Colin it is always good to know your options. You dont want any surprises down the road.
At this time it would seem best for both of you to use the break to clear the mind. Try not to think too much about this situation.
I would spend some time with my family, have a few drinks with your mates and flirt with a few girls.
In a month or 2 you may see things differently than now. There is not really any hurry to make the next move.
thats good advice adman,but I rang yesterday and she said she would be back to here to work but not to me so that was that. I Said well lets go to marriage counselling and work through this you have problems with me you arnt telling me about. I ran around after you like a fool cooking cleaning and still never enough. Money wise she signed away all rights to my house etc I talked to a lawyer there but she was in Kyiv and price seemed crazy 100 euros a hr and no fixed price I could see that going out of hand. If I did something wrong I could say fine but I have asked so what was the problem am I so bad ?no she said u are perfect and hungup. When she was in hospital I took days off work and spent all day there bringing choclate things to eat flowers and the internet so she could send emails etc.
She would ring and say come spend time with me here which I did all day not something I like all day in a hospital. I bought her new things for the hospital but nothing was ever enough. When she went home I gave her money to buy things for friends etc. I have no hate for her for me I look at the good things she did she was good to me at different times and to my son but why dosnt she think of the good things I did as well? Or even talk
Because you see when she went home I said fine I help you here at home thats you lookout when I rang the other day she needed to pay for some bandages (her back is still healing from the operation)
which was 20 euros I sent 30 euros but this was from pity id do that for anyone. Talked with my sister today who really tried to befriend her , She said to wife why dont u get a job? Wife said Colin got me a job I dont want to start yet I have alot to think about. My sister said to mr if I owed money id take job earn some money I wouldnt expect anyone to pay for me.So that sort of puts it in perspective.
Received this message on facebook which disturbed me. Rang her and said it and she wont talk since.
алекс sent you a message. (no subject) "Asshole!You have the best woman in the world as your wife and you cant resolve her problems.You are not a man!The man who really loves his woman never leave her without support.She is very proud and never asks for help. Now she is looking for work to pay your meeting that she regrets now.And you just live your life and wait when she will come back to you.If you will not change your relation to her you lose her!"
says hes a 31 year old ukranian male I never heard of him
Colin: The keys to that message are, she is looking for “money” to pay “your meeting”. This woman is a “Head Case” and she is using all means, including friends trying to turn you into the same. At the bottom of this is another ploy to part you with money.
For someone who claims to be the big outdoorsman Danny how come you can't spell Winchester, which is commonly know in OZ and I bet you don't know what PADI is without a google search and why does your email trace come from Sofia Bulgaria, questions that makes one go hmmmmmmmmmmm?
Well for several days after ne had announced he was 'just' leaving Christmas Island in his floating vessel he was on this forum every day so one presumes his boat has internet access even in the middle of an ocean.
Colin..isn't it amazing looking back and realizing what was really happening. Hindsight is 20/20. It seemed you were a one-way relationship, you did everything while your girl just sat back and enjoyed the ride. You were in love and she was just riding along. It makes you wonder if you really knew this girl, I know it was a very short time after you met that you got married. I think there should be effort made from both sides of a relationship.
I don't know where you go fom here, even if she did come back, things will never be the same, you'll always wonder if or when this will happen again. I wish you good luck and goodspeed, whatever happens is for the best.
Colin, most folks don't make the best choice of who they are with...me included.
As soon as you get up off your knees, run from this. Get the divorce, shut her out and don't look back.
I had the same done to me.I asked why and got no answer. There is none, and nothing you can do will change that.
If you stop asking why all the time accept that she's gone and move on you'll feel a lot better in time....and wiser
Clinging to hope often increases suffering when things end.
I've seen really strong and determined people ruined by the fantasy of reconciliation when letting go would save their sanity.
Some guy from nowhere tells you to be a man and you keep telling yourself that you need to stand up for her...its time to stand up for yourself.
One thing I learned and its the most liberating experience you will have is to learn the truth.
But the truth as you see it. As soon as you see the truth...your truth...you'll be free.
I think beemers right in that a relationship where we are the one doing all the running is a big danger sign. When I read peteb's account of how his lady goes to what to use seem absurd lengths to save him money and puts herself our for him at any opportunity, I feel that this is how it should really be. This is benchmark behaviour that we should all be looking for. Having said that I'm as guilty as an anyone in being in a one sided relationship and kidding myself that this was OK, that I needed to do this to prove my worth somehow to her.
This ingratitude that these ladies display is a big red warning flag that we ignore at our peril. If you have someone who takes the smallest thing you do as sign of your regard for them then you know your onto a winner but sadly the opposite case: where nothing you do is enough, where flying thousands miles and spending a small fortune doesn't even get you a "thanks for comming all this way" is all too common.
Colin,
I was married to a Russian woman for 1.5 years. When she left (August 2007) I gave her an airplane ticket and enough money to re-establish herself in a business back home. We parted as friends and I went crazy without her until I started looking at (communication by email phone and personal meetings) other women and I slowly felt better after doing so. Around four months after she left I got an email message... she urgently needed to speak to me on the phone! I called her and after a minute of small talk she springs it on me how desperately she needed money to "grow her business" and was in danger of losing what she had already invested in it... bottom line she was broke and needed a cash infusion. Guess who she thought of first! (me). I refused to give her any more money and she hung up the phone on me. I haven't spoken to her since. I feel wonderful now (with her gone) but I still cherish the time we were together, however I'm meeting new girls all the time and I look forward to another "encounter" however long it lasts.
Bottom line... Colin be prepared for the phone or email message asking for a lot of money, it signals her last attempt to bleed you. Bite the bullet and tell her no and don't give in!
Nah not a scammer I believe she cared for me but not enough to make the move to here.
Everything was different for her no friends to call to see, no family.
I think of the good times and yes sometimes I get mad but Ill get over it in time.
She missed friends the most to immature to realise friends will move on with their lives they will
get married and nothing ever stays as it is. Maybe she will regret in time.
anyway good news I really tried hard to get a english speaking lawyer so contacted one translation school in her town maybe theyd know someone. And guess what one of guys in charge is a American and married to a girl from same region we talked for about 2 -3 hours on skype and his wife is a lawyer over there so all sorted. I was a bit dubious about some of the others I contacted especially when they ask for cash without having done anything. But basically she said send wife maybe 30 dollars or so a week at least she wont starve and shows you still care. Otherwise cut all contact for amonth then it will be into Jan if she loves you she will want to come back by then if not then at least you know.
Also for a divorce to go through quickly she must agree to it. So by then she will be calmed down enough to talk to me.
I think thats good advice although $30 isn't much, it fact i'm sure it costs just as much to send this amount. Certainly a good idea to wait before doing anything. As you say it wouldn't have been easy for her to move to your country and as you say she is too young to understand. Before she moves to your country she probably has all she wants and her friends are no doubt jealous and this would her feel special. Once she makes the move shes just a normal person. Before she moves no doubt she says and probably beleives she doesn't care where she lives as long as its with you bla bla. Of course shes too young to understand otherwise and guys seem to be blind to this. But you married her and you still have a responsibility to be patient. Trust me shes not the only FSU women to focus on the bad things and ignore the good things, you need thick skin. Its always a lot harder once she moves to your country than actually finding a good women in the first place. However it seems you were perpared for the challenge but still wasn't enough.
Its a good thing you have found a good lawyer in her town. You need to be in control but not the boss and still need to show you care.