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Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 12:20:37 AM   Pathfinder, I have dated Russian and Ukraine women and have just ended a two year marriage to a Russian women. We all want the same as you... a loving wife that looks nice and embraces the "marriage" principles we all are seeking on this forum. However, European women (Russian,Ukraine)are basically the same as American women with two differences (very generalized here) that interest us. 1) They dress nicer and take more pride in their physical looks. 2) They "generally" always want a man their age or slightly older. Caution... they learn fast and will quickly "leave you in the dust" if you don't posess the "qualities" they search for. This could be; money, nice home, loving relationship, harmony in marriage, or just excitement. Each are different. Stay away from any agency girls (I know their pictures look nicer - Photoshop) and try to target the dating sites where you get their personal email address... and talk directly to them. Don't look for the fairy tale princess but set your sites on someone that shares your interests and life goals... I continue to search in Europe... it's the thrill of the chase and the excitement of the unknown that drive me. gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 12:44:03 AM   my advice is to marry a good woman. maybe sacrifice looks a little for good personality and character. I don't know why your wife cheated on you. usually the cheating is a symptom of another problem. cure that first. if your going to ukraine to find a faithful woman, your going in the wrong direction. Ukrainian women will eat a 'nice' guy for lunch. why would you think a culture void of religion for 80 years would produce a culture of generosity and goodness. Your kidding yourself. sorry, but I've spent over 50 grand trying to find a good ukranian woman, i'm not a bad looking guy, same age as you now, i'm still looking but I realize the deck is stacked against foreigners. there something you should know thats not opinion and just patent fact. 98% of ukranian girls don't want to leave. the good looking girls lead a good life there. if you want a submissive wife, i would say your best bet would be phillipines or china, maybe thailand. the divorce rate in ukraine is almost 50% for the record, i was married to a belarussian girl for 5 years. oh, and heres my advice. find a way to live in ukraine. but not as a loser tourist. but as a business owner. I spent one summer in kherson working with programmers. Some other people are english teachers. I think thats a good idea. Personally, i am thinking about opening a teaching school in a city in ukraine starting next summer. I will probably do it if i find a partner. would not do it alone. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 7:32:58 PM   "98% of ukranian girls don't want to leave" I don't know how accurate that figure is. A girl will leave IF she thinks you are the right guy for her....... her other half as they say. If you are not the right guy, better have a lot going for you to get girl to leave. Also a girl that leaves for financial reasons will not stay with you. Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 8:02:25 PM   why would you think a culture void of religion for 80 years would produce a culture of generosity and goodness. Wow! That sentence speaks volumes! peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 8:11:49 PM   i will agree that most girls here in ukraine don't want to leave. i moved here just over a week ago to be with my gf. you will have a much better chance here if you want to move here and not try to get a girl to move back with you. girls here do seem to be very loyal and caring so long as you are and the younger girls at least (20's) do prefer an older guy. i am 36 and olya is 23. /pete Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2008 8:16:45 AM   LOL, Gecko makes a few very valid points. Pathfinder Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/30/2008 3:49:28 AM   My biggest problem is that I seem to be attracted to the younger gals out there. My Wife of five years is 24 years old and I just turned 40. I have taught Martial Arts since I was 16 years old and am told I look like I am 30 or so. I don't want to live in Ukraine but I wouldn't mind visiting. There is A.F.A that has tours but that seems like a gimmick to me. A good possibility I could go over to visit some others in my company, we have branches everywhere. Just some thoughts. How much would I need to go over and spend two weeks there? What does everyone consider the best places to go and why? I am not against Asians or Europeans so either way works. Pathfinder Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2008 3:34:58 AM   Soon to be ex wife, she cheated on me and decided she wanted to be free. I would have overlloked it but she doesn't want to work it out. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2008 3:33:48 PM   IMO a 16 year age gap is too big. What the hell did you ever talk about? Sure sex is great with a young body, but once you've done it a thousand times, nothing beats love and real connection. The post gecko made about religion is something I've been thinking about for a long time now. "why would you think a culture void of religion for 80 years would produce a culture of generosity and goodness" It doesn't...how could it? The stuff the marriage agencies and dating sites and even the girls themselves spout about love and finding their soulmate is just a croc. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2008 7:26:25 PM   You need to find a wife first! Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2008 7:02:10 AM   He needs someone that can keep the lies straight and is willing to marry him. ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2008 2:07:04 PM   Ok my opinion only. Like in America, you get what you go after, maybe not so bad. A 40 going after a 25 year old will get just that, a kid. That kid will leave after she gets bored. Besides, what will you really have in common? Not only having a cultural gap but a generation gap as well. Plus realize, a 25 year old woman has MANY options. A 33+ year old, not as many. Many men want the young stuff and the somewhat older stuff gets second fiddle. An older woman I would think would have more in common with you, realize that she has a good thing after living her 20s obviously unfullfilled, and more likely to be ready to settle down. Fact, Ukrainian woman friggin destroy most American women in looks. All but the prettiest in American cities wouldnt even kind of turn heads in Kyiv compared to the locals. Take one of them here and you have every doctor, lawyer and professional wanting her for arm candy. So you better make sure she knows you arent Daddy Warbucks. I mean, state it in every damn letter you write that you arent wealthy. Make sure there is no misunderstanding. Then if she still talks the talk, you have some idea its not for your bank account. My opinion, stay DAMN clear of Kyiv and Odessa and any large city. Try to hit the 300k or less population cities. Women in the big cities are used to the foreign tourist with the big bucks. Plus if shes pretty, odds seriously are that shes partaking in part time prostitution for income augmentation. Dont doubt, in Europe prostitution is not the frowned upon and horrid thing it is here in America. Seriously. I would just think a 33+ woman would be more your speed. I know it is mine. If they are younger than 30, I dont talk to them. Nothing there. Sure you have a pretty woman but we all know looks fade and you have to have more than just physical attraction. Also remember this and I learned this from a Russian woman living in America. In Russia/Ukraine, if a woman has children, even just one, odds of her ever finding a local man are slim to none. I know some American men are shy of kids but what American woman that you are going to meet 30+ wouldnt have kids? Those women with kids damn near spend every weekend sitting at home or at least dateless. Those women are hungry for attention and will appreciate a man. Fact is 25 yr old woman has many options period. Playing the international dating game is tough enough. Why do it when you know they have huge options? Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2008 2:56:12 PM   nbfb Best and most accurate Post on here for a LONGGGGGGGGGG time So pathfinder - you going that same Path again - same result at end I would predict !! devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2008 3:31:06 PM   I think you can pretty much discount finding a single childless beautiful woman under 25 who is seriously after marrying a foreign 40+ man, and those that are will be after your bank account/house/passport. Women in their late 20's/ early 30's with a child in tow probably are more serious about relocating BUT many of them still have a ruthless streak and will bin you in a second if a better deal comes along as I found out to my cost. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2008 7:41:27 AM   Quote: “Try to hit the 300k or less population cities.” ndfb: Some valid points in your post but I challenge the validity of the above. What’s the general basis for this argument? Usually, something like, she is more down to earth and better wife material. Decoded, more desperate and hopefully more inclined to stay with the punter because of her huge trade up in lifestyle. The reality is she will become familiar with her new environment soon enough and develop all the same expectations as other women regardless of where she comes from. There is good and bad women in both major and provincial cities. The challenge is to find the best woman for you regardless of where she comes from. Her home location when you are searching should be the least consideration other than it is a bonus if it is somewhere you enjoy visiting because if you marry her you will be visiting again and again. Mrs and I live in a smaller city but travelling halfway around the world to spend several weeks each year in Someburg wouldn’t exactly appeal. She will adapt to a smaller city better if she comes from a smaller city is a theory I see put forward often and I once subscribed to it also but blew it to pieces with Mrs, a woman who spent half her life in a city of 1.5 million and a lot of time in one of 13 million. She has adapted to small city life with enthusiasm, dignity and style. As for the morality and ethics of Eastern women/people, yes it is a different world in general and seemingly the Puritans never made it much East of Berlin, but again, one brush is too broad to paint with and it comes down to sifting through the silt to find a grain of gold. The age debate will go on and on as long as there is discussion of any sort on this subject. I have a so far so good age gap marriage and I wouldn’t want anyone other than Mrs anywhere near me, but I also think western punters should consider the implications very seriously. She is a young woman and at times a total pain in the arse. Our mutual love was/is one thing and I have never doubted, in fact I continue to be amazed at the depth of love Mrs bestows on me, but the pragmatic side compelled me to carefully consider whether or not it actually could/would work. The answer remains a work in progress but the facts which eventually swung my thinking were her “Can Do, Never Say Die” attitude and her ability to continue to bestow/display love in the face of heated disagreement. I’ve been very fortunate, perhaps spoiled and I hope others searching could be so lucky. I think searching out the very best woman without much attention to location, age or hair colour is the safest route to travel. Sir_Danny_Boy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2008 10:46:23 AM   Ndfb, A very good post I thought. My story in brief is….. Joined Globaladies last June, corresponded to 3 women all in their 20’s , I am a 30 year old looking 45 year old. In July last year I made my first ever trip to Ukraine, I met only 1 of the 3 women, in Kherson, she was cold on our date, the other 2 were somehow “busy” even though we’d agreed to meet. This June I tried again, joined a new site – TAU2 – corresponded again to 3 different girls, all in their 20’s, met 2 in Kiev, lovely, but no chemistry, at least not from my end, travelled on to Rovno (Rivne) and met the 3rd girl, 28, 1 small boy, 5” 9`and slim, beautiful to look at and very sexy, lives with her parents and brother in a 2 bed flat (parents sleep on sofa bed in living room) She works long hours in her local supermarket. Since we met I have been back to her a further 3 times, I return again on 14th of this month until Jan 7th, just after Ukraine Christmas. Her parents, having met me and spent time with me on my previous trips invited me to stay at their home, I slept in my woman’s brothers bedroom and he slept on a sofa bed, the same arrangement again when I go soon. She has internet at home and almost every evening her, her family and me see and talk to each other for free on Skype. We get engaged on the 17th and I have a reasonably priced ring for her I just bought from Argos. We love each other, her family have said they love me too, including her boy. She asks me for nothing. I tell this story because I agree with you in principle, ie – stay away from the big cities and look for your girl in the towns, and beware the younger girls, I do also think it comes down to the age old thing that, quite simply, every person/couple is different. I guess I am an attractive guy with a reasonably ok body, but I’m no Clooney, and I’m not loaded, I know I could never even get a girl that looks like mine to even look in my direction here in the UK, much less win her heart but, it appears that in Ukraine, with perseverance and determination, and with the mindset that I will never again date a Western woman, I, against all the odds, have achieved what I set out to, what I’ve dreamed of having, a beautiful, intelligent, very sexy young wife-to-be who has fallen madly in love with me, but, not only this, her boy, and her family adore me also, as I do them. For those that continue their search I say, keep at it, it could just be a numbers game, the more you try, the more you go, the more you learn, the more women you meet, eventually you may just succeed. But, also heed the advice of “those that have gone before” !! Just my 10 pence worth, regards. Pathfinder Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2008 12:43:28 PM   I love children so that is a good option. Also, I think I will forget the dating sites and just go. I will spend some time in a few cities and turn it into a business trip. I will also spend some free time looking around and meeting people. This way I can travel to the Asian cities as well. Sir Danny Boy, thank you for that story. NDFB, a very good post and some things to think about. A number of years ago I had a business partner in Russia that was great. I wouldn't mind going and training in Russia again with him and a few others so many different avenues I can take. I am also able to travel and teach at a few Martial Arts places around those cities so it will be an easy process either way. I think the advice I was given is great for the most part, and instead of "looking for love" I will just let it happen. Also, I am considering some dental work at Bumrungrad Hospital so the Thai market is also there. I think over the next few years I will travel to at least two cities a year. Any input on where and any connections that I should make or avoid would be a great start. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2008 3:24:10 PM   ndfb What a crock. I have a 29 yr age gap, she is very good looking, Im not, we get along well (Im not senile yet) I met her in Kiev which is a city I love, There are plenty of older divorced desparate women with kids wherever you are so why go looking in FSU when they can be found anywhere. Only thing I agree is that a pretty Ukrainian girl will spit out the wimp Amercan husband on landing and move up in the world on arrival. ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2008 5:45:34 PM   GeminiDreams, Congrats you won the lottery. Having a beautiful woman with a 29 year age difference is damn near unique. Especially if you have been together for any length of time. And even more so if you arent wealthy. If all of this is correct, then it appears you have an exceptional woman. But I wouldnt bet on that for the next guy however. Sure you can sleepwalk in downtown Chicago one night and wake up safely in your bed but I wouldnt bet on it for the next dude. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > A Question for those who have gone before
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