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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > traveling to Crimea Author Post Gtraveler Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/8/2009 8:07:39 PM   My lady and I will be traveling by train from Kiev to Crimea area this summer I would like to know from anybody who has done this before how much should this trip cost me for only train traveling (2nd class) and average hotel for 7 days. Does 3,000 us dollars sound about correct? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/8/2009 11:35:57 PM   Roughly $100 a day for hotel and $45 for round trip ticket for the train. Your $3,000 is more than enough. Just avoid the pickpockets. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2009 11:16:36 AM   Gtraveler - don't go second class unless you buy all of the seats (four) in the berth. It can be done less expensively that to just pay for four seats. You can buy the cabin - less expensive as they will expect two of the sets of linen back. But you MUST make the car private between you and your lady. Very romantic. You bring a nice bottle of wine and a dinner along. If you go standard second class there will be four people - it will be lights out at an incovenient time, and no doubt the converstation and interaction will be enitirely different and in Russian, so you will be the odd man out of conversation. Trust me - you NEED to buy the entire cabin. But this ride is very romantic - I have done it three times to Yalta now. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2009 8:07:01 AM   Gtraveler, I just returned from a two week stay in Yalta, with what I hope will be my future wife. I found a good hotel (The Seasons) at $70 per night. However in the Summer rooms will double in price. Stay away from their interpretation of pizza (yuck) and drink the local wine from the Massandra winery... it's a cool place! Mini Cooper jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2009 11:41:03 AM   Stayed at The Seasons myself with my lady. (Vremna Goda.) Paid about the same rate you did. They have a super breakfast and a very nicely priced lunch - which few people seemed aware of as we generally had the romantic dining room to ourselves. (Actually, since it was off season in January, it seemed that for a few days we were the ONLY people staying at the hotel). They have an indoor saltwater pool as well as dry and Turkish (steam room) saunas. VERY nice place and very easy to get to from the main drag. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2009 11:53:44 AM   Also at The Seasons stay away from the front desk where there is a very annoying guy trying to push his version of expensive "private" excursions on you. The guy seems to ALWAYS be sitting at a little desk next to the reception desk and cannot refrain from looking your lady up and down repeatedly whenever she walks by (very noticeable) and is very condescending when he speaks Russian to the lady (his English is very limited) pushing excursions costing often over $100 per couple, during which he will not actually provide any tour guide services but will expect you to take him out for dinner. This annoyingly persistant guy, who always was the ONLY drawback to the Vremna Goda we found. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/14/2009 6:06:52 AM   sounds like the train can be interesting. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/15/2009 2:56:45 AM   Jet, Yes I would recommend the Vremna Goda hotel to anyone. We enjoyed the saltwater pool and the saunas every night. The breakfast was good but I never tried their lunch... we were always off on an excursion during the day. This girl kept me moving all day long... amazing how many places we went to! I did take one excursion with Sasha (annoying travel agent at front desk) to Sevastopol. We left about 1000 and returned to the hotel around 1900, cost was about $100. It was a good excursion however we did not buy him lunch, he ate bread in his Volkswagen van and waited for us to eat. This trip I took a chance on this girl and only visited her... it worked out, we are now a couple. Soon (within two months) I will visit her and her family in her home town of Zaporizhe. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/15/2009 4:35:16 AM   good luck cooper jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/16/2009 10:33:03 AM   Yeah Mini Cooper - the "travel agents" name was Sasha. And the entire time we spent talking to him he was looking my lady up and down like a piece of meat. I dob't know if he was so dumb as to think that we didn't notice? Or perhaps didn't care? I assure that neither was the case. Giving brief consideration to the notion that I might be a little oversensitive to it, I asked my lady afterward if she noticed and was unconfortable as well. She replied YES that she felt like she was a steak being eyed by a hungry DOG! Every time we came from breakfast and simply walked by his little desk - he did the same thing again. W found a vry nice excursion company and went on many as well, went to Sevastopol, to the caves, to the Swallows nest, and by cable car to the top of Ei Petri, etc. and these excusions, while not private (though sometimes they were as when we gathered we were the only members of the group) they had fully qualified tour guides, were terrific and much less than one quarter the price he charged. When my lady made this point to him he again spoke condescendingly that if he had been aware that money was a problem for me he would have suggested something much cheaper! What an ass. The truth was I wouldn't have spent a minute with his guy on an excursion while he stared at my lady in inappropriate ways. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/16/2009 3:07:28 PM   Also about the Vremna Goda, it is of course a health facility originally built by medical people to provide the services of a "sanitorium". My lady really got into this as they offered all sorts of herbal baths and had a cosmetologist (doctor of cosmetics) give her things like facial rubs and masks. Most of the stuff was vary reasonably priced and she really enjoyed it. And it did make her skin very smooth though some of the soaps they sold her (in mason jars) specially concocted for her skin smelled funny (in my opinion). She LOVED the place. As for me - somehow I wrenched my back shortly sfter I got there - I had a lower lumbar injury that I have had from time to time before. Generally it takes a week or two and a lot of ibuprofen for it to go away - but its something I've learned to live with as about an annual occurance. But this time it especially irritated me and we cancelled an excursion because I was going to make it. At the Vremna Goda they offered a fullbody massage to last for (I think) 90 minutes - and it was to cost aound $30. I arranged it before wrenching my back and nearly cancelled that too but then decided to go through with it. I had my lady tell the massues about the back problem and where it hurt. And after the massage (by a HUGE older Russian lady) my back was FINE! The pain was gone - and didn't come back! That made Yalta even more enjoyable! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 7:34:51 AM   Jet, I have suffered years from a compressed spine, lower lumbar injuries from football, hockey and riding motocross in my youth. I've bounced on and off different medications for years, sometimes the pain is so severe it feels like I'm being stabbed in the spine by a large Kbar. 2 months ago I bought an inversion table, I figured I wasted enough with chiropracters, medicines etc. It now has been two months without pain, I sleep the night through I walk bend stoop run again and enjoy life without pain. 20 minutes in the morning 20 at night, I can't say enought about these damn tables. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 10:30:49 AM   Nasfan6, Tell me more about the inversion table? Do you hang from it? I have lower back pain that happens every few months and it takes months for it to go away. I'm curious about this "inversion table". Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 10:38:29 AM   Jet, I'm embaressaed to say that I have never had a professional massage before! I now wish that I had received a massage when I was there (Vremna Goda), because then my lower back was in terrible shape! I just endured the pain (as always). I'm interested in Nasfan6's "inversion table" maybe it could help my back problem. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 1:45:17 PM   I don't have a back problem, but I have inversion boots. They are boots strapped on to my lower ankles with hooks attached. I then hang those hooks to my pull up bars. Every other day, I hang upside down and every other day, I do pull ups. E-mail me at ragingbull77@yahoo.com and I'll send you a picture with me hanging upside down. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 2:48:31 PM   I meant lower legs, not lower ankles. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 3:37:56 PM   Mini, I'm using a Teter Hangup. I got to a point of no return with pain. Spinal epidurals, that would last for a month and I thought we were on something. One Dr. wanted to fuse, I said screw that. I got tired of taking ultram and Loratab for pain. So I figured I'd give it a shot. Two days into it I was moving freely without pain. I swear by the damn thing now. I don't even get coffee first I go to the table and at Night before bed I'm on it 15-20 mins. If you don't want to spend big 400 bucks for one, shop on ebay or craigs list. I got mine off of craigslists for 95 bucks who couldn't handle being inverted. Worth testing I bought the F7000 model which is obsolete now. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2009 3:43:49 PM   My inversion boots cost $65. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/18/2009 10:31:37 AM   Inversion boots are fine for some people. Also those people who have difficulty at first with inversion can do it more gradually with a table. You can invert at different degrees first to adjust to blow flow etc. I looked at boots first RB, but what I found at the time were more expensive, so I just went through ebay and craigslist and found a great table at a cheap price. Both will accomplish the end, at least I think they will. I just know hanging upside down for 40 minutes a day has relieved me of years of back pain without medication. There are also other benefits besides spinal decompression with the table. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/18/2009 10:33:02 AM   Also in Crimea I really liked The Kichkine Hotel. Sits on the bluffs, your balcony looks straight down at the black sea, 2 meals and other services are included in the price. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > traveling to Crimea
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