I am coming to Nikolaev in November for 2 weeks to meet someone I've been chatting to for a while now. Does anyone know of any agencies that are located in Faleevskaya Street? If so do you have a phone number or the name of the agency please.
billgreen. Congrats on you living there for a year now. It is a dream of mine to live in Ukraine and find the girl for me. Preferably teaching English as you do. I imagine that you do not make much money but enough to pay the bills and be happy. Slowly I am making that transition. However...financial security is a bitch. She keeps you from living your dreams. I really admire people like you who have done what I dream of doing. Giving up what I have and making the leap of faith...probably being poorer financially but happier.
So you seem negative on the agencies yet I can't help but think maybe you found a girlie there! If so congrats!
This marriage agency thing is a bugger and crappy and stupid and really sucks. 95% of these girls are I'm sure sincere but the allure of money and the system just corrupts them.
So, is this the case everywhere, that it's a scam? Odessa, Lugansk, Poltava, Mariupol seem like other towns that are fairly crawling with women who will send you any kind of letter, buttering you up.
At some point, some age, I have to guess the women are more sincere? If they are average looking?
What age, what age difference can you realistically expect to meet someone that would actually want to be with you? I am not in bad shape, full head of hair. Skinny perhaps. I get a lot of emails from women who are open to a fairly wide age range. It's all about the benjamins? How do they know who has what? Why bother writing to someone who maybe has little or no real money?
How have you found teaching? Can you make a living at it, in Ukraine? I have thought about that, if jobs in the U.S. run out. Although I suppose the economy is sinking everywhere.
Jack....yur kidding right?.. Must have been written by a guy that went with lots of hope and came back empty handed. Some guys being middle aged with little going for them, a few bucks and expect these FSU girls to fall at their feet.......ain't going to happen....
Losers are losers where ever place they may go............
I was also impressed with the dating sites on the left....right next to the story to not bother with meeting up foreign girls...............
that was funny reading. i especailly liked the part where he rode free in taxis for one month because they 'love' englishmen.
here's the bottom line:
you are suspicious because there are a lot of beautiful girls from one city?
you should be.
here is whats going on.
are these ladies real. yes. someone has taken their photo and offered to get them professionally developed for free. all they need to agree to is that their photos will be posted in a marriage agency. then...
english language college graduates will begin writing you under the guise of these beautiful women. they know its wrong and maybe they feel a little bad. but they don't have a lot of oppurtunity for work so they do it.
how do i know this. two ways.
1) beautiful women no matter where in the world live like queens in their own town. most don't want to leave.
2) i've met and befriended the translators who worked in these agencies. they all say the same thing
I don't doubt what you have been told by translators gecko but personally, luckily I have met very few of these girls. It doesn't take very long to figure out who is writing letters, the shorter they are or generalized, the more chance it is fake,
I dont know who the clown is that operates that site but it makes me laugh.
click the "people" link on the right side it says "Nikolaev is a social rainbow utopia" yeah they look really happy. - and the "business" link -Nikolaev is "poised to be the next Dubai" along side a picture of a caravan seving burgers
What you mentioned gecko is true to many guys but if you are in control things do not
turn out bleek.
For instance, I meet in girls city because I have other girls lined to see, in case. So if no chemistry, no problem, next girl. If I need a interpreter, I'll use the girl's for first
meeting after that no or maybe for short time next day. This will tell you if she is interested. I have never been to a girl's agency, in fact I have only been in 1 agency it was in Kiev. Last and only time....seems girls are just daters there.
We may not be holding all the cards but we can stay in control. Part of being in control is focusing on 1 or 2 cities, get to know them well, make friendships, this will go a long way to
making trip sucessful. Many times when I am on my trips..the girls call me...I give them my number and if they call we get together.....and when meeting I can usually tell if they are interested. I try to look busy cause I think it makes girls more interested in me.....nothing worse than sitting around waiting on a girl.
Well, the good news still requires you to be halfway decent looking and know how to interact with people in a normal and social way. So lets assume you meet these criteria. If not, please try your luck in the phillipines because ukraine will rob you blind then eat you alive.
You need to meet people in a way that you have direct contact with the women. Their are three ways to do this. The following is listed in order of preference (best to worst).
1) live there as a businessman. Make friends with locals. At first, with english translators working outside the marriage agency, then with her friends. Go to events, clubs together. In other words, create an environment where you can meet people through other people. This is still the best way, inmho, because, for some reason, people trust people who know other people.
2) free dating websites. fortunately, the local dating sites in russia and ukraine are free and heavily used. There are many sites, but they mostly point to the same database of people. Try love.optima.ua for one. although it has many other names.
3) sites where you can get direct contact info. i.e. brides.ru. i think this is self explanatory.
Note: ukraine is by far the most traveled country because of the non-visa rules. because of this I would say that russia represents the best opportunity to meet someone because of the lack of competition.