I have been speaking to a woman from Romania who i have grown quite fond of. We talk of being together and eventually getting married. we have talked on email, IM, and phone for some time now. She wants to come visit and asked if i would pay for the ticket. She said the ticket would be 800.00 usd and said she would like me to pay for half. I am skeptical of being taken for my money and have told her this. she scanned a copy of her US visa and sent it to me as proof. I asked her how long she would be visiting for and she said as long as i would like. I thought there were terms to a visa allowing for travel for only so long? But i could be wrong because i am not sure of these things. It seem to me that the price of the ticket is a little low since a ticket for me to go there is at best about 950.00 and that is with 2 layovers. I was hoping the expertise and experiences of the persons on this website could help guide me a little bit. I really like this girl but I also like not getting swindled out of my money as well. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
you have never actually met her right? so go ahead and send her the money roman1. I mean, thats normal right? for people to ask for money whom they have never met? ...yeah, people do that all the time.
she's beautiful right? and you don't want to believe that you are being scammed, right? because that is the sort of things that happen to other people and not you!
so go ahead and send her the money. Its only $400 and thats a lot less than you buying a ticket to go see the scammer in person.
ok, two years and $5000.00 later....
after you get a little more street smarts, here is what would be the appropriate reply to someone you have not met asking you for money:
thats right, no reply. because as soon as someone asks you for money, take a deep breath and move on.
Romania has been in the European Union for 2 years now, Romania is a fairly poor country, although things have been on the up with the EU, and those that have wanted to leave, for whatever reason, have been free, many have, to leave to work, live, have romance etc. in more prosperous EU countries where they can travel to by surface transport or by short air flights.
It's 'funny' that she quotes you in USD, USD is a very old fashioned thing to say around Europe these days, they know precisely what the Euro is, it might not be their currency, but they all know what it is and even in non Euro countries they talk 'Euro', I've been to Romania several times, book a Romania hotel online and the price is often quoted in Euros, they don't talk in the 'dollar'.
And, bear in mind, precisely what is a USD to a European, the USD has been up and down like a whore's drawers just recently but any ticket out of Romania will be priced in Lei or Euro, furthermore, to talk of marriage to a guy she hasn't met might be seen that she is desperate to leave, all she has to do is get on a train and find a guy within the EU!
But, you can book and pay for her ticket online, just search book 'cheap tickets' or similar, I think 'Orbitz' is a USA site, you say she comes for as long as you like, if she gets an open return ticket that's going to cost a lot more than USD800 and, as we know, air fares vary from day to day so she cannot possibly say how much it will cost, particularly in USD because the Dollar/Lei/Euro today won't exchange at the identical rate as it will next week etc.
All in all I'd say it's a scam because to enter USA will will need to display sufficient funds to support herself for a stay, perhaps USD50-100 for each day of her stay, or she might be refused entry, where's that money going to come from?
Nope, insist that you book and pay for her ticket online, if she argues then she is a scammer, and stand your ground, a ticket is a ticket regardless if you book it or her, and if you never hear from her again then that proves a scammer.
Roman1: The visa will be a photo shopped fake. The story is nonsense. I’ve spent a lot of time in Romania and enjoy it though I do, it is not for the faint of heart and certainly not for the uninitiated. There is no question in my mind (For too many reasons to list here) that you have a scam in the making on your hands. If you have any reason to think she might be genuine, do as the previous poster suggested, insist on buying the ticket. She’ll scram in a flash after she argues the merits of her buying it and you refuse.
The thing you really need to get a grip on is this caper, be it Russia, Romania or anywhere in between does not involve “Order In” service, it is “Counter” service only. You front up on her patch.
Well here I go upsetting many of the pundits here. I have previously spent $400 on a dinner. You have probably invested a lot of time and some money in communications. Is it worth sendind $400 to find out how real this person is?
For some it is a large amount of money and some it is inconsequential. What is it worth to you? There areother ways such as booking the flight yourself rather than sending money.
It is probably a scam but what is it worth for you to find out?
Gemini: Would you pay a buck for a can of coke (Or bottle of water or whatever) if you were thirsty? Probably yes generally speaking but would you pay a buck for the same can of coke knowing it was empty?
Would you pay $800 to travel to the airport, park your car, sit and wait with a bunch of flowers in hand only to return home empty handed, except for the flowers, with everyone thinking 'what a plonker' :)
Actually I have sent money for travel. 4 years ago. It saved me doing a trip and wasting more of my time on someone that I could have been interested in. I dont feel like a plonker. Im not crying that I was scammed. I had a clear objective that this woman was going to show up or I would move on and I saved days of my time which to me is a very valuble commodity.
If you are skint and cant afford it get out of the game.
Dunromin the anology is incorrect. Do I spend $400 and see if she comes or $2000 to go there waste vacation time and get stood up anyway.
As I say each person will have a value on the chance to meet the woman of their dreams and what your time is worth. You may get scammed but that doesnt mean you wont be better off.
Quote: “Do I spend $400 and see if she comes or $2000 to go there waste vacation time and get stood up anyway.”
Gemini: Spending your $400 knowing absolutely she is NOT going to show is not exactly smart. Same as paying a buck for a can of coke you know is empty. Your theory has been tried by many, pay for them to track in and see the punter wherever that may be. Been there, done that and oh how romantic......Not. Only the desperates will come in for that one.
By your own analogy, this is not for the poor men and that extends to men who are time poor also. The real point with this particular case is the woman has no intention nor means to travel to meet him, it’s throwing $400 into the wind for an empty coke can.