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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Do you really want to get married in this climate Author Post TINTIN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2009 5:08:36 PM   This year will see a major economic breakdown followed by worldwide riots, as people who have lost everything rebel against the situation, where those in power save themselves at the expense of everyone else. This is according to the forecast by Gerald Celente of The Trends Research Institute, New York, who successfully predicted the panic of 2008. The global crisis will only get worse according to Celente and turn into the greatest depression in modern history. He compares the world economy with the cruise liner Titanic. The ship is sinking, he says, and spaces on the lifeboats are few. Even now people who suffered from the global crisis are ready to resort to violence, as the reports from Iceland, Latvia and Lithuania indicate. As the meltdown continues, the situation will only get worse. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2009 6:19:45 PM   TINTIN, Only last week (ish) you were trying to, via PM's, sell to us the idea of travelling to Ukraine etc. Why your change of attitude and does the personal opinion of one Gerald Celente, whoever the phuck he may be, really impact upon my marriage or indeed the price of condoms for those still searching? Oldman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2009 6:51:59 PM   What are you suggesting Tintin? Give up the idea of getting married and find some cave to hide in? ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 4:29:19 AM   I think is suggesting giving up on everything and killing himself before the riots start. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 6:15:51 AM   Why wouldn't you get married, particularly if you are one of the unlucky ones who is debt up to your ears? You get to halve your debt overnight and might even get laid a time or three in the process. In debt? Get married and bring on the divorce lawyers.................... Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 3:23:43 PM   Dunromin doth speak sooth. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 8:39:22 PM   I don't know where you guys are from but assets and debts before marriage in the US are separate property. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 8:42:02 PM   RB not true unless you have a prenup. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 9:04:54 PM   Sure it is, Nasfan. If you there is a piece of property that's been in your family for years, or any property, and it is under your name before your marriage, your spouse cannot lay claim to it, unless you use community funds to pay for mortgage or improvements. The formula used by lawyers in divorce is to determine the price of the property at the time of marriage and distribute the remaining equity to either party 50-50. Sure, it is prudent to get a prenup, because that removes the doubt. If you have cash in the bank or stocks in a brokerage, as long as you don't mix it with your community funds during marriage, that is yours after divorce. When you mix it with you salary, your salary is community funds and the courts usually will not unravel that for you. Debts are tricky. You are allowed to get a separate credit card. But, what did you use the credit for, was it for community purposes? In most cases, if you put only your salary for applying for a credit card, you can argue that it is separate. Your salary is another matter. I believe it is a ten year marriage when your spouse has earned the right to a lifetime alimony. At least, that's how it is in California. It might be different in other states, but I doubt it. I don't really want to argue with you, Nasfan, but please look it up before you debate me on this. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 10:31:56 PM   Here's a link that somewhat explains it, sort of. http://www.legalzoom.com/divorce-guide/community-property-separate-pro perty.html ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2009 11:14:42 PM   Sorry, guys. I cut and pasted that link. I tried it. It is the same website, but not at the community property page. I don't know how to get that page. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 12:19:17 AM   RB sorry but when you marry unless you prenup your property she has claim to it for the length of time she lives there. Perfect example in my town. Guy found a woman in France she moved here they were married a few years now divorced he has to pay her 50% of the equity in the home. If she has equity she has ownership. Another thing you need to look into RB regarding a Marriage from the FSU even if you divorce you are responsible for her for up to ten years. If she goes on public assistance you will have to pay the government back. So before you go to deep you better learn the rules of the road. Alimony and property rights aren't the only things you have to worry about. So don't think it's over if you get divorced or she has to leave the country, it's not true and you are on the hook for 10 years or if she remarries which ever is the soonest. I wouldn't risk it on the advice of some website. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 3:38:56 PM   Nasfan, did you notice that your statement is moving? First, you disagreed that assets and debts are separate property before marriage. Now, you agree but only if she lived there. How does one prove how long he/she lived in a particular house? Suppose she lived there a short time or a long time years ago? Find a utility bill? Will this be absolute proof to her claim in the property? If so, how is the percentage determined? No, Nasfan. They look at your date of marriage to determine separate and community property as I’ve stated above. The divorce courts are burdened enough. I can’t imagine if proving one lived in such and such property becomes an issue if one has claim to a certain property. You are responsible for an FSU woman for up to ten years after divorce? Such a law would be discriminatory. Why just FSU? Why not a Mexican or French or Spanish or even an American? Why does a marriage to FSU woman need a special law? If there is such a law, it would be struck down by the Supreme Court as discriminatory. Also, how about enforcement? Enforcement of a divorce settlement to American is bad enough. If there is such a law, which I doubt, it is an FSU law and it is not applicable to the US. The Affidavit of Support is one of the USCIS papers needed for her to immgrate to the US. It states that you will reimburse the government if she receives public assistance. Your obligation ends when she becomes an American citizen. If she wants to sponsor her parents, children or relatives, which most do, she needs to become an American citizen. An immigration attorney told me that. So you did not believe or did not read Mini Cooper when he said when he got divorced, he sent her money for six months? I assumed that to be voluntary. Who would enforce such a law? Proving compliance, sending documents back and forth for proof would be a nightmare. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 4:02:19 PM   OK. This link works. The first time, a space was included in "property". http://www.legalzoom.com/divorce-guide/community-property-s eparate-property.html ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 4:03:21 PM   Now, there is a space in separate.... I wonder how that happened. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 11:11:18 PM   RB, I agree with you, in my state (Michigan) you do not need a prenup. What was yours before marriage is yours after marriage... period. A prenup simply makes it easier to establish “who owned what” at divorce time. Anything you acquire "during" marriage becomes community property. Case in point; just "before" my second marriage I bought some lake Michigan property for $17,000 and after 12 years of marriage I was forced to sell it to pay off divorce debts. I sold it for $280,000 and not one red cent was hers. (It helps to keep good records) Yes, it was voluntary; I sent her money for six months and gave her a large cash settlement so she could establish herself back in Russia in the exact condition I found her. Something I chose to do, not something I was forced to do by the courts. NastyMan... shut up gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2009 11:43:53 PM   'if she has equity she has ownership' that makes no sense. If her name isn't on the contract she has no ownership. maybe, if, while you are married living there together, the price of the home increases by $5000. She might be due $2500 on divorce. But thats it. in general, the stuff you have before your married is yours. that protects both parties. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Do you really want to get married in this climate
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