My first encounter with an FSU lady. Not in the FSU area, but she is from Ukraine.
I will not mention names, as she had to see two other guys that week, prior arrangements, so that was cool.
We spent 5 days together, apart from when she had to see the other guys..... but she kept that to a minimum, but did feel obligated to see them, as they had flown in to see her.
Anyway, we hit it off fantastically. She is stunning looking, a beautiful, soft and happy personality, and very intelligent.... speaks five languages, with excellent English.
Total success, I am back home, but we will meet again ASAP.
No scamming this time!!!! Guess I am just very lucky!!!
In the short description of your meeting I see some red flags.
She had to meet 2 other guys in one week...what is cool about that?
You'll recieve no respect from her if you think her meeting a couple of other dudes is cool.
What makes you think you're not just one of those other guys?
A stunning looking Ukrainian outside of Ukraine...seriously...what's she doing?
Good point, Kirkland. It doesn't mean it isn't a positive story. The ending has not yet been written. Then again, the two guys could have been Gecko and Beemer.
My first piece of advice would be to ignore everything Kirkland wrote. He was not there, he knows nothing of your time spent with this girl.
She told you about meeting the other men and she kept those meetings to a minimum. Seems to me she could have spent those five days with either of those two other guys, but she didn't, she spent most of that time with you!
You feel you hit it off fantastically and you are already planning to return to see her.
I say congratulations!
Of course you must keep your eyes open and always think with your big head. Obviously she has many options, so do not be foolish or ignore ANY red flags that you see; that does not mean to overreact to something and immediately think scammer, I simply mean to not let your interest and hopes in this girl cloud your judgment as things progress.
You were there and you know what happened and the connection you and the girl made. Of course she could have an agenda, but there is also a chance that she is sincere and possibly even interested in you.
Don't let irrational negativity ruin what might be a real thing! Stay smart and pay attention, but allow the possibility that she is genuine!
I would agree with TS. It may be that she was just being polite and considerate to not break a prearranged date with these two other men. If she didn't hop into the sack and only met at the cafe, then she may be a very classy woman.
I would say that you might want to go back to see her (and hope that you are the only one she will be seeing).
Personally I wouldn't make a big deal out of it; but there is a way to bring it up in conversation to see where you stand. Tell her that you know that millions of me write to her but you do not care about that because you are the best man and you will do everything you can to make her happy, etc etc.
Eventually you will want to hear form her that she is corresponding with you exclusively (and see if you can verify that by seeing if she removes her profile from the dating website, or gives you her personal email rather than the dating email address, etc). As stated, good luck, think clearly, look for the standard red flags.
Sure forget everything Kirkland says...including the question:- "what's she doing outside of Ukraine" being so hot and all?
Ok strike that question off...at you peril.
Great advice from twiceshy...stay smart and pay attention etc....very useful...could be a scammer maybe not...mmm.
Great that she spent the whole 5 days, except for the little time with the other guys, with you.
What's she doing either side of those 5 days? When her visitors are not around?
She can tell you anything she wants. In my experience just cos she says it doesn't make it so.
does she have a job? if so, how was she able to take all this time off.
why does she know five langauges? is she a travel agent? does she teach? or does she just want to be able to communicate with every foreigner who speaks with her.
her meeting with other men is a bit of a warning flag. did you know she had to meet with other men before you made your trip? if she know of this, it would of been nice of her to tell you this before you bought your plane tickets. if it was me, i would have done this. because i would have respected other peoples time and money.
ha ha......... no second thoughts. Wow, there is a LOT of negativity here. Guess I have just been very lucky.
She works as an interpreter, travelling ATM. Going back to Ukr at some stage, but no hurry!! In Mexico at present.Great girl, really smart and smoking hot.
I was over there anyway, and so she had already arranged to meet these guys when I said I'll come down for a few days. We met on my first day, and really hit it off. But she had made arrangements, so meeting these guys was doing the right thing by them, a plus I would have thought, but you can take it any way you want I suppose.
Wants to come out to visit, sounds cool, but I want to meet her over there first, just better for my kids that way.
I am pretty laid back about the whole thing, as I am with life in general, so I'll just take it as it goes.... think my attitude makes her miss me even more lol. But I certainly am not trying any tricks etc.... she is genuine, no doubt about that.
Way to go Nick. Sounds like you've met a real and classy lady. Be honest with her and hopefully she will do likewise. Talk about everything, even the negative things that will crop up in a relationship.....What makes you angry? How do you deal with your anger? What might I do to make you angry? What should I do if you are angry?
For serious relationships to flourish, open constant communication is essential, all the time.
Nick,
When are you returning?
How are you corresponding in the meantime?
Very happy for the both of you.
Will you ask her not to communicate with the others?
Good Luck!
I remember your story Nick............glad you had a great time. Do you mind me raising a question?
What is this...how did you say," Great girl, really smart and smoking hot." doing in Cabo. The party town, drinking and sex adventures from many from southern ca. Want to hear what I think? She is living in a place that is paid for by guy/s that visit often. Couple even while you were there. Talk is cheap, who knows what she told 'other' guys. I do hope I am wrong but this whole thing about this ukrainian girl living in Cabo makes no sense. How do you know she is alone this weekend or next weekend? Remember you can come and visit her for a short time.....I could go down there every weekend...............sorry
Well, as I said .... you can interpret her behaviour in any way you want, that is up to you!!
My philosophy on FSU dating is that you need to be looking in the same class range as the women you dated back in your own country. I simply don't believe any decent woman from any country in the world will date a man who is uninteresting/unattractive to her just to either get out of her country or get some cash. Note i said DECENT woman.
I am not being arrogant or a smart ass or whatever, but I was married to a miss Australia for 15 years, my last GF was Miss Poland a few years ago, and I dated a very well known French actress before that. I don't have any difficulty getting women at home, but it just so happens that I adore Eastern European women.... they are intelligent, interesting, happy and beautiful.... four characteristics that 99.9% of Aussie women lack.
This lady is dead serious about me, I don't have any doubts about that. I don't believe I am stupid, and my take on this is her behaviour is obviously genuine.
But for all the input and advice of you guys.... thanks. I have taken it on board, and will keep it in mind. I am not so stupid to ignore what is obviously years of collective experience on this Forum.
ok Nick. I didn't know what a stud you were. congratulations! It seems like you are really into titles. did you every marry someone because you loved them?
For what reason do you adore fsu women?
Do you just want a bauble on your arm?
You seem to have fallen into the trap so many men do...have a woman not for what she can bring into your relationship but what you want others to think when they see her with you.
I really would be more thrilled about being with someone I'm crazy about.
Being with a hottie is unimportant to me, because romantic relationships involve so much more than genital copulation or posturing with a beautiful woman.
Sex is a fun way to share a connection, but once you've done it a few thousand times, romantic love still remains as the best part.
It's been my experience that a totally beautiful woamn is always going to be a temporary affair.
Do you mean "totally beautiful woman" in the physical sense (looks) only?
I would think totally beautiful would be beautiful in every sense of the word,
looks and personality.
Nick, Miss Australia, Miss Poland, well known French actress...and you seek advice from this forum?
some pretty amazing assumptions here. Anyway, just wanted to share a positive story here cause there seems to be sooooooooo much negativity.
FSU women are generally way cool. I like their style, their smile, most everything about them. Ukraine girls nearly knock me out, they leave the West behind...... hmmm, where have I heard that before.
Feel free to send cheap shots, gecko.... its water off a duck's back mate. My whole point in the follow up was that I am NOT into these girls because they are hot.... I can have and have got plenty of those at home. I like them for everything else they are... very different to Aussie women.
Hey Texasdude,
of course I would seek advice!!!!
Hell, I have never even been to the FSU!!!
There are guys on this forum who have been to Ukriane/Russia 10 times, so of course I seek out their opinion. I do not need advice on how to relate to a woman, but I can be scammed just as easily as anyone, so knowing what I am getting into is vital. This forum has given me a great insight into the whole scence, fantastic stuff!!
Lots of negativity here, but that is cool.... clearly there are lots of traps out there, and we all need to be wary of them. So again, thanks to all your advice.
As for me, the lady is coming out here, at her expense, first two weeks of July. So, all good!!