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chrish14

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	Send: 12/10/2003 8:56:13 AM

just wanted to say that i am getting so ticked off, due to the apparent large amount of scammers that interfere with these sight. I am a genuine bloke wanting a genuine relationship. I realise that there are many 'nice' women out there, it just seems impossible some days to read a letter without having to think of the other persons true motives. Sometimes i know that i am getting paranoid and that makes me apathetic about the whole thing. I can only draw comfort from the fact that i cannot be alone in these thoughts.

Nynemc

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	Send: 12/10/2003 11:09:05 AM

You are far from alone. I find it really annoying to get a letter back from a girl and immediately ask myself 'is this real'? What are some indicators that it is real? Guys who have had good experiences, what are some of the signs that high levels of suspicion can be downgraded to just being wary?

olegnay

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	Send: 12/10/2003 11:24:29 AM

1. decline letter if you have any suspicious. 2. report to the site administrator. this site has nice tools: letter template, create a letter template with standard text on suspicious letters. you may want to ask some specific questions there without wasting time. 3. remember ladies are afraid of scam too. 4. remember fist letter to you may be a well prepared introduction letter from the Lady. Nothing is worng with it. They ask people with good English do it for them sometimes. But if her second letter is the same style it should make you think... If you feel that she did not even read the letter before she replied - it means she doesn't care. 5. remember this site do not charge per letter. you can email your personal info to the ladies. we do not edit it. we do not care if you continue communicating via personal email. you can see from the profile if she has private email, or with the agency. 6. we can always go, deliver flowers and take photo at the moment of delivery. if she is refusing it.. it is suspicious. at least our agent can see if it was her. order this service at www.russianservice.com 7. read this forum, use search. it has a lot about this subject. 8. ask customer service it is 24X7

chipscher

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	Send: 12/10/2003 2:13:26 PM

Good advice Oleg. I have heard on several other forums not only about scammers, but that men in other countries are only looking for a housewife or slave. Just as we are suspicious of scammers, they are suspicious of men with alterior motives.

chrish14

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	Send: 12/10/2003 3:40:29 PM

cheers for point no 3 oleg. This must make me sound like a neanderthal but i had only considered the women questioning our character and suitability, not as to whether we would be scamming them. Also good point Chipscher about why men want a wife. I have reassured some women that i have contacted as to why i want a partner, i know that is genuine, but do they? By me mentioning this maybe that is not a good ploy? What do reckon.

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/10/2003 4:03:00 PM

Chrish...being honest with anyone you write to can only stand you in good stead......follow your instincts......and the advice gained here of course!!!

chipscher

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	Send: 12/10/2003 9:21:58 PM

A lot of ladies have come out and asked me "if we get married is it ok if I go to work, or do you want me to stay home?". I tell them that the choice is theirs. If they do not want to work, and just enjoy life here, that is ok, if they want to work, there are plenty of jobs, and that is ok too. I say that the household chores will be done by both of us (if she cooks dinner, I will do the dishes, etc.). Most ladies are surprised by this answer, as they were not expecting the freedom to choose what they wanted to do.

chrish14

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	Send: 12/10/2003 10:33:10 PM

my sentiments entirely chipscher, only in the uk they are not allowed to work until they gain full citizenship when they come over on a fiance visa

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/11/2003 1:02:15 AM

Chrish sometimes not being able to work for the period of the fiancee visa is a big help,as it gives time for the big adjustment to our culture.Support for your lady is always vital but even more so during the initial 6 month visa period..........anyway don't the wedding plans keep both occupied enough???.........:))

chipscher

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	Send: 12/11/2003 1:05:23 AM

I am going a different route than Fiancee Visa.

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/11/2003 1:24:00 AM

Smuggling them in is illegal and dangerous Chip!!!!!!!

chrish14

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	Send: 12/11/2003 5:43:31 AM

when all is said and done, any lady that decides to come over here to see me will have the choice of making her own mind up. At the moment and forseeable future i have the means to back this statement up, but nobody knows what's just around the corner. Millionairs can end up in financial trouble, and if your woman is loyal to you then i would imagine that she would want to assist you in anyway that she can, of her own choosing. I would question the womans worth if this was not so.

crash

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	Send: 12/11/2003 8:06:59 AM

I have similar concerns to some of you regarding how my fiance spends here time in the U.K until we are married when she can work if she wishes. I have asked her, "what will you do all day when I am at work?" She replies that as long as she is with me every evening and weekend she does not mind, she will have the simple things in life like t.v, music, HEATING! I think her learning to drive quickly is an important goal and maybe as gladiator says, the adjustment and pleasure of living in a new country will occupy much of her time? I remember going to live in Los Angeles and the first two years were just like an amazing holiday for me(the next three I spent planning my escape, but thats another story!) What does anyone else think either based on experience or conjecture?

ospry1

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	Send: 12/11/2003 11:11:56 AM

I think that this is the womans choice but remember they come from a totaly different culture. They will be in a different and starnge place and they will need to feel secure. They will need to have financial security so get them a bank account with their money in it and help them to adjust. Then later if they wish to help with the income by working let them if they wish to stay home with the children and the house remember this is what they most desire. I think it is the greatest thing if a woman wishes to stay home and care for the family. I am tainted though my x-wife ran off with her boss.

chipscher

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	Send: 12/11/2003 12:26:38 PM

Smuggling is illegal? So I can't just crate her up in a fed-ex box? Darn, now i gotta think of Plan B. Osprey, why not start your own business, and then you can run off with your employees!

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/12/2003 2:47:24 PM

Chip you never fail to amaze me with your lateral thinking!!.....:))

chipscher

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	Send: 12/12/2003 5:00:40 PM

Well, I try to think outside the box.

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/12/2003 6:05:44 PM

You got my vote.........

chipscher

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	Send: 12/12/2003 10:12:52 PM

woo hoo, got 1!

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 12/13/2003 7:41:57 AM

for sure.....if only for perseverance!!

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