i am a 56 yr. old man . fit, in good shape and considered to be good looking. i would like to join an eastern european dating site, but when reading profiles of women see that they expect man to be hard working and solvent. i have my own house , car, no debt. i have pension of 23 k (gbp) a year and substantial savings. could anybody tell me if i would meet criterioa for russian women or do i have to go back to work firs?.
I depends a lot on what your after. You want a stunning 22 year old then your going to have to be well off no matter what your age. I would think if your realistic and aimed for a women in her early 40's that you would find someone really nice. There are lots of stunning women in their early 40s on most of the sites who probably get very little interest.
Lyndos: A very limited number of Russian Women will understand “Self Funded” retirement. I don’t believe it is possible to put a $ figure on what you need but it is important to understand this is not a cheap exercise. Were you married before? What did it cost you to keep yourselves then? Think in terms of that X 150% and you won’t be far wide of the mark. Think in terms of a substantial outlay in the “Search and Rescue” stage. I wouldn’t care to guess what that cost me but something in the order of 20-50K USD over and above what it might have done had she been a local woman. BTW, that was quite a while ago. I’ve always thought you don’t need to be wealthy for this but you need to be on firm ground financially.
23k might just about cut it if you do your sums right and the 23k is in your pocket and not top line per year. Might have to start selling off some of the assets as the years go by.
I have my own house, car and very little debt. I earn a little more than 2k per month in my hand after I pay off bills if that's anything to go by and I'm not doing it any more.
Consider this:- if you hook up with a little lady from fsu it's going to cost you in trips. If you're not working you can afford the time to go as many times as you wish...but can you afford the boat ride as many times as you wish?
Assuming you get to the point where you're going to marry her you'll then need to provide her with one or two trips to your own country.
Then the wedding...that's a biggy if you want it to be a dream one. Think of all the vodka the family will be drinking.
If you get married to a hottie under thirty you'll then have the alimony to think about as soon as she gets her green card.
Anyone over thirty is bound to have a child. Recent estimates are £80,000 to raise one in UK from bith until 16.
Did anyone mention an economic crisis? Are you guaranteed your 23K a year?
The best thing to do is plan your trip add up the costs of one trip, include all contingencies, like insurance, medical, exchange rate (the pound has taken a beating against the dollar which is the currency mostly used for things like apartments) etc, and sundries such as gift money, bribe money, and when they bring out the menu for the western guy money.
Multiply that by the number of times you want to go per year and take that away from your 23K.
I got my trips down to 2K a pop by some frugality and juggling holiday dates against cheaper flights. (From UK)
I only ever went to Ukraine off my own back which is less hassle to get to.
Would not contemplate Russia unless it was an easy flight in to Moscow or St Petes. I went to St Petes on business twice but never had the expense or hassle and wouldn't like to do it on my own unless I was absolutely sure of having someone with me.
I took trips to Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Czech Rep,etc Unfortunately they have all been knocked on the head due to the clampdown on spending in my company.
I've seen both sides of the deal...the guys on their own struggling to watch what they're doing and always on guard. And the guys who don't have to worry about anything since they're with a guy who is on home turf and looking out for you.
In any of these countries if you're not with someone to guide you your easy meat. A westerner stands out and if you're passable looking the girls will start to show interest.
Next thing they must decide is whether you have money or not and whether or not to go in for the easy take.
Forget the remark from pnova; if she's a Russian girl and hasn't been with a westerner she's never seen a big cock.
It's the big wallet they're after.
"Forget the remark from pnova; if she's a Russian girl and hasn't been with a westerner she's never seen a big cock. It's the big wallet they're after."
lol! maybe they're after both!?!? if you intend living here i don't think it's so important (the money not the big cock!!!), but you'd better be ready to let her buy a lot of clothes, etc! i would say that olya's priorities when it comes to spending money are (in this order) rent for flat, food, cigarettes, clothes, anything else! which is good as it is mine too (with maybe beer for me replacing clothes! but still clothes for her... :-)
right now we can quite happily live on about 10,000grv a month i guess here in kiev, which is only about 850 quid in today's money. heck, even if it after tax 23k is pretty cool!
but... paying for flying to russia, etc, and staying there a few times will cost you a lot... maybe i was lucky only coming to visit the one time in the summer before moving here? plus of course a wedding will be expensive, but if you get married here it won't cost so much, nothing like back in blightey anyway.
and if you move here, the uk is very close and cheap to fly back to...
hey pete....only thing nice about getting married there is the expection of guests to give luxurious gifts, not sure if ukraine is same as moldova but in moldova at reception, you are handed microphone to 'announce' in front of everyone what you are giving, talk about being under pressure! Don't want to be known as a cheapskate!!!!!!!!!
hi beemer! i asked olya and she said they have the same tradition here, but not everyone does it. but... when her best friend got married last year they *didn't* do that and as a result she reckons she got much worse presents! so, in olya's words, "maybe not all russian traditions are silly then!" /pete
oh, boys, you are so funny. it's amazing that you think that a nice russian girl would really care about you. i'm sorry to disappoint you, but russian girls are not desperate to leave their country and, most surely, 99% of them would never marry an ugly ancient wanker. i assume that the girls, you are in touch with are just smart russian men who use you to get the money from them. What i would really recommend you to do, is to find a prostitute (doesn't matter where, in your home country and in eastern europe) and marry her. that will be pretty much the same what you can find on the web but it will be quicker and no money will be lost in vain ;-)
but... "russian girls are not desperate to leave their country" is pretty true i would say, certainly true here in ukraine, though i guess life is better here in kiev than in other parts of ukraine?
there seems to be a myth that its easier to find girls in the smaller cities.
i have lived one summer in kiev. and i have lived one summer in kherson, a city of c. 300,00
I can say I did not have much success in kherson.
there are some things to consider when living in a small town in ukraine:
not many people speak english
not many things to do
not many girls willing to be seen in public with a foreigner. (unless she has already lost her reputation.)
better stick to larger cities. I think donetsk would probably be good. it large enough where you can take out a girl without it getting back to her friends or boyfriends friends. yet remote enough where you might still be a novelty.
This is friggin ridiculous!!! Forget this foreign bride crap and stay single. You're not going to bring home a trophy wife or anything close to it. Isn't it absurd to look at your financial portfolio, things you have, appearance...and wonder if it's enough to satisfy a woman from Eastern Europe/FSU. Hello??? This isn't what love is about.