I have had a short correspondence with a lady on this site, 5 or 6 letters, she is definitely the best thing since 'bread came sliced' so decided to get over there and meet face to face. Have not arranged to meet anyone else, and if she cant make it or we dont get on its ok with me, will just chill out in the city, see the sites etc.
Im 34, she is 23. First question, is that age gap ok or too much? Would like your opinion..
Obviously I want to bring some gift, preferably something that would not be easily available in Ukraine. Any suggestions?
A difference of eleven years in ages is very little. If she is interested in a serious relationship, she would appreciate the extra years of experience that you bring.
Just about everything you might want is available in the Ukraine; the problem is that few people have the money to afford luxuries. A newly released perfume would be a good idea; sales staff in the airport duty free shops could advise.
age gap is fine. i'm 37 living with my ukrainian gf in kyiv and she's 23. the only thing i can't find here right now is marmite! seriously... you can find most things here, but with the dollar going up i guess anything from abroad must be getting more expensive. girls always love purfume and they *always* love bags! so i bought olya some french purfume that came in cute leather bags when i came here in the summer! i think she could start a hand bag shop if she wanted! lol! ut's a fantastic city by the way... /pete
Your relative ages arn't a problem, but with her being only 23 I would be careful. The vast majority of women under 25 on these sites are not serious, even those that think they really do want to move abroad probably have not really though it through and have little idea what they are really letting themselves in for.
You'll soon find out though - if your excursions around Kiev just "accidentally" happen to include the street with all the designer clothes and cosmetics outlets then you know you've got yourself a "shopper". If that happens, well spend as little money as you think you can get away with, collect your ehem "reward", and move on ...
Be under no illusions whatsoever that you can genuinely impress a Kiev girl by flashing a few hundred $ about in shops and restaurants though, there a lot of money about in this city.
Sometime the best correspondence are short... As far as gift... make it simple. Perfume, necklace, earings ,,, . Then look at her reaction... age gap is not bad, just the age 23..Take your time..with her,, make sure this is what she and you want.
I would have a plan B! . There are several reputable agencies,, in Kiev, Kiev connection, Foreign Affair, Miss USA. to name a few..
Spend some time walking around with her.. have her take you to Bessable market, the out door market, walk around St. Andrews Catheral, Sofia Catherdial .. go to a movie..
Just up the hill from Independence Square is O'Briens (not so) Irish pub, they are on the internet, perhaps you might bump in to a Brit in there who may be travelling back and forth, 'hey mate, can you bring me some Marmite?' :)
When I lived in Belgium & Luxembourg whoever was heading back to UK bought back supplies of Branston pickle, malt vinegar, mint sauce, Twiglets, gravy granules etc. etc. etc. :)
Hey guys, thanks for the advise. Will let ye know how things go. Going over on the 6th of January, back the 9th. Interesting flighs from Budapest to Kyiv with Malev were approx 200 euro. I was able to get a flight Dublin, Budapest, Kyiv for 150 euro with the same airline..
Hi Stuartde! Very good that you go to Kiev soon, i think you will have wonderful time there! Age difference between you and a girl you are going to meet is good, at least, it is not very big, it is ok. But, to my mind, every trip takes time, afforts and money, it would be better for you to correspond with couple girls, in case if it doesn't work with one of them. But, it is just an idea. I say that, as i met so many people who came to meet only one woman and then this woman didn't show up and they were very upset about that and very frustrated. But, it is up to you to decide, i just wanted to give an idea:) What about a present, i don't advise you to bring her earrings, or perfumes as tastes differ. The best idea is to give her beautiful roses on the first meeting and then, if you have a chemistry and like each other very much, you can take her to nice clothes shop and buy what she definitely likes. As all girls are different and it is very difficult to please them:)And as you know, all women always say that they have nothing to wear, even if their wardrobe is falling apart from things. So, i wish you good trip and wonderful time in Kiev!
good plan martin! actually i'm planning on meeting bassuk there in a few days. never been to that bar before, should be interesting! actually i haven't been into the centre of town for a while either! ah!!!! twiglets!
stuartde: obviously i'll still be here then! i'll pm you my phone number if you want it.
Wow. what Mila says is incredible. First, she says that the girl might not be there to meet with you. WOW. can you imagine that. you spend thousands on your vacation to meet this girl. maybe it is the only week out of the year you could take your vacation. and as you stand on the train platform, you realize it was all a lie. When I said that in another post, you might not have believed me. but here it is in black and white. Well, it has never happened to me thank god but I have seen a man wait with roses on a platform, only to see everybody on the train come and go. The look on his face killed me.
Mila, you want the man to buy her clothes on the second date? Mila, no offense, but you represent everything that is wrong with women.
Guys, I have met good and bad girls. Trust me, the good girls would NOT want you to buy them shit on the second date. The serious girls are looking for love not a screw for gifts relationship. I don't know what milas agenda is. but its not pure in heart.
Look gecko! Don't find faults with every word i say, i want to be useful for members.I said couple bad examples, as i want Stuardt to be careful and i know what i say from my own experience!So, please, read carefuly what people say.There are lots of other ways to express your own malice!
There is a difference between a girl taking a guy shopping and a guy taking a girl shopping...all depends on who initiated it. If a guy wants to take a girl to buy something, its his decision.....I just hope he doesn't come back crying about being scammed!!!!!!
I think what mila was saying, IF a guy and girl hit it off and guy wanted to make nice gesture, then to buy nice gift is what would make nice impression.
its Christmas and also my birthday so i will take it easy on beemer.
absolutely in no situation would you want to take a girl shopping on your first meeting.
under ANY circumstance. it doesn't matter who initiated it. would you do that to a girl
in your own country? no, of course not. normal girls don't want to be treated like whores. and ESPECIALLY don't buy her a present the day after you first have sex. if you have to ask why then you just don't get it or your on the wrong forum.
sorry i know thats harsh but i come from a place that is pure in heart and if you want a sponsor relationship maybe you should try out sugar daddy dot com.
if after you have established a relationship, meaning your second trip to meet her, then it is ok to show a small token of your affection.
but as peteb and I have known from experience, a good and serious girl will not want you to waste your money. a key for me is, if you are staying together in an apartment, does she cook for you? something simple, like pasta even is a good sign.
Thanks Gecko for taking it easy on me...maybe it is good timimg lay it on you hard( just kidding). We just disagree on this. I don't fault a guy for using his own mind to figure if he wants to buy something or not. It is not me to decide what he should or should not do. Your post gecko lets everyone know what YOU would do...great....for others to do the opposite of you are not wrong...just their own way. If they come back screaming...it is your fault!!
By the way Merry Christmas and Happy Birthday gecko....mine is coming again :-0 soon!!!!!