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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > The TRUTH about Russian women Author Post chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/24/2003 5:46:13 PM   Now, we have heard both bad and good things in this forum, so I asked a lady I am conversing with to explain to me why russian ladys would make a good wife, as compared to an american, or otherwise. I trust this lady completly as to tell the truth, just wanted to share her view: "During the Soviet time one couldn't buy a flat, he could only "receive" it from the state. The flats were given to people for free, according to the time they worked on the enterprise. One should only pay a small fee for communal services. The state norms for giving the flats were rather tough, with 5-8 square meters for a person. A family with 2 children of the same sex would get only 2 rooms apartment of about 30 square meters (kitchens, bathrooms and passages were not taking into account). A divorced woman with a daughter would get only one-room apartment. Nowadays one can buy a flat, and the state does not give flats to people for free anymore. Buying a flat is unachievable for the majority of people because of small salaries. Living in small flats together with parents and/or children makes Russians take care of each other. They have to be considerate and ready to compromise. One has to adapt to the family lifestyle and rules. Any person has his own limit of patience and acceptance of the things but Russians\ Ukrainians have much higher potential limits. If compare those limits with thermometer, Americans have 20-degrees "thermometer", and when they reach this point, their emotional "thermometer" just fails to work further. For them it's a critical situation. Russians have 100-degrees thermometer, and in the same situation, which is unacceptable for an American, they will act as if nothing happens. That's why I think that Russian women have the proper skills to make good wives. They usually do not let situation to come to the point of no return. It does not mean that they give up their goals easily, but they try to reach them in a different, less complicated or roundabout way. They do not intend to prove their point, and the result is of more importance than the rightness. You won't even notice how it happened that you eventually did what she wanted. And it does not mean that the woman is devious or the like; for her it's just natural" Any comments from the gallery? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2003 8:40:05 AM   Chip, so this is from a lady you're conversing with? Just a hunch - isn't she married with 2 kids and lives in Durban these days? If I'm wrong I wonder where she learned English, and also how she got the knowledge to compare both nationalities. chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2003 6:02:01 PM   She is a teacher, and educated in philosophy, as well as english. After 23 letters, and no mention of money, or anything suspect, I think I can trust her that her word is good. eternalknight Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2003 6:51:50 PM   Chip i think that is a fair analogy and good comparison at least from what information i have gathered.My lady friend in Moscow says that the average russian workers wage is 70.00 a month it is higher in Moscow and St.Petersburg but only modestly.I find that so amazing i make that for just showing up in the morning i will never complain about my wages again.I think average Russian people excluding criminals and the wealthy few have more soul sense of family and what is important in life than alot of Americans.And guys like us are just trying to hold onto what was family in the 60s and early 70s i refuse to believe life is about owning a 40.000 SUV that costs 100.00 to fill up or a house that is even way to big for the waltons or wondering how far i can go into debt to out do my neighbor.Life is about the senses the fragrance of a lady and her touch,sights and momments that we will remember when we are very old men that my friend is true wealth."The Path of Excess leads to the Tower of Wisdom" deanis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/25/2003 11:27:29 PM   Chip, Everything she wrote to you is right on the money. I lived with a Russian family for two weeks in a small city in Southern Russia. It was amazing to watch how they overcame everyday obstacles that would have derailed most of us here in America. It's not uncommon to have three generations living in the same flat. Grandma, Mom and dad, Daughter with her new husband, and brothers or sisters. After that experience I knew that one day I would marry a FSU woman. I'm a man on a mission and failure is not an option. chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 1:20:45 AM   Knight, I agree with you fully. I make a decent income, plenty to support myself, and a wife and child if she did not want to work, I have a 2 bedroom 1200 sq foot apartment, and I drive a Hyundai sedan. I have a zero balance on my credit cards, and I do not feel the need to outdo anyone, even my mercedes driving neighbors. I am happy with what I have, I have a good life, a great family, but the one thing that is lacking I am looking for here. I too will not settle, and I am determined to succeed! JimiHendrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 9:55:16 AM   I live in a trailer and saving for a new carburettor. What are my chances? chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 12:48:00 PM   Jimi, you are so eloquent in your writings, I find that hard to believe! If that is true, pep boys has rebuilt carbs real cheap! Ha! eternalknight Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 2:55:18 PM   The Germans have a saying "Still water runs deep" but in jimi,s case i think it just stagnates. JimiHendrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 4:37:16 PM   Like to keep it simple chip. I’m trying to develop knight but unfortunately I’m a bit daft. I love it :-) Freedom (Hendrix) chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/26/2003 10:43:48 PM   As long as you are happy, my friend, I am happy. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2003 4:44:52 PM   Chip...listen to Thunderdome.......he asked you a question which you duly answered,but those same words were indeed written by the lady he says lives in Durban with her children. If you want the URL,I am sure Thunder or myself would be more than happy to oblige. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2003 1:07:46 PM   "But after 23 letters, and no mention of money, or anything suspect, I think I can trust her that her word is good." Gladiator, some (or most?) refuse to do their homework. Let him continue, and no, won't give you the link Chip - find it yourself for a change! (In fact it is in this forum already somewhere) And to be very clear, only her use of the English language should have you on your toes - and no, I don't say she's not for real - only her letter is. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2003 1:12:54 PM   Just thinking regarding all comments above - EVERY single ONE but Gladiator should really start doing some homework, for NONE of you recognized the text ????????? Either that or all suffer from Altsheimer ..... Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2003 1:53:36 PM   "Any comments from the gallery?" Yes, been thinking even more ... Chip, you say this is the umphteenth letter from her to you – fine. This means you already correspond for a while. You’ve cut out a piece formulated in absolutely perfect English, and also (of course, I’d cut it out also) no reference is made to you anywhere, or anything personal for that matter. Now bear with me. If I’d write to someone and got a reply in better English than my own writing I’d be very wary, instantly. But exceptions do exist, granted, and you must have sorted your feelings out towards her I presume, still writing after many letters. However, really very very few are capable to produce the stunning English she’s writing in (your posted piece), that is a given. Now, because of the fact that this piece is copied she reasonably must have done that more & before, but this is a hard way to write letters, especially when inevitably some questions have to be answered. So, her “language-glue” to make her pastings make sense AND in line with whatever she copies must be of the same calibre, i.e. of the same quality, and this is doubtful to say the least when she has to resort to copy-cat copy. It could of course also be that she’s just doing fine, copying whatever suits, and glues it into place whilst answering your letters. Big question then obviously is why she copies, there is always a reason for such. And copying being not entirely honest I doubt if her reasons are entirely honest, and this makes her very interesting – she wants something but she plays for time! I mean, she has not asked you yet for anything you said? Bottom line Chip, something is fishy here. I’ll be more clear, it is either her or you. If it is her she must be exceptionally clever and faultless, a very rare gem, for she is addressing someone who’s default English speaking hence will pick up a small inconsistency very quick. Or he must be gullibly stupid – are you Chip, or do you expect us all to be ? If it is not entirely clear what I mean, by all means ask – then I will explain fully .... gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2003 4:57:13 PM   Thunder,I am total agreement with you,and the scary thing is...the documented passage we are all discussing I thought was quite widely known.....apparently not here!!!"Doing your homework" is good advice,using whatever means we have at our disposal.Lets face it guys,if you are thinking of planning a trip of several thousand miles,surely it makes common sense to use every means we have. Or maybe nobody has heard of Search engines.......:) chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2003 10:57:42 PM   OK, here is a copy of a letter I recieved from her just today...... "Hello, Corey! I’m sorry but I didn’t get a reply to that letter with a picture. Probably I was lost or just didn’t get its destination, anyway thanks for telling me this, to be honest I was afraid my last letter and the picture scared you off and you no longer want to speak with me. Just for you to know- if there is something wrong with you or me and we feel we do not want to continue our correspondence, we both will let each other know about it, okay, just we will be very honest and sincere with each other, I think we both do not play games here and are serious about finding our soul mates, so, let’s make a deal to be honest and starightforward with each other, alright? I’m flat to hear that you liked my picture and saved it on the computer. If I had a computer I would save yours too. As for the weather it’s extremely cold here and you know, I hate winter, I do not like when it’s very cold and freezing, I like when it’s warm and nice. My weekend- ther was no weekend at all, you know I’m thinking about quitting my job at school, I’m very tired, and my students- well, you know somwtimes they are unbearable. Enough said about them. What about you? How was your weekend and Thanksgiving? I would like to hear your comments on what I said in my previous letter with a picture attached. Stay well and write back soon, and welcome back to our correspondence!!!!!! Julia" sound familiar to anyone? I know she is a teacher of english, that is why her english is so good. In this forum, we hear of scammers all the time, and the consistencies of the scammers I do not detect with her. She has not asked for money, she does not say she is a model, she does not lament about her financial situation, and most of our letters have to do with us disscussing differences in Russian and American culture. My brother recently got married (to an american) and we spent 3 long letters back and forth discussing the differences in weddings! (the bottom line: in a Russian wedding, it was a success if no one can remember it!). Thunder, you say either she is a rare gem or something is up. Unless anyone here can prove me wrong, I have to go with the former, and think I am talking to a rare gem here. Have to give her the benefit of the doubt Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2003 2:59:02 AM   This posted letter is riddled with small errors, and the use & application of the language is quite different – you don’t notice that yourself? ‘Good’ and ‘Perfect’ are many miles apart. By all means continue with this girl, but I would have insisted on a telcon yesterday already. Someone writing like this is likely to be able to think on her feet, and you should test this – and see if you like it! After 23 (24 now?) letters, representing a long correspondence period already, she still seems rather insecure regarding you liking her and volunteers to stick to a very basic ‘gentlemens’ agreement. What the ???? have you been writing about all this time??? Are you in love with your butterfly-collection or afraid to get personal? Or both :) ? She does not have a computer hence cannot save pic’s. Open up an account on any of the free mailsite’s (Yahoo, Hotmail etc) and (YOU!) pay peanuts for an extended memory allocation so she can save whatever mugshots you send. Better even, YOU open it & pay, then hand it over to her and she can modify the password. Doing this on Hotmail (the only one I believe, but check yourself) you can even prevent any junkmail by stating Eddresses allowed access, i.e. ALL others will be barred. So put your Eddress in, and the use of this account is limited to the two of you. And for those not knowing this: although one can send her a full pc by mailorder (and fridges, stove’s etc) reasonable computers are available and fairly cheap there, affordable for some even. And ISP-cards (pre-paid system) I believe one can pay for online (ask her where & how) so this relatively expensive part (it is) you can pay for. 10 dollars will just see her through the month, 20 easily. On your first visit you could buy her a pc (there), most have telephone in any case already, and take it from there. That is, Chip, you realise there’s hopefully quite a bit more to it than just a single visit? chipscher Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2003 12:23:35 PM   Thunder, We have spoke about personal things, and when I told her some things she was skeptical, and yes, she is still cautious when I bring things like feelings up. So, we don't really talk like that, but I like our correspondence, she asks some weird things, like is it acceptable in our society to use Euthanaisa on people who are suffereing, and stuff like that, but I like our correspondence and the only thing I can say is only time will tell. I correspond with others too, and I like everyone for their own personalities. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > The TRUTH about Russian women
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