I have been on this website for 5 months & corresponded with 5 girls so far. I have changed my intro letters to find out the level of seriouness. I told them all I am very serious about finding my second half & will eventually meet and so on. But soon as the 3rd or 4th letter is sent to them, they all reject, and say they only want friendship for now. I am learning since I am constantly changing my approach in intro letters, they all want reply messages from you, but after couple o exchanges they change their mind. Now I don't know who is typing these letters as all are typed differently, in styles, in language. so I am not sure if these are the agents typing them. They look and feel real, but still doubt them. I have asked all the girls to send a recent picture but they all have declined. But the thing is some of the girls have video chats, & I haven't taken that up yet. So again we are left in doubt. How can you cheat videochat, that has got to work. Another thing is when writing to them ask them serious questions from the start and waste no time if she is interested or not. As I can see even the interested ones get less interested as time passes by, the replies get shorter. I am having doubts about this agency! Anyone have similar experiences please share them?
Maybe the problem is you....Sure after a few letters they might make up their mind that you're not floating their boat. Happens to the best of us.
I've never had experience of Anastasia but I get the idea of what it's about and wouldn't waste my time.don't understand why guys would write strings of letters to gils who could be fictitous, married or playing some game.
"How can you cheat videochat, that has got to work" seems to me like your the kind of guy that's always looking for the angle...save yourself a few quid by cheating the system...maybe that comes through in the letters you write and the girls loose interest.
Something to consider
OK, VNVnation I am giving you their numbers, please help me find out???
About replies from others, I have done my research, & thats why I am being real serious to the girls I am corresponding with. And asking them for pictures, postal addresses & for some of them I will do the Video Chat soon. I have also created a fake profile and see who is flirting with me. I got very serious with this one girl & she said she would like to meet me well after a week the same girl sent an intro letter to the fake profile I created also so I have told her about that, and waiting for her reply. Right now I corresponding with 4 girls in total, but if things don't work out, I am going over board with another 10, I don't know the girls here on this site are really attractive from others.
Shaz...I don't know why you are having troubles as you are. I always gets pics when I ask, and I usually am the one who stops writing. Maybe it is the type of girls you are writing to. Don't bother with video chat, I think it is waste of money, girls will surely get you to stay on as long as possible. I don't even like the short videos. Do you have a plan? Mine to start writing a couple months before I will visit city, so you don't write so many letters, and set up meetings, if girls are fake they will drop. If you have a ukrainian number give it to girls,it will go through ok in letters. Ask for postal address, then send flowers and you can get their phone number through florist( worked for me). As far as who writes letters, who knows, i just have not found any girls that haven't( or at least know).
Hey VNV, I'll PM you a couple that I think are sincere, maybe I am wrong????
I can tell you that there is no way in hell those first two are serious - they are just models used for bait and switch, or girls after clothes and holidays. Teenage beauties like will be gunning for a local business owner (or mafia guy, seriously ...) and yes in another 10 years when they are divorced with a kid they might be more serious. The second two very doubtful also to be honest unless your wealthy good looking and no more than 10 years older than they are.
Ok, thanks for your reply. I am 28 years old and just a brown guy here, maybe thats the reason why I am not getting good response. I have also created a fake profile of another black guy and he is also getting good responses (intro letters from girls).
I have contacted customer support and asked them about to improve my intro letter. They said all is fine except for the following lines : I will not come over to visit / meet you in your country but it will be you who will come over to meet me in Canada. I have made the changes.
Their reason for the change is that majority of the girls don't speak English so they will be uncomfortable to going over to another country and getting the visa for Canada(Actually Icould sponsor the girl-I have the paperwork). And they say maybe you turn out to be someone else other than in your profile!
What shall I do to improve my chances? Should I go after less attractive ones? Coz the pretty ones show their interest in the first 2 - 3 letters and after that they just want to be friends.
shaz. if you did your research you wouldn't be contacting Anastasia in the first place.
My advice would be just to go on one of Anastasia tours. You will meet girls. You will meet guys in your situation. You'll have a good time. If your not sociable enough or willing to do that then you shouldn't be in this business.
your not willing to travel to meet the girl first? you think you can send out for a girl like you can send out for pizza? thats pretty fucked up dude. maybe you are taking 'mail order bride' a little too seriously.
To improve your chances you should use a different agency. For the most part, A-I is a scam.
The girls you are writing to do exist--there is a real girl who stood in front of the camera and took some pictures. But these girls are not writing to you; they have no idea that you exist.
The letters are being written by people like my friend. Girls who are employed by the various affiliates to write letters and generate income for the agency. Occasionally, if the translator sees a guy that she thinks the girl might really like, she'll call her up and tell her about it. But for the most part, the girls don't even know about the letters written on their behalf.
I have received letters from about five girls that I know--girls that I met in daily life, dated, and then stopped seeing. It is hilarious to see these letters: "My name is Olga and I think we might be perfect for each other..."
There are 60,000 guys who are members of A-I. If you think that your 20 year old model is writing only to you and dreaming of a happy family life, you are wrong. She is dreaming of meeting one of the local rich guys who park their Porsche Cayenne Turbo or their Mercedes S600 on the sidewalk in front of the expensive restaurants in town. And if she can't land one of those guys, she'll settle for the ambitious businessman who already owns an apartment and drives a Toyota.
If you really want to improve your chances, use a local agency, write a few letters, and then make a trip. Focus on a small city, and don't get hung up looking for the model-types.
It's ridiculous to think that a sincere girl will come to visit you in Canada first. You might find a girl who is just looking for a free trip, but not a girl who is wife material. Just go to Ukraine and meet ladies. Winter is a good time because there are less foreigners running around making everyone in town hate them.
Shaz triple 4 dude:
Write letters and be straight up.
No rocket science here. No tricks. No magic formulas.
If it does not work out, then get out dude.
VNVnation has good advice. Use local agency and go.
For me I have not gone yet but I have spent enough money
to know that you must make contact and then go.
"I will not come over to visit / meet you in your country but it will be you who will come over to meet me in Canada"
i think the agency were just being polite when they said that girls wouldn't want to come over because of their english skills. they wouldn't be interested in you *because* you don't even want to go and see them!
the first 2 girls on your list certainly must be models and not really on the site. olya just said that there is often advertisments for agencies/websites in girls magasines here, for girls that *really* want to meet a foreign guy. we'll buy some magasines next time we go to the shop and have a look.
Texasdude is right, get as many DIRECT contacts and go to meet girls and stay away from agencies. Most of the girls listed at Anastasia, Dream-match, Elena Models... I can find on local social website in 2 minutes!
Shaz - you will not come to Ukraine to meet a woman? It will be her that has to go to Canada to visit you?
Why are you involved in this whole find a girl in the FSU thing?
I think even those guys on here and elsewhere who have not yet been to the FSU, for whatever reason, at least fully intend to at some point, NEVER heard of a guy who does not want to come, and INSISTS that any girl he writes to and appears to get on with MUST go to meet him in his country.
Gecko is right I think.
Also, you mention that you are "Brown", not being funny brother but..............this is the FSU, they dont yet share the same liberal views of the West. Inter-racial relationships - Homosexuality - Lesbianism etc - not common here. I'm currently in a town of around 300,000 people, been here 10 days so far, been to the Disco 3 times on this trip, numerous times on other trips, have yet to see a "Brown" person, it's 100% White. Spoken to my girl and some of her friends about this very subject, all do not believe Whites are some kind of superior race but, ALL, including their friends, and friends of theirs say they simply do not fancy "Brown" guys, and would never go with one. I dont believe it to be racists views from them, they just prefer their own kind. They tell me Russia and pretty much all FSU countries are the same in this regard.
In Kiev in the summer I saw no more than 3 "Brown" people, and they were students, they appeared, at least to me anyway, to be looking around them at all times in a nervous fashion as they walked along the city street in which I saw them.
I'm told Ukrainian men have been known to beat foreign looking people, and I have just read on the net 2 reports in the last year were Homosexuals were beaten, in one case quite severly, in the street by Ukrainian guys.
Just maybe something for you to think about is all.
Philopeano girls I'm told couldn't give a damn what colour a guy is!!!!!!
Hi Guys! I'm Sunny from Wolverhampton in the United Kingdom. I'm a 40 year old man with Indian roots. I also have 'brown skin'. Just for the record Shaz so you're not alone. Just joined the forum as I have been to Ukraine through Anastasia International 2 years ago. I am no longer a member on their site. I had a few good experiences and a lot of bad ones unfortunately. In all, 'my experience' with A.I. cost me approximately £4000 including all letters and phone calls to the 'girls'. I was in Odessa for 1 week and in Kharkiv for a week also.
It all started when I joined a dating site called Dating Direct. I found I was getting more mail from FSU countries than my own and most of the girls from FSU countries were giving me email addresses so I could chat to them directly on messenger. I have to say that the women from the FSU countries where far more appealing with regards to looks than the majority of British women. I did some research (obviously not enough!) and joined A.I. I found a site full of model quality women. I started 'corresponding' with a few women in Odessa and a few in Kharkiv. At the time, it was £2 to send a letter and £2 to read the reply. I asked them in their letters how they look so good? The reason they look so good is because they will go to a photography studio and have a full photoshoot in the same way a model would before they put any photo's online. Which made me kind of think what they would look like first thing in the morning! When I asked them for a normal photo taken on their mobile phone or camera, they were all reluctant to send me one except one woman. I will come to this at a later date. After a few months of corresponding with them, I thought I should go out there to see what it's all about as I've always found that part of the world to be a little odd in terms of culture, morals, religion and traditions, plus I needed a break so off I went. I booked everything through A.I.
It started as soon as the plane landed at Odessa International Airport. I'm quite used to being in locations where I'm the only coloured person but Ukraine was the only place where I actually felt uncomfortable with it. The first thing I noticed was the seriousness on the faces of the people. Smiles were very few and far between if not absent! They are very to the point. No 'Hello, how are you? How was your flight ? I was in Odessa for 1 week and in Kharkiv for a week also.
To cut a long story short Anastasia International are running a business as are the smaller agencies that are affiliated with them. if a girl is getting 200 letters a week, do you think they want her to have a happily ever after? No they don't. They want to use her face, looks and criteria to keep the money coming in. I saw it with my own eyes! I was using the internet at one of the smaller agencies as I had decided not to take my laptop with me and the girl sat next to me was writing replies to letters from guys like me. The more she writes, the more she gets paid. I did meet 5 of the 6 girls I planned to meet. I saw some of the girls registered with the agency come in and ask if their was any interest in them. They all insisted they wanted their own translators as it is the translators that have probably been writing to you from the agency as the girl probably doesn't know a damned thing about you. The translators are the ones who dictate how things are going to turn out as they have all the power being the point of reference. They will take you to restaurants they could never afford to eat in. On 2 occasions I did a runner from the restaurant and left them there by pretending I had a call on my mobile and the reception in the restaurant was very bad so i had to go outside! That's how bad it got.
Ukraine is a very poor country and if you don't earn a living you will more than likely live in poverty. The price of food in Ukraine is the same as in England. A teacher in a school will earn approximately $200 a month. There is very little help from the government if any and the situation isn't getting any better because the precedence of corruption has been set by the government itself!
There is only one question you need to ask yourself. If Ukraine was a part of the European Union, do you think they would show the same interest in us? This is about getting out of Ukraine at any cost and not to live happily ever after with you or me. I know a Ukrainian girl who is happy now that she has her passport and is free from her 'husband'. She doesn't look like those girls on A.I. Far from it actually.
The U.K. is full of people from FSU countries which are now a part of the E.U. who come here to work and make a better life for themselves. I'm actuallly in a relationship with a woman from Poland I met at work. Things couldn't be better for me!
I hope this is useful to someone.There is a lot I haven't mentioned but I feel I have covered the main points of interest