My girl from Russia is actually coming to Colorado to see me for Christmas this year!!! We will finally meet for the first time in ages!! Well, actually meet, the first time we barely even said hi before going to are own group of friends. I always see on here how the guy always go to the girl in Russia, I take it that not very often will a girl get a Visa on her own and fly here on her own expenses...she already showed me the itinerary. As you can see I am just excited and had to share it. I know a lot of you thought my story sounded like a classic scam case but look!!! )))) I receive surprise gifts from her all the time, talk to her...got her pissed off at me a few times at me, but all in all what we have is surreal. Now to see how her credits will transfer over to an American college so she can get her masters and get things rolling forward. I bought the rosetta stone level 1, hopefully it works, she wont let me spend money on 2 or 3 so I have to make this count before she starts teaching me Russian. Well, I'm taking my excited but very tired ass to bed, full time school and full time work is rough when nearing the 30 age range.
Carefull mate visa??? you aint paying for something your not going to see - do yourself a favour ask her to scan a copy of visa send it to you email ! hey seeing is believing - if she tries hit you up for $$$$ her to come -hey thats a big RED FLAG !
SCAM TIME YOU KNOW ! just be carefull . I would like just 1 Nickel for every guy that has been taken ''for an all day sucker for $$$ on the great ole visa scam !
IT GOES LIKE THIS
Iam to moscow darling !! you not believe it -iam just robbed all monies ohh dear i such glad i have you to pay for all !
I RENTED ROOM WITH OLD LADY $10 EACH DAY such lucky i have it in moscow !BUT ONLY IT UNTIL they give to me visa ! i have it only $1,266 usd ! ( my god the things i had to do for that ohh you not want to know --and iam not going to speak it too you ! lets just say it left SALTY TASTE MY MOUTH !)
the visa $400
the air ticket i not know i too lose it??? $1000 please !
darling i want buy for you suitcase full duty free gooodies = just for you wine beer everythink !!! $500
please darling dont sent the big westy union to me ( i feel such bad already ) send it my sister in Novgarod !! you know the one i speak you off !
she had it drug problem- SHE BECOME PROSTITUTE IAM SHOCK?? NOT MORALS IS PIG ! ( bitch operate on my turf! is NOT GOOD BUSINESS ) ( she run out of monies - now not OPIUM habit not more )
she care for monies for me ! it just to mean i must to travel back on train to novgarod only $121 each way --first class of course - i cant be seen with beggars third class my god i be cry !!
you not want me tears no????? i love you !Abdulluh ( oops ) i mean John !
my love now you that i speak (* i hope ) that you to send to me total $2500 usd i very much love you ----------you know it ---you seen my picture long blonde hair !
( in truth she had short hair and it was black )
I spoke you my mum not so good ! iam big worry ( actually she told him mum had died 5 months ago )
From the last guy she got $$ from -- she bought eternal life elixer and fired mum up again --get a lottu milage outu the family --they just seem to hang around forever huh !
My love i hope you not mind i send this phone call reverse charge to you - my god you must be rich ''operator she speak so far we talk $213 cosat this call'' !! i such glad you love to me so much to pay for all such .
you should slow down on all spending my love - my god you finish as beggar and certainly i not want beggar for boyfriend !
love you - kiss you - miss you so much Frank !!
yours Valeriya .
ps
I make promise on my mothers life i not seen other men NOOOO!!! I DO ALL IN LIFE WITH EYES SHUT !THIS WAY I NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DO SIN MY LIFE !!
B/K: Mike has gone a bit over the top, but…………………………May I suggest you buy your Christmas treats in single serves and at least you can freeze the second portions for a later date because you can bet your last dime, you’ll be eating both halves of the Christmas treats solo.
Delusion one is thinking this doll whom you have never met is going to spend up just to visit you for Christmas just because you are you. Delusion two is imagining IF she was to show up which is about zero chance, she would be using you for anything other than a setting down point AKA stepping stone on the way to bigger and brighter things. Delusion three is believing so called proof of her intentions. Go ahead and get a scanned copy of her visa but it is useless because it will only be a photo-shopped construction anyway. Delusion four……………………you fill in the missing words, whichever way you look at it, Santa isn’t going to deliver an RU/UA or any other form of FSU lovely this, or any other Christmas. Home delivery is not so common in the east, it is counter service only.
Kick your delusions to the curb and go visit. If you can’t afford to do that, you can’t afford a foreign partner. This is no cheap adventure.
Can you people not read, this girl has not asked for anything, perhaps some of you were taken to the cleaners, and if all you are looking for is to get laid well ain't that a shame, this guy says he has not given the girl any money, she spends money on him, and she is coming on her own dime.
Who knows, perhaps she has money in her family, maybe she has money because she scammed losers like MIKE DOUBLE ZERO (how appropriate that name is!!) and now she has found someone she wants to be with.
Now, if she does say she lost the ticket, etc then yes there could be an issue, otherwise it sounds pretty ok to me.
there was a very specific question: how did she get the visa:)
very common story: she sends copy of visa, she sends copy of passport, then she needs insurance to fl y, then she was pocket picked and lost tickets... so be careful. have you talked to her on the phone? do you have her real address? have you met her in person?
if she has problems with tickets, insurance, whatever- DO NOT SEND MONEY. it is her problems.
otherwise , it is very possible, one my find went to US to meet her internet firend. she got visa, she visited him, and came back already. no problem:) visa do get issued.
NO LOSER HEAR PAL ---JUST TRYING TO SAVE 1 FROM BECOMING ONE ( YOU'L BE SORRY MATE ) SHE'L RUN RINGS AROUND YOU - LIKE A WHIRLWIND ! PUSSY POWER ( THAT BEARDED OYSTER - BY GOD ITS GOT SOME POWER ) LOL LOL .
YOU'L BE C----T STRUCK LOL LOL.... SIMILAR SUN STRUCK JUST A BIT DIFFERENT !
DUNROAMINS CORRECT THIS AINT FOR THE FAINT HEATED AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WALLET AKIN TO DONNY TRUMP - TO GO PLAY IN THIS PIT !
IF YOUR GREEN YOU'L GET SKINNED / DRAWN AND QUARTERED AND HUNG OUT TO DRY !
SHE PAYING HER OWN WAY --YEAH OK ! OK --HAS TO BE A FIRST IN HISTORY SOMEWHERE IAM SURE , WHERE DO YOU THINK SHE'S GETTING THE LOLLY TO COME TO YOU !
WHAT FROM BILL'S PAWN SHOP ??
SHE DONT HAVE MUCH TO PAWN ---SHE MAY HAVE SOMETHING FURRY TO SELL !! BUT THERE AINT MANY BUYERS IN FSU --( EVERYBODY TOO BUSY TRYING TO EAT )
THE FAMILY IL HAVE YOUR FUTURE ALL PLANNED OUT --BELIEVE ME !--SADLY IT WONT INVOLVE YOU STAYING IN CHARGE OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT .
I'l wager $500 before she hits that airport that you have been hit up for $$$ in some way !!best of luck mate !
I will say something for most all us chaps hear - in 1 way or another we have all been skinned , over time .
you can't help some people huh --there is times in life where blokes are determined suffer a loss to learn.
your the prince on the white steed with 400k in saddle bags yes !look like errol and you have a sword !that you have to strap to your knee lol ok.
then she finds out - muma dont like you ! so its pay off time keep the rellies at bay lol .
darling you mean she'l say you not buy me apartment 5th avenue as you promise --you have me change saddle cloth on old horse in colarado - you pig lol.. lol..
truly mate be carefull the family has a wonderfull habit all going bust just as soon as your in the picture ---!
the voilin starts playing the background ! now granny have that 30.000 ruble opp she's always wanted ( the trip to the black sea at yalta thats always eluded her because niece could never find a punter big enough to fall ''for the free poker card trick '
but there ok now ! she's coming to you - and guess what = your payin!!
she has to have money olga --lots of it and as you know 7 of 10 its not going to happen ! if he sends money then kiss the monies goodbye !
the obssetion for monies from these women seemns to be getting worse ! but for what ? monies is paper - you cant love paper
mike00
PS I HOPE ONE DAY THAT RUSSIA UKRAINE OPENES THE DOORS TO GO PLACES AS EASY AS AUSTRALIAN OR AMERICANS CAN GO ---------WHY THEY DONT DO THIS IS A QUESTION ON EVERYBODIES LIPS?
ITS REALLY STUPID TO KEEP A PERSON IN A CAGE SO TO SPEAK -------IF THEY WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD THEN IT SHOULD BE A 20 MINUTE THING - BUT A TICKET AND GO
GET RID OF ALL THE VISA SHIT AND CRAP .
IF THEY WANT TO GO --LET THEM GO - WHO CARES ! THATS WHAT RUSSIAN GOVERNMENTS APPROACH SHOULD BE --EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO BETTER THEMSELVES --UNRESTRICTED !
IF THERE WAS NOT MONEY INVOLVED IN GETTING VISA'S ETC IAM SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE 50% MORE RUSSIAN PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD THAN THERE IS NOW.
RUSSIAN RESTRICTION ON ANYBODY TRAVELLING IS CRAP -----------I LIVE IN HOPE THAT ONE DAY IN OUR LIVES WE SEE ALL THE VISA SHIT THROWN IN THE BIN AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO.
Mike, sorry I did not undestand your post:) Russian goverment doesn't let somebody travel????:))))
what are you talking about . russians travel anywhere, nobody cares. many countries donot have visa for Russians. who is keeping Russian poepl in cage?
Well IF she asks for money then yes it is a scam. Personally I would go see her first, see what she is like, etc. I just think many people on here assume everyone is a scam. If you show you do not trust her and demand she photocopy the vise, etc what do you think that will say to her??
My advice, treat her like she is telling the truth until you know otherwise... At the same time keep a lookout for anything which says she is just playing you for some coin.
The issue is the reverse of what MIKE DOUBLE ZERO says, the USA, Canada, etc makes it difficult if not impossible for Ukraine girls to come visit, if you ask me this contributes to the whole problem of human trafficing. If they could easily visit on their own, they could not be controlled by scumbags making money from them.
You have re-educated me Mike. I always thought it was the other countries that made it difficult for FSU citizens to visit not that it was the FSU countries keeping them in. I could have misunderstood you though your words jump around so much that it is difficult for me to follow your thoughts.
I do not think student visas are that difficult to get. And if you think there are not people in the FSU that have money I think you were asleep when you were there. If you check with the big universities here you will find there are fsu students attending.
Of course if she starts asking for money she is probably not coming. I would not worry about scanned copies of her visa. If she is fake she probably has friends who could generate this.
BK if I was you I would definitely not act on any of the warnings above. Keep them in the back of your mind in case she asks for money. But if she doesn't and shows up then that in itself proves that she has financial backing to get the visa. If she is real and you give her the third degree she will vacate and you will wind up with a real scammer like some of the folks above did.
She may not have asked for anything up to now and claims to be coming to USA to visit you at Christmas..well like people say a photocopy of a US visitors visa can be "photoshoped", doctored and modified from a real copy of a US visa and there are fake pictures of US visas circulating around the internet.
The only way to verify a US visitors visa is real and issued to a correct and real person and is valid for travel is to get a copy of the visa number, name of the person it was issued to and when it was issued and contact the US embassy/conulate in Moscow and give them this information to cross check if the visa is real..in most cases it will be found to be a doctored fake...yes visitors visas are given to single Russian/FSU women but its very rare and hard to get one as is the same case with other countries such as Australia, United Kingdom and Canada.
Only send money to her if the visa is verified as real and valid for travel by the US embassy in Moscow and the air tickets are confirmed real by the airline AND only mimimal amount is required for travel...there is no requirement to carry any money into the US or show $1000 money at Moscow airport before she can leave to officials there ( these are common scams ) and visas don't cost $400 or $1000 usd or some other excuse you have to pay for medical tests for visitors visa ( no such thing, another scam ), US visitors visa is no more than $150 usd in cost for the application.
Often these girls will not ask for money until they pull off the "I need money for a US visitors visa and air ticket at the airport sting" when they start asking for hundreds or thousands of dollars at the last minute or they can't travel and are dying for your love and to visit you ( play on your emotional vulnerability, desperateness to get you to part with money you will not see again and you won't see the girl at your airport at the other end while you wait there like a stunned mullet for a no show ) or another famous sting and scam "I lost my Russian passport and it will cost a $1000 to replace it and the visa inside it" which is total B.S
Many of these FSU women who turn out to scammers will not ask for money from the start..the smart ones are very patient because they know asking for money early on, over the internet does not work anymore so they play you and your emotions and pull the visa/airfare sting/lost passport at the airport to ask for moeny scam at the last minute so you hand over money thinking she is coming on a plane to see you and she don't turn up..very old scam.
Wake up, don't be so gullible. MikeOO is right and buy the way we are not brothers..not related, my grammar and spelling is far better than his but he gets his point across regardless!
I would not trust a Russian/Ukrainian woman over the internet as far as I could throw it.
Aussiman you say-------"Only send money to her if the visa is verified as real and valid for travel by the US embassy in Moscow and the air tickets are confirmed real by the airline"-------. Why do you advocate sending money? So you write to her for a long period of time. She gets a school visa to come to the US. She has ask for nothing. You tell her you need a copy of her visa and tickets to verify she is not leading you on. Do you tell her you are just doing that because you want to send her money. How romantic!!!!!
BK I would definitely not listen to that. There is no reason to send her money until you meet her.
maybe i got lucky but i don't think so. olya gave me her phone number and we chatted for hours and hours for about a year. then she gave me her address and arranged to meet me at the air port. we lived together for two months. if it didn't work out we would just be friends and nothing more.
she's just a girl and i'm just a guy. different countries, sure, which just makes things harder.
well we now have *just* (lol) a relationship and will be living together.
it's just as simple and difficult as that.
in short.... chat to her for a while on the phone... and then go to see her if you *both* want that
Aussieman i tip my slouch hat to you mate that post your NOT 100% correct your 1000% correct -
The visa stuff mate far as iam concerned the whole lot should be in rubbish bin true for all of FSU AND UKRAINE I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE FROM RUSSIA SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEAVE RUSSIA AS SIMPLY AS WE AUSSIES ENTER THAILAND AND YOU KNOW HOW DEAD SIMPLE THAT IS .
TO MARRY RUSSIAN BIRD NO VISA NO NOTHING SELL HER A TICKET SEND HER ON HER WAY UKRAINE SAME .
THATS HOW DEAD SIMPLE IT SHOULD BE IN 2008 AND IN SOME COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THATS HOW SIMPLE IT IS -SO WHY NOT FSU ???????
VISA IS CRAP - CRITERIA IS CRAP ! FORMS ARE CRAP TOSS THE LOT PASSPORT GOOD ENOUGH I MEAN LIKE THE RUSKIE GOVVY GIVES A TOSS ABOUT ANOTHER DEAD BODY IN A MOSCOW PARK.
SO IN RETROSPECT WHY WOULD THEY GIVE A TOSS WHERE / WHOM GOES TO WHERE ? WHATS THE POINT HUH ! WHOM ARE THEY TRYING TO SAVE ? AND FOR WHAT EARTH SHATTERING REASON ?
K1 JUMP THROUGH A HOOP = WHY = FIANCE VISA ANOTHER HOOP = WHY
WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT A 1 FEE OUT SAY $200 DO WHAT YU LIKE GIRLS SEE YOU IN NEXT LIFE BY BY ! IMAGINE THAT 20.000 ON THE PLANES -- I MEAN YOU KNOW AFTER 60.000 LEFT WENT TO USA AUSSIE / POMMY LAND BE SCAM DECIET BE SOME GOOD STORIES TOO BUT THE NOVELTY IL WEAR OFF.
THEY'L ALL END UP GOING HOME TO MUM ANYWAY LOL - RUSKIES CAN CHARGE $200 BACK IN TOO --MONEY FOR JAM ( THE CORRUPT GET RICH WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY ) AINT THAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT???
MONEY HUNGRY SO FEED THE LION HUH . AFTER 2/3 YEARS EVERYBODY IL BE AWARE OF WHAT DECIET HAS ESCAPED.
ALL WILL BE KNOWN , NOVELTY BE GONE AND OLD - LIKE THE GHOST TRAIN AT SYDNEYS LUNA PARK YOU KNOW - ALL BECOMES OLD HAT !
THE GOVVY OF RUSSIA MAKE A SITE MORE MONEY WITH A HELL OF A LOT LESS COMPLEXITY
THEY REALLY DO SHOOT EMSELVES IN THE FOOT WITH RESTRICTIONS !
( THEY WANT MONEY THERE'S THE ANSWER ) THEY'D MAKE HEAPS PROBLEM SOLVED HUH !
LAND OF AUSSIE NO MATE I LIVED THERE IN EARLIER DAYS BEFORE THE CORRUPTION MADE MONEY EMERGE YOU KNOW - I SEEN A FEW RICH BUT GEE I HAD TO LOOK HARD FOR EM BUT REMEMBER 65% MY DAYS THERE IN FULL TIME LIVING WERE JANUARY 1999 TO DECEMBER 2001 = 30 MONTHS
IN THAT TIME I LIVED THERE EXACTLY 20 MONTHS AND NOT MUCH OF YEAR 2001 YOU KNOW .
HELL OF A DIFFERENT PLACE THEN MATE
TWAS NOT MONIES FLOATING IN THE STREET IN THOSE DAYS !! OF THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU SIR !
story from the past !
I suppose you could title it -------some people you just can't help !
About a chap i met through forum towards the end of 2006 , seemed a nice enough chap but was desperate for a pretty !
So i spoke to him private mail i said ok ''hop sing '' ( cant recall his asian name its to long ago and to many letters in it lol )
It went like this - you know the way they talk ! dohh!! ohhh i vant go WUSSIA MEET WUVLY !
Iam on the blower to it ! its rung me - i meet it yu boss at airport yaa !
I said alright ''hop sing '' il try find you a lovely ! tell me what you look like so i'l know you at airport ! then i thought hang on ------)) its straight outu the rice paddy '' be easy to spot ! but best i get to IT FIRST ! before the militia makes a corruption feed out of him !
To polkova 2 i go - in came CLOG AIRWAYS - KLM FLIGHT i wait and wait and wait - finaly it emerges ( i thought my god its a midget ))) he was all of 5 foot 2 ! had a set of choppers on him big enough to cut his way out of Levenworth state pen !
I thought to myself --jeses i know a few tarts but i dunno about this bloke, i rang veronica my best mate good sort i said listen my love we have it problem ! me have small dark problem ! come meet us in prospect this address i need your help find this leprechaun a buddy .
Hop sing was carrying on like a ''pork chop'' first time in mother russia he was all excited - but green as grass ( thought a football coach had 4 wheels ) he produced from his smelly little bag some what appeared to be old 60's postcards of Russia !!
He was not expecting anything modern ! so veronica turns up 28 176 cm lovely blonde speaks perfect english and Hop sink was in the ''little house '' she said where is it? i replied its in strangeling a lizard !! it will be out soon !
Out emerges the wee one dohh huwwo luvly de boss he bring you for me yeah!!! i interupted no hoppy thats one of mine ''home gaurd you know no touch ! ohh what bout me he screamed ! i said listen youv'e only been hear 45 minutes give us a chance to work on it !
Veronica said to me Darling ''it very dark '' yes i know i said best we dont get them to turn the lights up hmm !
Look at those choppers she said ??? ohh darling i don't know we find him girl - we need girl bad sight of eyes !
I replied i know darling its a tough one iam sorry ive brought you a problem !
Anyway we ordered up a feed in the meantime veronica getting the quiz from hoppy on russia !!
Driving her absolutely up the wall !AND WITH IT SHE'S TRYING TO BE A GOOD HOST AND FRANTICALY FIND A BIRD IN HER MESSAGE BANK THAT COULD KEEP HOPPY COMPANY !
She rung one but after a description the women did not know weather she was going to be ''laid or eaten ''so she said il come for dinner we go from there ok !
20 minutes later up turns yuliy - lovely sort red headed piece - had one gander at hoppy and made an excuse she was crook had to go home !
By this time hoppy still aint quiet twigged that he was ugliest little ''nasty to ever emerge from a vietnam rice paddy ''and his attitude after 4 grogs had slipped badly resulting in him grabbing 1 waitress on the ass as she passed by .
This infuriated me and with i leaned my large frame across the table grabbing his colar with both hands in true gangster style ! growled at him and at this point i was indeed wondering weather a good old fashioned 30's style bevy of gangster slaps across the chops would correct the situation !
But after a dressing down i decided against it - i did drag it to the servery and have it appolgise to the 19 year old lovely carrying the tucker that he'd so joyfully grabbed on the arss !
Telling him upon his next mistake il be stubbing out my corona on his balls ! with this he seemed to take stock of the fact that he was making a total ass of himself .
He settled for a short time, as fate would have it a young bird in amongst the customers appeared to take a shine to im (* who says there aint no desperates in Russia )
She made herself welcome they moved to another table ( thank god ) she entained him asking veronica to translate certain parts of the conversation .
One question the young bird asked hoppy was what do you do for a job ! i looked to veronica i said well we cant actually say he works on daddies farm ''rice farm ! i told her tell the young bird hoppy works in a sports store ! so she did.
Next question came --what you do in sports store ? veronica job of transalate again - i told her tell the young bird he restrings tennis rackets ( that way it covers the big choppers ) so that wording was forwarded she asked no more ------to this day weather the young bird twigged as to what i meant about the choppers i will never know .
Anyway the night wore on and hoppy had become rather touchy feely with the young bird i could tell she was looking at us more than him and becoming a tad disturbed. as he tried repeatedly to run his dirty yellow claws up her skirt, and he started stroking her hair like she was a dog !
ohh he said me take home daddy him like you !
I could see the situation worsening with every Tyborg so i thought i better get this little deviot home ( in 2006 i still owned apartment in st peters ) so you know i tried to defuse it but this mental giant just kept on putting the ''very hard word'' on the young bird.
We alighted from the restaurant and grabbed a taxi to my apartment - the young bird came to but the conversation in the taxi i near died laughing here was hoppy telling the young bird all about the ranch in vietnam ( iam sure she could not understand a word but hear he was saying ohh me farm
Aussieman,
It is not rare or very difficult for a single Russian lady to get a visitors visa to Britain providing she has a decent job and can provide proof of relationship with a British man. In fact it is quite easy.
Everything you say is negative. At least try to get your facts correct. What do you know about Britain?