Land of OZ...thank you for the comment on my previous post on a road trip.
That brings up the question of where I can get train tickets. Should I get them online or just get them when I am there? How much from Kiev to Odessa. Then from there....to Mariupol?
Now....dun dun dun...the casting couch! (Please refer to the movie Waking Life for the format in which this will be filmed)
I would like to meet a lot of girls in the hopes of finding the one for me. Additionally I would like to document some of this on film. The only idea that I could come up with is to invite a lot of girls back to my place and chat with them on the couch while filming it.
Doing this in public in a foreign country is probably not the smartest thing to do. So how would I setup a bunch of dates and invite girls back to my place for a sincere talk in front of the camera?
Maybe there is a place in Odessa? As much as everyone seems to dislike Anastasia...maybe I could walk into their office. Invite 20 girls and just stay there and talk to the girls that show up.
http://www.seat61.com/Ukraine2.htm#Train%20times will let you search trains. I usually buy the tickets at the train station. In mid winter I think you will have no problem with lack of space on the train. I always want the quickest train and do not know in advance how airplane, bus transfer schedules will go so when I get to the station I get a ticket for the next available train. There are several each day.
If you land at kbp first change some money into Hrevnas, walk out the doors and on the right side of the parking lot will be some buses, most end up at the train station (look for the word вокзал on the bus). Last time I was there it was 25 hrevna ($5) to go to the train station about a half hour ride. Taxi drivers at the airport will take you for $40 if you jew them.
There are difficulties. First finding the right window to buy the ticket, next to be able to ask for the ticket, and then being able to read and understand your ticket so you can find your seat on your train.
Here is a copy of a train ticket translated http://forum.fiance.com/images/users/4430/train%20tickets1.gif
nuerotic,
If you think these ladies are that desperate to be with you that they will come back to your place to have your interviewing of them on film then you really do need to get out more!
'Sixty is the worst age to be,' said the 60-year-old man. 'You always feel
like you have to pee and most of the time you stand there and nothing comes
out.'
'Ah, that's nothin,' said the 70-year-old. 'When you're seventy, you don't
have a bowel movement any more. You take laxatives, eat bran, sit on the
toilet all day and nothin' comes out!'
'Actually,' said the 80-year -old, 'Eighty is the worst age of all.'
'Do you have trouble peeing, too?' asked the 60-year old.
'No, I pee every morning at 6:00. I pee like a racehorse on a flat rock; no
problem at all.'
'So, do you have a problem with your bowel movement?'
'No, I have one every morning at 6:30.'
Exasperated, the 60-year-old said, 'You pee every morning at 6:00 and crap
every morning at 6:30. So what's so bad about being 80?'
so true ay nasfan lol il have to post a few more lol lol
i think its time we all left the ''gladiators pen'' had a bit of a laugh ay lol
have a good day
mikeoo
ps you know though i used to show a book of 190 of these jokes to russians in Russia you never get a smile or a giggle they got no idea of fun how to have a joke iots all dead serious ohh woe is us !
jese don't you wish they would unsaddle the sympathy elephant just for a day ay .
ohh woe is us we all hard done by
must say i could never have a laugh there - all they worried about was money . tucker , who had more than the next bloke they really do miss life huh .
even the music is drab all about some hard done by -down on thier luck
hell if you took KISS there for a big concert iam sure they would first deliver to em a bag of begging letters for $$$
and 10,000 sad stories about daddy throwing the family
Kiss --- would be in total depression before they fired up the guitars
All glum '' from gullivers travels !!!!
they got absolutely no idea how to have a laugh
sad but true .
mARTIN THEY ARE SO SO SO DESPERATE --LIVE THERE YOU SEE IT THE GUY IS RIGHT SORRY YOU GOT RUSSIA AND UKRAINE NOW 12 MILLION TARTS UNDER 35 ALL ON THE BEG FOR A BLOKE ----------ITS ON THE INCREASE AS TIMES GET HARDER
DESPERATE -------THATS AN UNDERSTATEMENT !!!!! 12 MILLION TO 1 - HOW MANY OF US GO THERE WORLDWIDE EACH YEAR blokes seeking a girl i mean purely that reason
hmm lets guess 15.000 maybe 20,000 lets be real generous say 23k of men
12 million birds on the beg
man thats desperate --thats real desperate !
deduct all the beggars
deduct all the forrest gumps
deduct all the holiday blokes saved 7k up over 2 years
of that 23k at most
how many yu got left !!!!!! simple maths mate - at the end of the day if they real lucky they have what 12,000 guys choose from gee we outnumnbered around 15.000 to one is it !!
i see the stats - nothing wrong with my eyes ---balls are ALL IN OUR COURT !.
GO ON THE GOVVY STATS SITES australia / usa / new zed / pommy land / and a few of those countries where the men aint worth having ------and you will a remarkable decline in men going to FSU
EVERYBODY SICK OF THE HEAD CASES / THE WROUGHTS ! AGENCIES DONT DO TOURISM ANY GOOD GIMMY YU MONEY -THEY SHOULD BE JAILED !
ITS ALL SLOWING DOWN YOU KNOW NOT BEING NEGATIVE IAM JUST TELLING IT EXACTLY HOW IT IS --THE GUYS WAKING UP 200 PLUS COUNTRIES YOU CAN GO ----------MUCVH BETTER DEALS IN THE ''HONESTY STAKES '' ARE EMERGING FROM OTHER LOCATIONS --THEY ALL A TAD CROOKED
BUT THERE CLEANER DIRTY SHIRTS TO CHOOSE FROM
DOMINICA IS 1
Caymen islands ( tart i had there years ago turn yu inside out - no scam !)
SOUTH AMERICA 2
VIETNAM 3
More offerings on the plate ---these birds been to cheeky for too long its about time they pulled there heads in a bit -and woke up that Russia ukraine aint the only two places in the world
check out lithuania - far better deals there too
poland same
LOTS MORE STEAK ON THE PLATE - ITS JUST BEEN HIDDEN UNDER THE CABBAGE LEAVES
Now...unfortunately you guys missed the mark on the film I would like to make. Oh well...I guess no one here is into documentaries or has even seen the film Waking Life.
easy do a film in russia mate - you do it on russian lifestyle ( i mean who's ever seen it )
It has always had me wondering why nobody has gone over and done a dvd lifestyle on russia?
nothing on cable or tv about it --only the odd bit on scammers etc which is negative !
Hang on just thought of something hmm - ohh no its ok just memory lapse i just remembered they do know what a dvd is in russia !!! - i think they found out 18 months back ''whew '' i was worried there for a minute ( fogetting tis the land of cassette tapes and technology akin to 78 records) - aka 1959 - Blue moon lol lol ))))))
always worries me when iam living in russia the things we take for granted
my big camera battery dies ( panic mode --where can i buy a battery in russian city ?? this is going to be fun ???)
ohh panic mode - need pack panadol guess what the first 10 you ask -- nobody knows what panadol is??????
hear we are again i think !!-----------living in bedrock with the flintstones !!
you know what beat me in Russia and ive NEVER BEATEN THIS - TRY BUY A CIGAR IN RUSSIA sorry i failed miserably to find a cigar in Russia since i first set foot in the joint 14th january 1999 ----------i have NEVER EVER found a joint in russia where i could buy a cigar .
I gave up in the end ! lol truly it beat me !
the unseen russia sex / graft / mafia ahh yes its risky ( so is J walking huh ) you gotu die of something!
mate id love do a film in russia certainly know my way round - but i dare say it will never happen --as you need to take somebody with you to do it !
mate on your own you'd end up meat for mafia and corrupt ! you would last about 4 days .
No bird to hold your hand!!!! - nup sorry - that means nothing to keep you safe = it wont work --they spin you around like a man with a blindfold and rob you for all your worth.
easy to do any business in russia -----------long as your with a russian .
if not = forget it mate its too hard .
So I go to the doctors because my eyesight's been getting bad lately.
Nice young lady doctor sits me in a chair and half way thro the examination she says:-
"you'll have to stop masturbating"
"why because of my eyesight"?
"No...because I'm trying to examine you"
Guy wakes up after a night of heavy hammering (on the piss for my Brit friends) looks at his dick and sees two rings around it. One red one brown. He says Oh shit! I need to go to the Doc. Well he goes to the doc and the Doctor examines him and says give me 15 minutes I will be back in with the results.
The Doc comes back and says Well I have have some good news and some bad. Well the guy says, give me the good news first, Well the Doc says the red ring is lipstick. Big relief comes over the guy then he asks, Well whats the bad news doc? Well son, the second ring is Skoal.
Next time you think your hotel bill is too high you might want to consider
this...
A husband and wife are travelling by car from Key West to Boston .
After almost twenty-four hours on the road, they're too tired to continue
and decide to stop for a rest.
They stop at a nice hotel and take a room but they only plan to sleep for
four hours and then get back on the road. When they check out, four hours
later, the desk clerk hands them bill for $350.
The man explodes and demands to know why the charge is so high. He tells the
clerk although it's a nice hotel; the rooms certainly aren't worth $350.
When the clerk tells him $350 is the standard rate, the man insists on
speaking to the Manager.
The Manager appears, listens to the man and then explains that the hotel has
an Olympic-sized pool and a huge conference center that were available for
the husband and wife to use.
But we didn't use them,' the man complains.
'Well, they are here, and you could have,' explains the Manager. He goes on
to explain they could have taken in one of the shows for which the hotel is
famous. 'The best entertainers from New York , Hollywood and Las Vegas
perform here,' the Manager says.
'But we didn't go to any of those shows,' complains the man again.
'Well, we have them and you could have,' the Manager replies.
No matter what facility the Manager mentions, the man replies, 'But we
didn't use it!'
The Manager is unmoved and eventually the man gives up and agrees to pay.
He writes a check and gives it to the Manager.
The Manager is surprised when he looks at the check.
'But Sir,' he says, this check is only made out for $50.'
'That's correct,' says the man. 'I charged you $300 for sleeping with my
wife.'
'But I didn't!' exclaims the Manager.
'Well, too bad,' the man replies. 'She was here and you could have.'
You appear to be a few years out of touch of how things are in Ukraine.
Since, a few years back, and for the majority of westerners, Ukraine dropped any visa requirement Ukraine has been invaded by very many guys, very many of them too bone idle to apply for a visa to go elsewhere in FSU, and literally a lady can shake a tree and a bunch of guys will fall out of it.
These guys seem not to understand that they have made it in to a Ukraine ladies market, as each guy comes along she can merely 'window shop' and let him go because she knows that there will be another one along in a day, a week or so.
And I do know what I'm talking about in this respect, best friend in Ukraine owns a dating agency, when visa's were required her agency was struggling to exist, now she has perhaps 4 or 5 staff occuping several hours each day translating correspondences and still they can't keep up with the number of letters coming in, and these might be letters that guys are paying $5 a time to write!
And, of all those agency ladies, quite a few of them friends, I can only think of one or two that might degrade themself to being interviewed whilst being recorded ..... because they are so desperate having no personality, aged looks etc. etc. etc. and no guy would look at them otherwise.
well i dont know about that my aussie mate i speak with each 3 days lives in POLTAVA has been for 2 years now he has nyet reason speak me a fib but he has stated clearly that all westerners that materialised in POLTAVA IN 2008 he could have shoved the lot into a phone box and still had room for him to get in .
no he tells me mr westerner is fast becoming extinct in ( his part of ukraine! )
i can believe there be a quiet a few in kiev but i mean you know thats the slime pit the ''kings cross'' if you like ---------everybody knows its famous for slime therefore its a beaten path and of course yu'd expect it to boast a few 100 forest gumps
the smart ones go to kiev = derrr frontal labodomy chaps -- that think the entirety of unraine stats at city limits and ends at the other end of the city .
but poltava no definately not seeing a hide or hair of a westerner !
kiev ive not visited and from acres of info i dont want to go there - no thankyou maaaam !! anywhere in russia or ukraine where they have the plastic fabricated ohh lets be westies attitudes sorry you wont find me in that town!! millions mobiles cars etc nup nup not for me i like the land that time forgot = then youre the boss you know !
the villages you know --iam all for hippy lifestyle .
where the only car they have is one that dad drew in 1950 as a drawing contest !
sorry mate as well off as iam --you wont sell me anything modern i despise it sorry
kevin rudd could not pay me $1000 a week free rest of my days to live in a place trying to keep up with the west - he'l never have enough money to do that for this duck !!!
any hint of westernisation i dont want to know about!!!! id be on the first bus out truly , iam trying to get away from all that crap...
thats the false world !
Mike,
Just read this forum, compared to the number of guys that talk of travelling to Ukraine how many guys talk of travelling to Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, even Russia etc. etc. etc?
The proof is here in this forum, quite a few guys seem to be considering Moldova but guess what? Moldova too has relaxed it's visa requirement also!
Martin just viewing your post again i went done some book work i thought narr this aint correct as martin has it hear -in my years living in Russia ( st peters ) no iam sorry ! westerners were always in ''short supply ''.
I cant honestly say that in 1 --20 month stretch that i opened my apartment window with my wife and seen westerners 10 deep on the street -let alone falling out of trees ,
I was a full 4 months russia december 2006 through 2007 my god i reackon i was near dying of lonelyness to try and find -a westerner to talk too.
Rostov you wont find a 1 --kazan you'd be dead lucky , volgograd you'd find the odd one but by god you'd be battling.
And lets face it - most dont want to be found ( westerners ) i mean 1 westy sees another both 16 stone fatties aged in late 50's with a 20 year old !! ohh you know
god !! what if maa!! back in the states could see me now !!
God iam shaftin a bird younger than muh sister - gee isa good !
you know martin --ive always had a huge task to find westerners there in Russia .
I cant speak for ukraine i dont know it - and from what i can see there is barely tuppence difference anyway----------to me its the ''poor cousin '' you know .
Desperate land ! again i can go on what iam told of ukraine !
personaly if i did not have a good mate living there i could not see myself bothering to visit ukraine - il stick with Russia .
better the devil you know huh !
I never forget in st peters long long ago i was walking home ay came across a yank hmm about 48 i spose and his usa wife with him -i had to look at his clothing to pick him and i pulled him in the street said ''how yu goin mate '' well he near kissed me said thank god somebody from civilisation !! ohh glad to meet yu -hey he said you visiting or do yu live hear !!
i said i live hear !!
good he replied can yu tell me where i can dump this fat bitch wife of mine so i can get some breathing space head out in this lolly ranch and play up a bit !
I took his wife back to my wife got her to keep yanky bird busy for 4 or 5 hours whilst he headed chasing crumpet = so much for loyalty huh lol lol .
he said later ''thanks mate '' ive learnt something ''never bring the ole tart to a heifer paddock like this ! he was happy !
to answer your writings martin - no outside of moscow no ive never encountered no great amount of westerners the years i lived permanent in those 20 months of that stint i met a grand total from memory of around 12 westerners 3 were aussies the rest poms mostly few yanks --but then as a rule i was not roaming the streets looking for em either .
Seen militia hassling a few 600 / 700 yards away a few times but when thats happening you dont run up and offer aide or your liable get hassled yourself you know .
I dont go out martin iam not a socialiser --iam not a mixer - iam a lone wolf - nobody get me into a social circle - unless i want to be in it --------and truly i dont want to be in such things .
I dont go clubs / discos / places that absorb thousands - iam a ''flat rat '' ive no interest roaming streets .
I basicaly dont go anywhere of any risk, robbery , drugs . drunks ./ bars full of memory swillers not my style at all - actually i despise it .
I take huge pride in being a lone wolf - i dont do tourist thing - i study 65 hours a week minimum . write . do my work , apart from lovely crumpet to keep you company the rest of life dont interest me .
And i mean why would you bother going out in russia we cant speak enough langauge to make a difference to anything - i dont go there to go out - i go there because i can become lost you know get away from all the western bullshit ''correctness in life '' i dont want to go looking for over there - what ive just flown 12.000 ks to get away from hear !
Iam left in peace there to do my work --you cant do that hear in aussie your surrounded by accountablity shitheads / coppers / do - wells charities on the phone / indians rigning up trying to sell you somrething - the faults of australia x 10.000
What a dump it is hear ! pay bills till you die - your surrounded by critics i mean who needs any of it?-------in russia i dont have any of that crap - i dont have to talk to anybody .
In russia iam accountable to absolutely nobody and believe me for that privilidge id happy take an income cut of 50k a year to keep it that way .
They can stick the west where the sun dont shine -and they can stick it sideways too
Mike,
You say barely tuppence difference, that's precisely the point, tuppence, and a little inconvenience, for a visa to Russia or a 'freebie', and bugger all effort, to Ukraine!