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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Problems with luggage in airports Author Post leonfromkherson Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 1:58:43 PM   How often do you have problems with your luggage in Ukrainian airports? ndfb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 3:19:32 PM   I had problems in Kiev with carry on. They seemed to be much more strict than all other international airports. Even Amsterdam. Anya told me that a guy who recently visited one of her friends had his baggage disappear for five days. Not sure if it was lost at Kiev or their city. Either way, Im taking everything carry on and bringing some extra cash to bribe the crap out of the person checking carry ons! My flight from Kiev to Anyas city was cancelled and I had to book a earlier flight only giving me like 1hr and 30 min instad of the 3 hr delay. I dont trust them to get me the luggage and onto the flight to her in time. WIsh me luck! leonfromkherson Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 5:08:35 PM   NDBF, I wish you good luck. On summer 2008 alot of my clients who visited Kherson had such problems. Man, who worked for some aircompanies in Odessa airport, told me every day on summer he delivered luggage for people who arrived to Odessa airport. He delievered their luggage to Nikolaev, Kherson and Crimea. One of my client arrived to Kherson for 4 days. He got his bags on the morning of 4th day. He got bags on the morning and in evening the taxi took him to Odessa airport. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 7:40:38 PM   Leon, It happens in every country, if baggage doesn't arrive at Odessa airport then the luggage has not gone missing in Ukraine, it never made it to Ukraine! I once travelled London-Istanbul-Tashkent, my supposed 1 hour connection in IST became 30 minutes (or less) and when by bag didn't arrive in TAS it was me telling Turkish Airlines where my bag obviously was, they didn't have a clue. Between IST and TAS there is a flight every day, either Turkish or Uzbek Airways, on alternate days, and it took Turkish 3 days to locate my bag, they refused to pay to put it on Uzbek thus they sent 'a' bag to TAS on the 4th day only for it not to be my bag. It then took them another 2 days to forward the correct bag to TAS just in time for a national holiday, all offices were closed, thus whilst my bag was in TAS I couldn't get to it until the day I was departing. So I survived a week in the heat of an Uzbek summer with just the clothes on my back and the few essentials I bought. Fortunately the Turkish Airlines guy in TAS had told my, then, girlfriend that the compensation was $50 a day thus whilst they subsequently tried to fob me off with a settlement of $200 I insisted upon $400 and I got it. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 8:27:18 PM   Since they open them anyway sometimes, I didn't lock my luggage. There was no problem going into Ukraine, but they did steal some things from it. The first time, they stole cigarettes. I was going to distribute it to my smoker friends and relatives. The second time, they stole my music and movie CD's. The customs guidelines said storage media where you can smuggle information out is prohibited. I thought that maybe why they stole my CD's. On my third trip, I asked the customs person. He said no problem. I already had it in my carry on that time. Nothing was stolen on my third trip. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 8:48:27 PM   Dnepropetrovsk airport police once told me that I was only allowed one inflamable (deodorant) aerosol, what a load of bollox, what they were saying effectively is that a woman may carry deodorant or hairspray but not both. It was clear that they just wanted an aerosol of my deodorant (rather than the accustomed $20 that they normally tried it on for), one deodorant was close to empty anyway so wasn't worth arguing about, thus I took it out, sparayed it everywhere, and handed to them the empty aerosol with a 'phuck you' expression on my face :) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 9:22:09 PM   Funny thing at Zaporozhye airport. Two very good looking women were security. I doubt if there was any other security there to back them up if there was trouble at about 6:15 in the morning. I went through the metal detector, and it made a sound. I thught I was going to get searched, but the one who was supposed to search me turned red and let me go. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2009 10:28:51 PM   When the wife and I were coming to the states, we were way over capacity on our luggage weight. So the wife took over the conversation with the ladies and said to me give each one of them 50 grivnas each and they will check the luggage through to O'Hare at the time that was 20 bucks and I was looking at an easy 150 dollar charge. As for losing luggage I never had an Issue. KLM was fantastic never had a problem at Kiev. I've had more issues with internal flights in the states. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/3/2009 4:00:55 AM   Zaporozhye Airport Security: I had a bl00dy great (Cossack) knife that had been presented to me as a gift, I've just taken a look at it now and the blade is circa 8 inches in length, to prevent any attempted aircraft hijacking this is an extreme of the type of sharp object thus must be carried in one's hold luggage and this was pointed out to me, and agreed upon, with Zaporozhye security as I checked it in and in my suitcase. Well the flight became indefinately delayed, we had to re-collect our suitcases, head off to the bar and wait. Some 3 hours later we were re-called, our flight would be departing imminently but by now the baggage loaders had gone home so we had to carry our own suitcases on to the aircraft and sit with them, in the cabin, during the flight. Summary: Zaporozhye Airport security had allowed a guy, me, who was under the influence of alcohol to travel in the aircraft cabin with a dangerous (lethal) weapon! bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/3/2009 4:47:46 AM   lost luggage is very common here in the states you can even log on and buy the stuff that goes unclaimed. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/3/2009 2:00:32 PM   There are three main causes I have found for lost baggage. First is short connection. You make the plane but there is not time for the bag to make it. Second the connection airport is a third rate affair with all manual handling. Third is when you have a transfer to different airline. If they dont sight your baggage ticket at transfer desk when getting a boarding pass then bag wont be put on flight even if it is checked all the way. Been caught with that a few times. Traveller tip: Put a shirt, jocks and socks in carryon just in case. leonfromkherson Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/4/2009 4:19:01 AM   Thank you, GeminiDreams. The main reason of problem with luggage in Odeas airport it is short connection. Aircompanies firstly move passsengers from aircraft to aircraft. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/4/2009 7:26:39 AM   leon, They very rarely move passengers from aircraft to aircraft (referred to as a tarmac transfer), at an intermediary airport passengers normal transit through terminal building(s), i.e. they disembark one aircraft, to the terminal, then enmark another aircraft. Baggage is often misdirected regardless if there is an intermediary connection or not, some intermediary airports are tee'ed-up for it, others are not. I transit a lot through Zurich airport, they are very good on sometimes a 20 minute connection, Dusseldorf and Vienna are two others that spring to mind for being good also. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 10:04:30 AM   Just want you guys to know how much FUN I had with my luggage in the airports this time around. Okay, FIRST - I wanted to bring back some Ukrainian cognac (more accurately its just good brandy, but THEY call it cognac). I THOUGHT that I was allowed to bring up to TWO liters of the stuff so I carefully packed 4 half liter bottles, 2 bottles in each of my two suitcases. The baggage checking line at Borispol took forever and when I got to the front the lady told me that ONE of my suitcase was 2.2 kg over weight and I would have to take something out. I asked if I could simply transfer something from the heavier suitcase to the lighter suitcase (as if that should make any difference). She said that would be okay. So I had to drag both suitcases off the belt - unlock the combination locks on both and transfer a half liter of cognac, while people are standing all around me. I got the suitcases back on the belt and the lady now informed me that the heavier suitcase was STILL ONE kg heavy and that if I didn't correct it I would have to pay $50. So I AGAIN dragged both suitcase of and, wary of having all the glass bottles in one suitcase, I tranfered my dopp kit from the heavier back to the lighter one. How stupid is THAT requirement. I mean its still the same weight. The bags are even weighed together by the same SCALE when they are on the belt. The only reason she even knew which weighed more was that I had to put one bag on before the other of course and she watched the scale register. The total weight for my luggage didn't change in any way! Well fine. Then I get to Detroit for customs clearance into the US. And the screener asks me the routine questions. "What was the purpose of this trip, business or pleasure?" I said I was a tourist. Then he asked "Do you have any friends or relatives living in Ukraine that you visited?" I said I visited a friend. Then the guy starts getting a little personal. He says "It was a woman right?" I said "Yes. It was my exfiance." Then he begins a barrage of questions in rapid fire order including. When did you meet her? Did you meet her online? What does she do for a living? Where does she work? How often do you telephone her? How often do you email her? How often do you send her letters through the post office? What do you talk about when you call her? What do you do together? It seemed to me that these questions were a little out of line so I said "You know you're asking me a lot of very personal questions." At that point he stopped, typed quite aa bit on his keyboard and wrote something on my immigration form. At the next station I was pulled out of line and asked to follow some blue arrows on the floor. A female officer read something from a screen and asked similar questions, including "Where does she work?" etc. She then proceeded to have me open both my pieces of luggage for a complete and thorough search of EVRYTHING. Apparently one is not suppose to object to the prying questions about a foreigner that the TSA screener asks you. Kind of reminds me of stories I heardabout the former USSR where if it was known that you were talking to a foreigner, you could be interogated about what you talked about etc. Seems like we in the US are heading more in that direction. Well I was told that I was only allowed to bring ONE liter of alchoholic beverage into the US and she said that she would give me a sheet showing the current regualtions. (She never gave me the sheet.) I was also told that THIS TIME I would not be fined for the extra liter as I did not know. How big of them. (I have ALWAYS brought at least two liters in and always claimed it on my immigartions form and never once have I been serached before or told it was beyond the legal limit. And I have YET to find any information on the TSA website indicating that only one liter is allowed.) Then she told me I could rezipper and relock my luggage. However clearly one of the glass bottles that I had carefully packed was now apparently packed next to another. And when I picked up my luggage at my final destination - my home town - the smell of cognac was evident as was the cognac dripping out of that suitcase and all over my clothes. One of my "ILLEGAL" bottles had broken in the last luggage handling. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 10:12:25 AM   jetmba, wow, sounds really like ussr airport control, not usa. and as far as I know it is 2 liters you can bring. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 11:57:00 AM   WTF? I guess its just as well they only asked about one of your girlfriends. Do you have to answer such questions? Clearly you have been flagged and are in the system now. The total weight of one bag can't normally be 32kg, that makes sence. You have to think about the staff having to lift each bag. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 12:31:13 PM   Answering when I met her and where she worked was easy. Answering how often I communicated with her by various methods was harder because it varies, so of course I stumbled. But what we talked about and what we did together? That's just rediculous and I didn't even try to answer those questions. I'm sure I am flagged and I have sent a formal complaint to the TSA for whatever its worth. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 5:19:19 PM   Jetmba, you must have done something to get them to pick on you at customs. In this case, it is the US customs that gave you the hard time and not the "corrupt" Ukrainian officials. My brother asked me to bring him home some vodka, and I thought that would be something I can give friends and relatives. On my second and third trip, I got two liters. I openly did ask the customs officials in Ukraine how much I am allowed to take out. One of them said two liters, another said five liters. The second one gave me a feeling that they want us to buy their vodka. At the visa/customs checkpoint on my second trip, I was asked what I brought back. I told him among other things, two liters of vodka. No problems. The third trip, I told him two one liter bottles of vodka. Again no problems. Then, I changed my mind I told him two half liters and four quarter liters of vodka. Again no problems. I did ask what the regulations were. I was given a pamphlet. It states that there is no limit for personal consumption, but over the one liter, you can be subject to an internal revenue tax and a duty tax if the customs officer makes a determination that you intend to sell it here. The duty tax for goods coming from Ukraine is 3%. You are allowed an exemption exemption on your first $800 of goods, but alcohol and tobacco are not subject to exemption. By the way, I also asked why the baggage must be 50 lbs and 50 lbs, not 60 lbs and 40 lbs. They are the same weight. I was told they don't want their baggage handlers to carry more than 50 lbs for safety reasons. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2009 7:29:46 PM   i guess i've been pretty lucky all in all. the only time i had problems was in borispol in the summer. i had to change at amsterdam and my bag never made it onto the connecting flight, so not their fault anyway. next day a nice chap brings my bag all the way from the airport to the flat i was renting! no charge or anything. pretty cool. i did have to quickly shop for clean undies, etc on that first day, as i didn't have any clothes in my carry on. so me and olya had a fun first day together! lol had to pay quite a bit as i had too much in my bags on the way here this winter, which was fair enough. and my carryon had to go down below too as it was too heavy. i flew ukrainian international again as they do have some nice cabin crew... :-) /pete jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/11/2009 12:33:08 AM   RagingBull: Hey, don't blame the victim. The customs screener was a young guy maybe 25 years old. He seemed to ask the questions about Ukrainain ladies as if he was genuinely and personlly interested. I think he was a little full of himself and his power and thought he could ask anything he wanted, with his position, and I was obliged to answer any and all questions at his whim. When I chose to put my foot down and tell him that he was asking too many personal questions, he took it as a challenge against his perceived authority. So he did what he could and sent me to a thorough inspection. Beware of little beaurocrats with big egos. The woman didn't seem vindictive at all - but I think maybe recognized that there was no legitimate need for me to have to go through the complete exam. Its possible that she "nailed me" on the fictitious over-the-limit on the alcholhol thing (because I think it really IS TWO liters) just to justify the rest of the search. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Problems with luggage in airports
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