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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Back up plan. Author Post N Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2009 2:23:33 AM   Hello. Im new here. Maybe someone can help me with some questions rearding meeting a Ukrainian woman?? How do you arrange a back up plan? Does the second (or third) girl know that you will visit them only if it doesn’t work out with the first one? Does the first one know that you have a back up plan? How soon do you usually visit someone from Ukraine? Is two months too early? Artinshki Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2009 12:10:00 PM   N, I'm on my way to Ukraine for the 6th time in about 10 days. I haven't met the one to marry yet, but that doesn't mean the trips haven't been successful because I have met a lot of nice girls and Ukraine is a great place to visit. I'm not sure what you mean by a back up plan but I wouldn't go all the way to Ukraine with a plan to meet only one girl. I think even the most honest and sincere ladies are writing to more than one guy, and since you are paying, it makes sense for you to do the same. Letters don't mean anything anyway, you have to meet the person. Even when you make plans, it doesn't always work. I once went to Ukraine to meet a specific girl, and when I got there, she was working a lot and didn't have time to see me more than twice, even though she knew I was coming well in advance. I had been to the city before so I had connections and was able to meet other ladies, but you just never know what is going to happen. Also, I've found that Ukrainian girls generally don't like to plan in advance, so that makes it more difficult. If I could do everything all over again, I would not start writing until I was within a month of my trip. Any more and you are wasting money on letters. The girl will be more serious if she knows you are ready to come over. And she is more likely to know if she will be available a month out as opposed to three or four. Make your plans to visit, then you can tell that to the girl. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2009 2:19:34 PM   The following is just my opinion and not directed at anyone in particular. Of course the women will know you are meeting more than them. How could you tell #2 or #3 that you will only meet with them if #1 does not work out? There are some folks who shop and shop and never find the one. This may be because they are not serious about being serious. It could also be because they are lousy corresponders or lousy at judging a woman's character or that they do not know what they are really searching for. Some do it because they are playing the field for fun. Put the plan backwards. How would you feel if a lady said she can see you for only two days because she had to go to another city to see another man? What would you feel about her? What about the future between you two. Obviously I do not condone going to meet more than one woman at a time, if you two are really serious. Yes for sure have the phone numbers of others just in case but to actually set up a seris of dates, to me means disaster. None will take you seriously and you will end of shopping and shopping. Yes you will have a lot of fun but you will always be shopping. Is that what you want? How soon you go depends, to me, not on time but the quality of your correspondence. Within two months would be the soonest. Do you only email? Do you have her phone number and call and talk? Have you upgraded to video like Skype? What is the quality of your correspondence with this one woman? Any typical red flags? How do you correspond? Do you think you both are serious? Are you both honest to each other? Do you exchange photos with each other and are they in everyday situations? Do you both ask good questions and do you both answer them? Have you both discussed what your criteria are for the "one" for each other? Are you being serious? Can you be serious with this lady? Are you attracted to the photos or the person? Hope this helps. Everyone's situation is unique; there is no one or no one right answer. Armin(Bonddd) Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2009 3:42:27 PM   <Does the second (or third) girl know that you will visit them only if it doesn’t work out with the first one? Does the first one know that you have a back up plan?> Of course they know, but your task is to make them believe that each of them is the only one. That's for all women in the world.:))) N Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2009 7:00:18 AM   Thank you for answers. baron555: The girls i correspond with only speaks russian. So i can not speak with them on the phone. Red flags? I don't know. I am 36 and one of them is 23. She is also very beautiful. So i guess my chanses are low. But i don't know if it is a red flag? But of all the letter i have got she seems to be the most sincere and real. So i am a little thorn inside about her. I have also spoken with her on Vkontakte. So i know there is no picture misuse. But what do i risk? I only pay for letter translation. And if i travel i arrange my tavel myself. I am from Norway so going to Ukraine is very easy. I know that there is a lot of "dishonest" agencies and persons. So i think that only a meeting will tell what is true. And i agree that the best is to meet only one woman. But if i am going to know her through letters first it will take a lot of time. And if the meeting shows that we are not a match i will have to start all over again. It will take a lot of time. But the back up plan. I find it difficult. A lot of thing can go wrong. And we must understand that most people i Ukraine has feelings also. I don't mind having fun. But I don't want to play with other people. It will be great if more people will share their view on back up plans, and how to do this in a way that you don't hurt others or yourself. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2009 12:53:43 PM   N, I offer one man's view... I've only made one trip for the specific purpose of visiting an "internet girl," but I had already met her a few months before. I made all of my time available for her. (It was not a serious situation between us, but I like to be a man of my word.) I can understand men wanting to make a plan in case something goes wrong, especially when making a big investment. My cheapest trip to Ukraine cost me more than 1000 Euro, and it is easy to spend a lot more than that. Personally, I don't like to deceive anyone, make promises I don't think I can keep, or hurt anyone's feelings. I have two thoughts about your specific situation. 1. If you really feel close to this girl, and your trip will not be so expensive, why not take a chance, and plan to see only her? 2. Have you thought deeply, about meeting someone you can't talk with? You write well in English - if you can also converse, there are plenty of ladies with some English, and a surprising number who speak it better than most of us on this forum ;) If she doesn't show up, or you soon realize that you are not right for each other, you can still have some fun without "playing with other people". Here are three ideas: A. Explore! I don't know whether you have traveled there before, but it is fun and good education to acquaint yourself with the country. Women aren't everything. When I travel in Russia or Ukraine, I have fun. When I make first meetings with women there, it is work. B. You are corresponding with more than one woman (though unfortunately, none you can talk to). Make some friendly correspondence with girls you CAN talk to, nothing serious, no promises. If your special girl doesn't work out, you can call another and say, "I'm in town for a few days, would you like to meet?" C. There are dating offices in Ukraine where you can show up with some cash, and they will arrange short-notice meetings for you. Somebody mentioned one a day or two ago, on another thread (sorry, I forgot which company). I have done this at the elenasmodels office in Kyiv. But some firms will charge you a lot: elenasmodels (and the other one recently posted) charge only $40 for each such meeting. I came to the elenasmodels office near closing time on a Saturday, and met two very nice women the next day. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2009 1:33:57 PM   Have you ever spoken to this woman? I know she doesn't speak English, but have you ever heard her voice? YOU CAN learn a few Russian phrases and you too can then laugh. I purchased Prompt 7 from eBay for a low price. It is an excellent program and a lot cheaper to translate your letters yourself unless you like spending your money at the agency. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2009 3:18:59 AM   > YOU CAN learn a few Russian phrases and you too can then laugh. yup! always good... olya still laughs at me trying to pronounce something. maybe one day i'll be able to roll my rrrrrrrrrrrrrr's? then again maybe not... at least my 'r' doesn't sound like an english 'r' though anymore... i never had a backup plan last summer, didn't even think about it. in hindsite i was probably a bit stupid but got lucky (or very unlucky if you consider that i live in kyiv now... hey ho...) personally i would go to meet one girl if you are serious, but make sure there are some other girls that you could call and meet if you had to. worst case, there's plenty to do (in kyiv at least) and the pevo is cheap... :-) GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2009 2:54:26 AM   The best way I found is to use the local dating sites. They are free and it shows which girls can speak english or any other foreign language. About two to thre weeks out write to some girls and say you are visiting soon and would they like to meet. If you put up a picture that isnt overly horrifying you will probably get 5 - 10 phone numbers. Of these you may get to meet 2 - 3. If you dont need them all the better. gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2009 6:50:01 PM   scheduling more than one woman never worked out for me. girls have a sixth sense. and when they say they 'understand'. they do. they understand that you are not her soulmate. thats what they understand. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Back up plan.
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