in on more than one occasion but I persevered and my perseverence paid off in the end. But in your other thread you have only been looking for the 'right girl' in Ukraine and for 6 years you have only looked in Ukraine. Many (current) Ukrainians are Russian by birth and Russian ladies are spread far and wide across the FSU and in 2 continents, the 2 ladies I dated in Uzbekistan were Russian but you're only looking in, by comparison, the very small country of Ukraine. And then you continue to go on and complain of the expensive habits of Ukrainian ladies. Well I'm some years out of touch with the economy of Uzbekistan, as an example, but in Ukraine it is said the average monthly wage is $300, well in Uzbekistan the average monthly wage was $30 so what might that indicate to you? Perhaps the tastes of ladies from Uzbekistan are 1/10 of the tastes of ladies from Ukraine, that Uzbekistan is not so westernised and still hasn't developed so much since independence! And then you go on to talk of (only) Kiev and make mention that others may be looking outside of Kiev so exactly how many FSU cities aside from Kiev, in 6 years, have you visited TINTIN in your long term goal to find a lady? My belief, from what you have written, is that you want the first prize but you're not prepared to put the legwork in, you travel (only) to Kiev because it is a single 3 hour (ish) aeroplane ride from UK, that for the past few years you haven't needed a visa to travel there, and you simply can't be bothered to explore further afield or indeed a similar distance away because you cannot be bothered, or you cannot afford, to apply for a visa and you put the blame of this at the ladies feet. TINTIN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2008 6:42:17 PM   Hi martin Kiev Yalta Krivoy rog odessa,Kharkov.Not that many.But when i talk to the girls i always say that we can meet in kiev and we spend the weekend together.Also i have friends in kiev so its better because we meet up every 6 or 7 weeks.As 4 money im no high flyer in the uk.I work very hard for my regular vacations,I will post a thread on this site and lets see who has a success sory to tell TINTIN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2008 6:42:55 PM   Hi martin Kiev Yalta Krivoy rog odessa,Kharkov.Not that many.But when i talk to the girls i always say that we can meet in kiev and we spend the weekend together.Also i have friends in kiev so its better because we meet up every 6 or 7 weeks.As 4 money im no high flyer in the uk.I work very hard for my regular vacations,I will post a thread on this site and lets see who has a success sory to tell Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/18/2008 3:57:51 AM   TINTIN, If you're inviting ladies from other cities for a few days in Kiev then, sure, a lot of them are going to jump at the chance of a free holiday, it's the ones that decline that you should be targeting, they'll more likely be the ones that are serious. You've complained that they (all) want money, if you've been inviting them to Kiev then I'm confident that you've been taken on 'their' expensive shopping trips etc. etc. etc. If you're inviting them to Kiev then you may as well be invititing them to the Turkish seaside, a holiday is a holiday after all, and you've talked about holidaying with them all the time, hot sex etc. etc. etc. Well there you have it, you're attracting the wrong 'marriage' types, you're attracting, for lack of a better expression, 'escorts' but perhaps that's the type you like to attract, everyone to their own, but I wouldn't come here complaining that they expect money and/or gifts in return for sex, that's the way the world works so if you're looking for marriage 'material' then you need to seriously change your approach. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/18/2008 6:09:43 PM   You don't know a woman until you spend time with her on HER turf. Why someone would travel to another country and sit in the capital (or similar) city, odering them in from the provinces like order in pizza is logic which escapes me. TINTIN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/20/2008 7:03:41 PM   Hi martin i was with a woman from kiev fof 18 months.Every 6 weeks we were together only when i found out she had 4 phones,One a vertue worth £5000 i started to ask questions.No mater what any of you guys says on this site i say they all look for money.Buy the way if i wish too meet a girl in ukraine and shes not from kiev i would always pay for her to travel its the russian way a man always pays. Привет Мартин я был с женщиной из Киева 4 18 месяцев. Каждые 6 недель мы были вместе только, когда я узнал, что она имела 4 телефона, Один vertue стоящее 5000 £, которые я начал задавать вопросам. Никакая мать, что любой из Вас парни говорит относительн 086; этого участка, что я говорю, что они все ищут деньги. Купите путь, если бы я желаю также встретить девочку в Украине и shes не из Киева, я всегда платил бы за нее, чтобы путешествов 072;ть по российский способ, которым человек всегда платит. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/20/2008 7:35:18 PM   Tintin....is that from machine translation or what??? Are you trying to impress anybody? I think every girl there is different. You got the scammers,the daters, the goldiggers and the sincere and all in between. If your looking only for cream of the crop you are bound to get the money grabbers. I've met several that were really sincere in looking for their partner, I just wasn't what they were looking for. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/20/2008 8:02:07 PM   TINTIN, You're obviously not receiving the message, I never made mention that a man should not pay for their travel but you're paying for their travel in return for them shacking up with you in Kiev and in return for sex, that is called prostitution! Try cutting out any neccessary travelling for them, try travelling to their city to meet them and try accepting that sex might not be on the menu from day 1. Do you really want to marry a lady that sleeps with a stranger on the first night? aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/20/2008 11:29:29 PM   No, you would not marry a lady that sleeps with you on the first night the day you meet = prostitute, cheap whore, user! TINTIN, this sites replacement for poster whose name can not be mentioned. I had to make a comment, tintins got this nailed, let the true cat out of the bag..why don't you other guys wake up..the FSU girls ( especially Ukraine girls ) all say they got problems with work which means either "no work" or "lack of pay" which equals I want your money because they see Western guys as rich and gullible and they will use them to get what they want and they don't want marriage and to leave there country..they want material things and gain at your expense and you don't get to take the girl as the prize back to your homeland...the gift she gives you after she thinks she has used you up enough or can't get anymore out of you is the "proverbial dump your arse" with lines such as "I can't love you or you are not for me" as the best case scenario or she vanishes into the woodwork like a cockroach and you never hear from her again which is more common. I love the lady with 4 phones..must be playing 4 guys a once, what a racket, high class whore, ripoff artist, c.nt! Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/20/2008 11:37:07 PM   Quote: "If your looking only for cream of the crop you are bound to get the money grabbers". I'm not usually given to strong language, but this is the biggest pile of utter bullshit I have seen dribbled onto a forum post to date. Years of experience on the international scene, my now long time relationship and marriage tell me exactly the opposite. Flashy looking sluts may be money grabbers but they are NOT the cream of the crop. Wifey was doing just fine on the Moscow modeling scene (A notoriously dirty scene) and walked away from it because she wasn’t prepared to “Put Out” for further promotion. In fact one Moscow manager is probably still groaning from the swift kick (At 5’9” her kick swing arc is quite wide) in the balls he received when he mentioned her salary could be tripled for a small favor. Apparently he copped one telling blow which brought him down and then wore another on the way down to make sure he understood the rules of the game. The cream of the crop not only looks classy, but IS classy. Beemer, your default definition suggests to me you need to reevaluate what constitutes class in your own mind if you really want to make anything other than a screw fest out of this pursuit. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/21/2008 12:54:32 AM   I have nothing to say about this topic, except that Tintin's machine translation cracks me up. Why do you feel it is necessary to put a bad machine translation of your grammatically challenged English in your post? Tringa 3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/21/2008 7:17:51 AM   Perhaps TINTIN is a Boris beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/21/2008 12:22:57 PM   Dunromin....hold your horses, sorry if I used wrong word.....I was refering to the hottest looking women 18-21 you can find. She knows it and will use it to her best advantage. "The cream of the crop not only looks classy, but IS classy. Beemer, your default definition suggests to me you need to reevaluate what constitutes class in your own mind if you really want to make anything other than a screw fest out of this pursuit." By the way, exactly where in my post did I mention the word 'classy'...that was your word not mine.... Shrug~~~~~~~ Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/21/2008 5:54:31 PM   Quote: "I was refering to the hottest looking women 18-21 you can find. She knows it and will use it to her best advantage." Hot women attract the better and often wealthier men, that's a given the world over. However your implication seems to be that the hot FSU 20 Y/O will use her "Hotness" to unsavoury advantage and again, I dispute this as a generalisation based on experience. My young SIL and her group of friends are hot to the point of near spontanious combustion and I can assure you, no amount of flashing cash and uptown holidays is going to get anyone between any of their legs. More importantly, they are not interested in anyone else's money. They do just fine on their own. They have their jobs, they have their self funded holidays, they have their fancy clothes, they have their cars and whats more, they have a string of young, eligble, well off, educated, LOCAL suitors waiting in line. Beemer, ~Shrug~. Immitation is the original form of admiration. Thankyou for the compliment. Agreed, "Classy" was my word. Clearly you have a different view of "Cream of the Crop" than I do. 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