I have been writing to a couple of ladies age 20-25 and would like to visit them this autumn.
I would like to hear about your experience when it comes to sex...
Is it likely to have sex on the first visit to the girl, or are they more "old fashioned" over there?
I have not mentioned the subject with the girls.
Are you talking about sex on first date leading to lasting relationship or just want to get laid and come home and boast. Sex on a first date i would never trust any woman who would sleep with a man on the first date. If you just want to get laid then just get a decent looking hooker.
He didn't say sex on the first date (night), he was questioning sex during the first visit which might be a week (ish).
janne, that is a question that many of us have asked ourselves in the past and there is no definitive answer, you really will just have to find out once you get there, it could be 'hate on first sight' or things will start off as expected, develop as each day passes and before the end of the week 'hey ho', but, were it to happen on the first night, well would you consider her to be 'wife' material?
But, if it doesn't happen during that first visit then it could be for a number of reasons, good or not so good, and you would need to evaluate her whole attitude towards you, let us know how it goes without going in to 'those sort of' details.
having sex on the first date shows you have no class. even if she wants it, waiting till the next night shows that you are in control. having sex on the second date is common if it is mutual. at least in my experience.
figis, why do you assume it is him that is the user and abuser? do you think that women don't like sex? maybe she is using him? not all women are victims.
I have always heard "Good Girls Don't", and will hope this remains true. I am going over next spring, and will travel prepared, but in no way am I going over there looking, or expecting. Both of us are looking to see if the connection exists first.
Yes, I said first VISIT, not first date.
I mean, if I have been seeing the girl for a week over there and "nothing has happened", does it mean that she is not interested, or is it just a "tradition" in FSU that women don΄t have sex until they know the man very well.
Whatever, When i first visited Ukraine my only desire was to meet my girl and see how we got on. If we ended up in bed then fair enough, getting her into bed was not my prime desire. I am not sure whether this guy needs to just plain and simple ask the girl about her views on sex. What i did find out that the girls when you meet them in the flesh show a completely different personality from when you write and chat online with them. Best thing to do is just turn up do what you want to do and if she wants you in bed she will have you.
They are women, like any other. If they want to sleep with you, then go for it. If you know anything about women, you will know for sure if the door is open, and you will also know why these women behave one way or another.
However, if you are seriously looking for long-lasting love, I would not have sex with any girl until it is very clear that the relationship is very serious and exclusive.
If a serious girl sees that you want sex without a serious commitment, she will think that you are another "sex tourist." These women are fully aware if the behavior of sex tourists.
Jan
What you ask depends on many things the only fact I can go off on what you have said is that the women/girls are 20 25
I can almost guarantee you this if you are much older than them, they will almost certainly be expecting to turn it up on trip No1, probably 1st night if you ask. If you are the same age approx then perhaps they will hold back a while. If they are drop dead gorgeous in their profile photos they will almost certainly turn it up pronto also because thats more than likely what they been doing the last 5 10 years with others.
It appear from what I have seen here the real stunners that walk around like on a cat walk are 95% of the time by themselves and shopping with quality priority. That more than likely means they are kept girls or on the game.
We see a lot of good looking guys holding hands and marring fairly plain looking girls I keep saying to my Wife why they not have a better looking one. Her answer is she has her looks on the inside the others are empty on the inside and are for sale on the outside
This place is one big market everything has a price. Not all but an awful lot of the pretty brigade are for sale simple as that. Maybe not as an outright prostitute but they become cold inside and competition is fierce and makes them mechanical.
Regarding are they old fashioned about sex NO way !!!!!!!
Unless New Zealand is extra modest this place (FSU) is very liberal in my observation. The majority are not shy and will speak their mind on this subject openly. You must remember a lot of marriages and relationships start and continue in living environments we are not used to. Kids get married and live with their parents for a number of years and some until the olds pop off. There is not a lot of privacy in these apartments also. From what I have been told they start very young here also, 13 14 is common for girls. But there are plenty of exceptions to this also I am know of one :-)
I mean, if I have been seeing the girl for a week over there and "nothing has happened", does it mean that she is not interested, or is it just a "tradition" in FSU that women don΄t have sex until they know the man very well.
met a lady from nikolaev in odessa on a first date and after day 3 together in hotel she blatantly asked me why I do not want sex with her!!! I was shocked :)
..but then again I try to meet a lugansk lady in kiev and she requested she will stay in her own seperate hotel room so I have to make two hotel bookings, one for me and a separate one for her. I thought the request is odd but then again I think maybe she is trying to protect herself from sex tourists which sadly does exist. But then again it could be that she has no intention of relationship and have boyfriend/husband back home in lugansk and just want to blow my cash shopping in kiev. either way I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
another advice don't spend lavishly on the ladies on first meeting/date. If you don't lavish her on first date and she is still keen to see you again then your much closer to proving she is not after your cash.
while we men are all crying about lady scammers, there also exisit men who just want to go over to FSU and sex with these ladies without any intention of relationship with them, so if any of them have experienced this they will want to protect themselves from such men.
If an FSU woman has sex with you its for a reason, and that could be because she's genuinely interested and wants to "bag" you for relationship/marriage or, if shes a scammers, to get you or keep you spending. So, far from being traditional, sex is their currency, at least as far as foreigners are concerned (if she wants sex for "fun" she will find a local man).
I don't see how any woman can consider a man potential good prospect if said man isn't experienced enough to float her boat in the bedroom.
Retaining your virtue is usually only important to the virtous. If a woman won't put out...move on.
The first night is probably pushing it a bit but first trip is fine. If she won't put out she's not that into you and has ulterior motives.
Woman enjoy sex just as much as men do...fsu women are no different.
If she's an adult, chances are she'll think like one.