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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Road Trip Mid Dec Author Post nuerotic Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2008 11:24:28 PM   Thinking of a road trip. Flying into Kiev and renting a car. Stopping off at a few places with Odessa being the destination. The problem: I do not speak very good Russian. I can read ok but suspect I'd get confused on road signs. Anyone going? Anyone interested in a road trip? My plans do not have to fall under this time frame. Another possibility is to hire a student interpreter that wouldn't mind traveling. Any help in directions for this? Hire in Kiev? Plus on a 10 day trip would $50.00 bucks a day + meals be ok? Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2008 4:17:34 PM   Do you have any idea of the road conditions in Ukraine in mid-winter? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2008 5:29:13 PM   You mean that one can actually see the road condition in mid winter underneath the pack ice? peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 12:20:34 AM   i know kyiv is getting cold by then, or so olya told me on the phone tonight! though only about 5 degrees right now. i wouldn't like to drive in mid december, even to odessa. the roads in kyiv are pretty bad. one day on the bus back home from town, our bus went passed a dead body on the road being photographed by the police. trust me... not a good experience. we drank vodka as soon as we got home! /pete nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 3:25:18 AM   Or the road for that matter LOL!!! MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 8:54:36 AM   ROADS ARE MADBESS IN RUSSIA LADS JOKE FOR YOU NASFAN MIKE00 The $100 TATTOO Larry gets home late one night and his wife, Linda, says, 'Where in the hell have you been'? Larry replies, 'I was out getting a tattoo'. A tattoo?' she frowned. 'What kind of tattoo did you get?' I got 2 x $50 notes on my penis,' he said proudly. 'What the hell were you thinking'? she said, shaking her head in disdain. 'Why on earth would an accountant get a hundred dollars tattooed on his privates?' 'Well, one, I like to watch my money grow. Two, once in a while I like to play with my money. Three, I like how money feels in my hand. And, lastly, instead of you going out shopping, you can stay right here at home and blow a hundred dollars anytime you want'. Larry is recovering in ward 23. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 2:19:19 PM   Martin; indeed that is my point. When I said road, should really have said route. Gets to -15° in winter there and even less. Last year a girl I know there in the south tells me it's -15 and the power to the town has been cut for 2-3 days now. (no gas..all electric) I'm thinking f**k me talk about hardship. Better use a 4WD or better still a 4 track. If you're going to get an interpreter make sure you get one that doubles as 3 armed bodyguards. And FFS don't stop for anything, especially if you're using a western car. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 3:03:09 PM   Kirkland, I recall one winter day I stood outside the apartment thinking that there was a nip in the air, when I got in the car it read that the outside air temperature was -18, later that morning standing in the middle of Dnepr airport the wind chill must have doubled that -18 to -36 :) MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 4:40:40 PM   martin minus 34 in moscow for me at times --love it stop your whinging where is your pioneer spirit beautiful i love it -- kirky i drove there russia many long trips nobody worried me ! i thought about the gaurds caper but i also thought they'd try invade my birds pants too ! i dont trust gaurds there mate -- martin whinging about the cold -=-got to be tough man -its just a bit brisk , keeps yu rootin in the winter ay --its great fun ! roads are very bad though you get out past TULA outu moscow they turn to shit i busted the shockers in front and rear of ole lada ---potholes jeses yu dont see em either road to kazan is good - but the drivers are all crazy road hogs most are pissed ahhh mike00 Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2008 6:20:34 PM   MIKE00, Please define where I was complaining? When one, myself, considers -18 to be 'a nip in the air' that might just indicate that one considers it to be nothing more than 'a nip'! I guess you don't understand the English language? MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2008 9:21:50 AM   Martin you cant help yourself you just have to to nit pick don't you !!!! Danny yes full of ice is ok huh lol lol.. about the only thing saves the car from falling to pieces --i recall one drive to vyborg into winter ohh my god !! sliding all over the place like i was on roller skates . Up into finland gets bloody cold and st petersburg as you know different kind of cold its unique ! Any man lives st peters as i did 2 winters well if have no woman you WILL FREEZE TO DEATH HUH ! THEY do have there purposes lol ! Winter in Russia is what you make it ! IAM ARRIVEING DECEMBER BE COLD THEN ! IAM ONLY STAYING 6 WEEKS finish some work catch up with some lovelies --try have a good time try try try after almost 3 bad years --maybe a good time can still be had mate ! who knows . I just hope to god i dont encounter the deciet of last 5 trips - talk about a test of fire ! it becomes too much for your nerves mate --in detective mode soon as your off the plane i dont want it no more huh ! Your looking around at the airport and all russian taxi drivers screaming at you taxi taxi - oh for god sake i get a bus you know they think your stupid going to give them a $100 usd to go 35k's when a bus in there for 300 rubles . I be going straight to my mate and his wife;s place in moscow unwind for few days . I have 1 good bird in PERM but i dont know this city - il go see it -but if i smell the fangs for $$$ iam on the plane back to moscow mate --i dont need the head cases no more huh . Same old song you know --ive heard the little voilin two many times -iam broke , ive got troubles - I LOVE YOU (* BUT WHATS YOUR NAME AGAIN ???? ) If bullshit was an instrument the women would be a brass band huh lol lol lol.. So i will say ( GOT TROUBLES ) call the cops , go stay in the monastary - this boys wallet still recovering from 3 years of deciet ---its CLOSED UP YOU KNOW ! SORRY MY LOVE IL SAY ITS YOUR SHOUT , IVE DONE MY DONATIONS TO MOTHER RUSSIA ! THIS TRIP BE QUIET FOR ME no more cigars and dollars falling out my pockets like confettie at the military parade - il be real quiet this trip --be real direct to the bird too ----------hear it is me ! you like good -- YOU DONT LIKE THEN TAKE OFF OR - make a meal sitdown dont bleet problems too me --------if you dont like - then speak up -- i dont have time for bullshit ! I got no time for gomers - or forest gumps lol lol ! Being to kind mate in russia they see it as weakness and they exploit !!!! so iam taking my mates wife ( nadin ukrainian - her advise ) no more nice guy she told me ! ive known her 10 years she never spoken me wrong yet ! -she told me harden up ! so i will ! you get to a point danny in life -where true ''you just dont give a shit no more'' - you heard it all to many times thats about where iam at now mike00 Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2008 4:45:58 PM   "the roads are 10 times better when the pot holes are full off ice ... winter is great " Dan - thats got to be your best post ever :-)))))) Where u at this point in time ??? Aussie or Russia ????? nuerotic Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2008 12:53:00 PM   Best reply was the potholes being filled in with ice! Loved it. Well maybe my patience or lack of is getting the best of me. I would like to knock out all cities in one trip. Maybe I will need to wait for spring for that to happen. Shoot. I mean..I could just go to Odessa. Arrrgh.... I want to see all the girlies! :-) peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2008 7:02:00 AM   > I want to see all the girlies! then you had better plan a trip in the summer! kyiv was fantastic (for that) this year! and i'm sure next year olya will kill me! lol /pete nuerotic Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2008 2:08:34 PM   darn. double darn. Thinking of bucking the trend. Buses. Any links for buses? Certainly people go from Kiev to Odessa even in the winter. Pete - I just read some of your other posts. Congratulations! That's great you are making your dreams come true! I was in Kiev last Nov. and it's beautiful! My last day was the first snowfall of the season! Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2008 11:22:17 PM   It is a long way from kiev to Odessa on a bus. They travel about 30 miles an hour and stop every so often for smokes and bathroom. The bus is about as fast as the slow train. Get a sleeper express train. Would be better to stop half way in between if you have other places to visit then it is an overnight train. One shot would probably be over a 20 hour ride. The train is usually a fairly smooth ride especially compared to a bus. Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/25/2008 2:29:40 AM   As my Russian gal says, "In Russia, 9 months of winter and 3 months not so good to skate." In West Virginia we said, "9 months of winter and 3 months road repair." Kirklanddude: In West Virginia, most had 4wheel drive but it is not "manly" to be engaged in 4wheel drive. My friend driving down the mountain from work in the mines slid off in the ditch finding himself totally upside down. When approached from behind he said, "Boys if I can get her in 4wheel drive, I think I can get her out of here!" nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/25/2008 8:24:38 PM   TD you have Lineage from WVA? My family is from Weston. LMMFAO about the 4wd line, that's the truth!!! I remember when my great grandfather died, it was in 1976 we went back, He didn't have electricity, Running water was was a hand pump in the sink, he had a crescent stove to cook and heat water. Smoked ferociously and drank his own liquor and taught me that you sip good whisky you don't pound it down. Had his own crops and animals and lived off his land. High technology, he bought an old tractor with steel wheels instead of the mules he used to use. Funny, he was chopping his own wood until 98 and died in his sleep at 103, the mailman found him after missing him for three days at the end of his lane to greet him and get his mail. I really learned what secret to a long life was and he was a man amoung men. And to think they make fun of the people from Applachia Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/27/2008 11:03:34 PM   Yeah nasfan6, I'm from West "By God" Virginia. A real ridgerunner from Greenbrier county now living in Texas. It's interesting that many Russian gals are city dwellers but I've enjoyed talking to them about gardening/farming. Every hillbilly will talk about his garden. The Russians go to dachas and have vegetable/flower gardens. They can vegetables, tomatoes, soups, put up jams and jellies just like down home! I'd love to be stirring a big copper pot of apple butter outside about now. Stirring all day, tending the fire, smoking, chewing, drinking, talking. So it's been fun to talk with them about the country. To nasfan6's great grandfather -Mountaineers Are Always Free- nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2008 2:57:59 AM   TD you aren't kidding about gardens. The first thing the wife dreamed of having was a large garden. So I tilled a half acre for her. Hell I hate gardening because as a kid my father made me work in it while my buddies where out playing football. The city girls do love the country because they don't get to it much. She and I'm not kidding would literally spend hours in the damn thing along with the numerous flower gardens I had to do for her. She said its theraputic. Theraputic my ass!!!It's work!! Yeah, old Benjamin, lived the life of a day gone by. I envy him now, he lived long because he didn't have stress in his life. His stress was his land and God what a beautiful 55 acres he had. He had very little material, but as far as I'm concerned he had everything. I wish my father hadn't sold that land. It would have been cool in my early twenties to live the way he did. Hell I probably would have never come back because his view from his back porch which I still have burned in my brain. He told me once that living where he was as close to being in heaven without being dead. He said you could touch heaven from there. 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