In a previous post, I told about a lady who sent me some travel agent e-mails. Here is a reply I recieved from the travel agent. Now, bear in mind, this is for a lady to come to the USA from the Ukraine. They make it sound like it is a sure deal to get the travel visa.
"You are welcome in our company!
Travel Company "Flamingo" emerged in the
travel scene in 1998 as
a dynamic tour operator. "Flamingo" was
founded on the principle
of service to tourism industry brining
together a group of
professionals with a wealth of experience. The
tiny company of a
decade ago has grown to become one of the
largest, most respected and
reliable tour operators of Ukraine.
We have established the partnerships with clients
worldwide. Our continuous commitment to
maintains our leadership in the market. We
continuously invest in the
state of art computer systems for one reason -
serve our clients.
Multilingual consultants trained in the best
European traditions and
technique of reception services staff the
Flamingo Ukraine Travel network
of offices throughout Ukraine and in Moscow.
We will gladly give you all the necessary
information about a trip to
the United states of America.
A trip to the USA implies the return ticket,
tourist visa, insurance
for the period of the stay in the territory of
Usually it takes about 21-28 days for the tourist
visa being issued.
We must admit that it's possible to obtain the
visa to the USA for
the period of time from 7 till 90 days.
Meanwhile we try to find the most comfortable and
flights for our client.
The whole trip to the USA including the tourist
visa, return ticket,
medical insurance, notary attestation of the
papers, required at the
Embassy varies from 1450 USD till 2100 USD. The
exact amount will depend
on which air lines our client prefers.
We will be able suggesting you some airlines if
you send us the eaxct
place of destination.
As soon as you indicate the exact dates
and the exact place of
destination we will send you the exact itinerary
of the flight and the
exact amount of the whole payment for the trip
The documents your friend is supposed to collect
medical certificate, vaccination record, the
the place of study or work, Ukrainian and
We will provide the client with the visa, the
insurance and all the references required at the
Embassy and Police.
As soon as the payment will be made, our travel
company will be able
to start the trip arrangement to the USA. The
means of payment,
acceptable in our company:
- using the Western Union transaction system
- using the bank account of the Travel Company.
If you have any questions, please contact our
All your questions will be submitted.
Certificate of conformity: ZHA034679 dated 28
94, Artyoma St.
Tourist Agent of the Travel Company,
Does anybody know anyone in Ukraine that can check this out for me, or a way to investigate?
Notice how the only payment method is Western Union or money transfer to their back account. This leaves no recovery of your funds if you have a dispute. No protection for you at all! A good and honest travel agency will accept credit cards. I suspect the girls and the agency work together on this scam.
That is what I thought too. I compre them to another travel agent I have dealt with, Virgina Agency in Yoshkar -Ola. They have a full website, you can e-mail the agents at the virginia.ru (or something like that) domain, and they took credit cards. I am going to reply to the girl that I have gotten an e-mail form the travel agent, anbut I hope she understands if I check withthe US Consulate to investigate. See what she has to say about that.
I asked about no website (as you can see in the original post, they say they have "state of art computer systems for one reason -
serve our clients.
claim to Our continuous commitment to
maintains our leadership in the market."
Now they come back to say that a lot of companies do not have websites. I pointed them to one travel agent in a small town that has a very extensive website. I also asked why they do nto take credit cards, and I have not gotten a reply back. Hmmmmmmm SHould I sent them the 1500 bucks? ha!
For what make a investigation ?
This agency write , that it is at the Ukraine. But it’s e-mail address is email@example.com
Ru – means Russia.
Pochtampt.ru – it is Russian free of pay server, and you even cannot make your site on it.
Which serious agency will have such e-mail address ?
Second - no one serious agency will us Western Union transaction system.
May be such situation – ( the most likely, it will be ) if you will agree with this agency, they will ask you send a money, and tell that start make a papers. And after month they will tell that embassy wasn’t give visa to your girl . Money don’t come back.
And they even wasn’t give a phone.
K.....you read too much into the endings of e-mail addresses,just because the ending is RU does not always mean that the sender is from Russia If you notice my own e-mail address is also a free Russian server...(front.ru),but I am based in the UK.The main reason for me using this server was a generous mail allowance.
getting visa to USA is totally different story from the tickets, travel and so on. if she gets visa you will buy tickets for her here in USA. she will pick it up the airport. travel agency flamingo is nothing but a person arranging travel for you. some travel agency, consultants take money to prepare for the embassy interview. it is needed sometimes. but, she will never get visa if she cannot proof that she is secure in Ukraine, and has no reason to not return to the country.
Try it. she will be refused 99 % . you will loose only 200$ max.
the best way, and I think you can find the same advise in this forum ( it has been discussed a lot):
-travel to Ukraine, meet her there. If it works out between you and her. make all necessary arrangement for fiance visa. Consult immigration lawyer before you go. so at least you spend money for your won trip and fun.
then when you return apply for fiancee visa for here. it may take 2+ month. but she will get it. and you will have a chance to try out for few month. if it doesn't work she will have to return home.
I have decided a long time ago she was a scammer. This agency thing was a big hint, but when she asked for holiday presents, and even gave me a website to buy stuff for her on, well that sealed it! Again, I must say this lady did not come from Fiance.com.