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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Project Nikolaev Author Post juan Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/22/2009 11:38:06 AM   Hey guys, I've been reading your posts for a while but only now I decided not just to share my experiences but also to invite the interested to what I called "Project Nikolaev". First things first! My past Experiences. I have so far travelled to Ukraine twice. The first time I went to Kharkov and was a complete waste of my time and funds. I can honestly say I was another means to their ends. I planned for the whole trip myself but I had to deal with the agency about the meeting. The girl said she was going to Moscow for work and wouldn’t be able to answer my letters. Anyway, I got there safe and only 2 days after my arrival the agent finally managed to sit the girl in an expensive restaurant with me. It all started very wrong and I confess it’s part my fault to let it flow that way. The girl lied she could speak English well and insisted in keeping the interpreter (I should’ve stopped right there, I know). The meeting last for about 40 minutes, I paid the bill (of course), the girl; along with the interpreter, gave me a ride back to the hotel and in the way the interpreter asked me for $100 toward her fees. The day after the interpreter called me saying the girl didn’t want to see me again because I was too young (30). Alleluia! That was in fact the best news I had since day 1 there. That same night I went to a club and met a lovely girl which I’m still friend of. Nothing apart from a few French kisses happened but we travelled to Kiev together; where she lived, and she introduced me to her friends and I had a great time in the last 2 days. I just mentioned this bit because I believe with all my heart the “scammer girls” are a drop in an ocean of gorgeous kind girls. My second trip was about 3 weeks ago to Simferopol where I met a lovely girl and it was all different. Again I planned for my trip but this time around as I stepped out of the airport she was there waiting for me. To summarise, I had a great time with her for 3 days, she speak fluent English, she never asked me for anything; like going shopping, we went to simple places like the zoo and the theatre (I didn’t understand shit!) and in the end she said she would love to come to visit me and keep our “relationship” going. And better, she was always honest with everything even confirming she was writing to another few guys who she was interested. Basically, she is sweet! Not exactly what I am looking for, but still an adorable girl. Yet in this trip, in one night after my “friend” went back home, I went to a small but cool motorcycle bar where I met another gorgeous dark-hair girl who knew about 10 words in English. We spent 4 hours together, kissing, drinking and trying to find out what the other was saying. She writes me every 2 or 3 days until now (using online translator) and wants really badly to meet me again. I’ll rephrase it this time! I honestly believe the “scammer girls” are just a drop in an ocean of caring, honest and beautiful girls desperately searching for someone to love and take care of them. All you gotta do to be this guy is: don’t spit, don’t carry a beer can all bloody the time, always wear something clean and if you don’t smoke better. If you found this difficult you better review your concepts before travelling 6,000 miles. Ok, now the invitation. As all of you I also dream of finding THE ONE and live happily ever after, and after a self-revision of my priorities I realised this was very much on top of them. Therefore, I’m going to quit my job and move to Nikolaev for a few months at some point around Sep to Nov-09. I don’t intend to work there (apart from a few clients I’ll pay a visit on behalf of a friend). The idea is to rent an apartment and live a normal life while socialising as much as possible. Go to the gym, dancing or violin classes, church, social events, charity work... anything at all that can put me in touch with as many girls as possible. Perhaps some of you guys are already doing that but the invitation is opened to anyone with similar ideas and objectives. Just so you know, I’m early 30s, very much into sports and a healthy living with background in finance. Ok guys, I’ve written too much already. Anyone interested just let me know and we start from there. Armin(Bonddd) Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2009 4:25:33 AM   That's a great idea. But... <I honestly believe the “scammer girls” are just a drop in an ocean of caring, honest and beautiful girls desperately searching for someone to love and take care of them.> Yes mostly all the girls are honest for you because you are 30 and local women need love from younger people and it doesn't matter if they are local or foreigners. But the same women want only money from old guys looking for "fresh flash" and it doesn't matter if these guys are local or foreigners. Sorry, it does, scamming foreigners is much safer))) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2009 11:04:38 AM   Charity night? What a joke! What did you teach them, how to lie effectively, or carvings of kangaroos from driftwood? What an imbecile. juan Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2009 12:39:16 PM   Bear55 Thanks! I'm not interested in money. The idea is to advertise myself to as many "people" as possible. (People means girls) :-) I've already started 3 charities, so maybe that's not a bad idea. I can leave something good there. Thanks again for the idea!!! Armin I see your point mate. But there's one thing you cannot forget. Women are interested in men for different reasons. Yes, some search for a rich guy they can scam, but most search for a guy how can support them not just financially but also emotionally. In my short 30 years I've seen gorgeous girls with inside-out-looking guys just because of their personality. Regardless how old you are I'm absolutely sure there're plenty of girls there interested in spending time with a travelled and smart man, with a different mentality. Nasfan6 I think the purpose of the forum is help each other around, am I wrong? So if you don't have anything intelligent to say you better not say anything at all. Any constructive critic is welcome though! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 2:27:32 AM   juan wrote, "I think the purpose of the forum is help each other around, am I wrong?" Well, God bless you, I appreciate your positive outlook. Plenty of men posting here are helpful and sympathetic. A small number (who post very often!) make a sport of personal criticism, insults, sarcasm... mostly to each other, but noone is immune. Unfortunately, many of the topics get crowded with flame-messages that have little or nothing to do with the topic. It seems to me, that people like me who are crazy enough to look for love in the FSU are taking on a pretty steep challenge. Lots of men get hurt (plenty of stories in this forum), and there's a lot to learn. I keep reading the forum, because I hope I can learn, get some support and inspiration, and be helpful to others. It is really frustrating to wade through all the negative posts, but I keep sifting for the pearls. I haven't yet been to Nikolaev, and it is difficult for me to stay abroad more than a few weeks at a time, but I wish you good luck with your project, and hope that you will keep writing here about your experiences. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 10:51:41 AM   Juan you are naive and misguided my friend. Scammers are just a drop in the ocean, that's too funny I can name a bunch of guys who have come here, Danny included that were stupid enough to be scammed. You go ahead and communicate with the intelligent people like danny and you be the next one burned here for lack of common sense. Two trips to Ukraine, I did twice that many in one year, sorry I'm not nearly as experienced as you are. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 11:37:33 AM   I think his point is only a small % of girls are scammers. I'd say 99% of scamming is done by 1% of girls. When using agencies and the internet dating that 1% is more noticeable but if you mingle with the average population you’re more likely to have better success. I don’t think it’s misguided but common sense. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 12:37:18 PM   Well the dictionary of the English language clarifies, no mention of it being long distance or face to face, a scam is: scam informal • noun a dishonest scheme; a fraud. • verb (scammed, scamming) swindle. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 3:51:15 PM   (i got scammed , you call it scammed i dont . i met a straight to the face theif , i didnt post pack money or presents or get ripped of having her show me her city .if you like to call it scammed well fair enough , but find me another listed scam the same) How about jamie1864, just for starters, on this forum only recently? He travelled to Nikolaev, came face to face with a, so called, thief and couldn't stop crying, whilst admitting, that he was scammed. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2009 5:29:55 PM   "ben2006......99% of the scamming by 1 % of the girls couldn't be farther from the truth." So what are you saying? All I know is I live in Moldova and I have yet to meet a girl who would scam, sure there will be some here but we aren't talking about 50%, 20% or even 10% or 5% of girls actively scamming guys. When I say girls I'm not talking about only girls listed on dating sites. The point juan made was he found regular girls not on dating sites honest and keen to spend time with him. There are other ways to meet girls than interest dating sites! Now I agree with you its important to define scamming. I think the definition of scamming differs between girls in the FSU and western guys. Most good looking girls i know here would consider that because they are girls then of course need some help from time to time (and to be fair its true, they don't earn alot and often have to help their family). And they would expect their man to help if not sponsor them and if the guy didn't she would question if he really loves her. Not every girl is like that, there are some that would never ask for money. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 12:22:19 AM   Ben please define sponsorship for the new guys. The ones that never ask for money are there but you have to weed yourself through the maze. I would say scamming consists in upwards of 35% of the women communicating with men from the FSU maybe pushing 40. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 1:38:18 AM   Nasfan I assume you mean 35% of woman who are communicating via the internet ie dating sites? I don't have experience with dating sites so maybe you are correct. But those on dating sites are only a small percentage of the population of available girls in the general population. Sponsorship this is where a guy basically pays for the girls accommodation, bills etc and provides money each month so that she doesn't have to work. And in return the girl remains his girl friend. For some girls they take pride in it, they consider themselves too beautiful to work. I have a good friend who is 23 she meant a rich russian guy who is almost 50. At first she didn't want to meet him as she hated the thought of meaning with this old guy and told him this. But because he treated her with respect and brought her things she now calls him her boyfriend. She basically accepted the offer and asked for how long do you what to do this. The guy explained a few years (by the way he is married) and that all the other girls he has had like this got a car, apartment and good job and even he found them a husband. She said ok thanks but I can find my own husband. So now he is paying for her to learn to drive and go take some university courses as well. She just has to stay with him when he comes every month or so and not go with any other guys. Shes says sure this is easy. The ones I have meet who would ask for money in my experience are the ones you won't find on dating sites they are to busy working to support themselves. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 7:24:27 AM   Well danny how did she get access to the 20 oh excuse me the 30k she supposedly ripped off? You had to tell her you had, which is basically bribing her to be with you. She surely wouldn't have been with you for looks or character. I mean really how did she know you had all this money unless your blowhard Aussie mouth told her hmmmmmm? Ben explained your relationship above, nothing but a sponsorship, pay for play pretty discusting in my book, but as ignorant as you are that's the only way you could get a lady. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2009 6:00:44 AM   Danny you using character in a sentence is truly the definitive of an oxymoron. Your story is still full of crap. You did it the same way as the rest of us guys did. You're nothing special nor is your partnership anything different than many of us have already. Though with you inferiority complex, you try to make your feeble world something special. You need a long couch session to tell the shrink you made and still are paying for your purchase. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2009 10:05:44 AM   That's your story doesn't make it true. Hell you've lied about a ton of other things, Along with me insulting your partner. Which you know is a damned lie, but you will continue to lie all the way. It comes back to haunt you danny, it's the same old crap out of your mouth. You are too damned dumb to find a woman on your own. Gee on craft night did you happen to have the kiddies help you with your Pitts S2? nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/2/2009 7:54:46 PM   You're an idiot. Show me one post or one thread where I ever insulted your partner danny you lying moron?? You can't because I have more class than you. I'm smarter than you and I'm not a profuse liar like you. The word moron is assaulted nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2009 11:44:57 AM   The question still stands liar. Provide on post in any thread where I have insulted your partner. Just one liar. You have accused me of this, provide proof. Also maybe you should rethink the definition of the word "whore." You've bought and paid for every woman you have had in your life, it's the only way an ignorant uneducated man can get a decent lady, unless herself is uneducated, uncultured and uneducated. Also the word is petition you ignoramus. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2009 1:13:40 PM   The question still stand liar prove it. You dodge the question because you are a cowardly bastard. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2009 7:29:24 AM   Go ahead buy the ticket I'm game nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2009 10:23:30 AM   One I don't have your email and I don't need to send you my passport to vist Australia. Two no one is arguing here but you causing trouble digging up five year old posts an agitating others. Three I believe this story about as much as I believe in the Easter Bunny. 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