I need some weather forecasting from those in the know. Miss Kiev (from my recent trip - thread present somewhere) has asked when I can make it back. I think I'll be able to go again before the year's out, but I really don't want to catch the "-20 degree" winter. Sooner is harder, later is colder. Can anyone tell me when the winter really hits Kiev? When's the 'dont go after this date' cutoff?
Don't worry about the winter too much, indeed it's quite an experience for us Brits who rarely see snow. Some days are warmer than others but unless you're going to walk very far whereas your ears might start feeling it, as opposed to taking a taxi, then no worries.
If this is to become a regular thing then, next time there, buy yourself an authentic Russian hat complete with ear flaps, my one is made of mink and it's brilliant, it's like wearing a tea cosy. My cold weather jacket was past it's sell by date so for a trip to SPb back in February I can recommend Millet's for buying a thermal (anorak type) jacket complete with hood etc!
But when does it start, well I was there early one November and it was snowing most days, that was earlier than usual for snow so say sometime during October things change for the colder.
I was there from Feb 14 - 24 this year. The weather was always +1 to -1 during the day. Snowed two inches one night. It never stopped us from walking around and doing things. Also made for nice snuggling after a long walk outside.
Well that’s what 75% of the New Zealanders back home think. That Western Media machine is sure a powerful weapon!!!! They truly believe that - send pics back home and they say "wow - it’s hot and sunny there" I say "yea - like plus 30 is common"
We heading home in a week. Appears the summer is on the wane already - leaves dropping and yellowing in parts.
Never been here in winter - but wife say it’s got its good points - dress accordingly and no problems indoors alway snuggly warm (unless they can’t pay the gas bill again???)
Hope to experience a spell of winter one year soon.
I was in Kiev around New Years. I was dastardly cold (for this former Arizonan), but as the Russians wisely say: Thee's no such thing as bad weater, only bad clothing. i.e. Dress appropriately, and you'll be fine. And the weather gives you lots of excuses to pop into cafes for cofee or tea.
"This part of the world is bleak. From the minibus, during the 40 minute drive, we looked out on suburbs where people walk with their heads down".
This guy was in the same city as you, you won't beleive it by reading his article. Probably made up the part of him getting kicked out of the hotel, sounds like BS (or he deserved it and I can understand that). Anyway I'm here in Moldova, mid thirties and sunny almost everyday.
In UK as soon as a cold wind from the east blows Siberia gets the blame, people truly believe that Siberia is always cold when in the summers it's bl00dy baking :)
Ben
Looks like that article gone. Do you remember Fair Go - Kevin Milne - TVNZ did another "Intrepid Journeys " series. He was the host and started in Lvov (good place to start and did Chernobyl (of course) and then Kiev. It was on a couple of weeks ago in NZ - so we not seen it, but the neighbours emailed us about it. He was here for Ukraine’s Xmas. Believe it or not - it sounds like it was a very positive report and he gave a big thumbs up to the people and their culture etc - and mentioned how many beautiful women were everywhere (not difficult to notice after the motley lot back home)
Maxirat, i used to love that program. Of course someone from fair go would give it a fair go. Good to see!. The article is still there but the link oddly doesn't look. Try searching "Chernobyl: On a power trip" on the NZherald site.
Read it - very odd - seems recent too. But it sounds good for the ah !!!!
I have never exp or seen any aggression towards anyone like he says happened to him. If you ask my wife and 90% of her friends - about life now compared to pre 89 - they will say b4 was better. They had systems - they all had work - everything was clean and organised - free health - education etc etc
My wife gets a little upset when people say "oh – your people must be so happy not to be UNDER soviet rule now"
I still say "under soviet" sometimes and she very quickly corrects me "we were not under soviet - we were with soviet ways"
Read it - very odd - seems recent too. But it sounds good for punters back home to read ah !!!!
I have never exp or seen any aggression towards anyone like he says happened to him. If you ask my wife and 90% of her friends - about life now compared to pre 89 - they will say b4 was better. They had systems - they all had work - everything was clean and organised - free health - education etc etc
My wife gets a little upset when people say "oh – your people must be so happy not to be UNDER soviet rule now"
I still say "under soviet" sometimes and she very quickly corrects me "we were not under soviet - we were with soviet ways"
For the non-Kiwis reading this thread, Kevin Milne has hosted a TV show called "Fair Go" for the last umpteen years. It's a consumer rights programme, riding into battle on behalf of those who feel that they've been ripped off, and, while most stories aren't huge in financial terms, it has had some spectacular successes over the years.
It was quite weird to see the Herald article and Kevin's "intrepid journey" in the same week. Kevin basically ouldn't say enough positive things about Ukraine - he absolutely loved where he went and the people he encountered. Of course there were things that were not so brilliant, especially at Chernobyl, but overall the impression he gave was that he can't wait to get back there, and next time will take his family.
We're being spoilt at the moment, because on Friday nights we also have British TV presenter Jonathan Dimbleby on a journey through Russia - tonight's episode took him to Volgograd, Samara and Kazan, before visiting the infamous "Perm 36" gulag/political prison. Our fellow posters from the UK will already have seen the whole series, as it was made last year, but it's a fascinating look at the Russia that most people never see.
Muzzy That is kind of like asking what the weather will be where you live 2 months from now. Could be nice could be nasty. You can go to a weather site such as http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayIntlNORMS.asp?CityCode=33345&Units=engl ish which is the page for kyiv seasonal weather history and you can put dates in to your hearts desire but that still does not guaranty that is what it will be when you hit the ground there. But you can see what it has been in the past.
Once you get to that page select the option monthly and it will give you lows and highs for the warmest day of the month as well as for the coldest if you scroll down you will see several graphs showing temperature, bar pressure, wind speed and wind direction. Further down will give you a calender view listing temperature and precipitation, and further down a spread sheet. Then you can go to next month or change the year and view that month in a different year. You may have to delete any spaces left in the url above to find the right location. Looks like January 2006 was the coldest month for the last few years.
Ive been in Kiev in dec and jan and the coldest it got was -8. I get lots of strange looks walking around with just jumper and gloves but coming from Australia its not that cold, i have more of a problem getting hot in the buildings which are overly heated. Canada is far worse that Kiev in Winter.