Hello all, I have been staying in touch almost daily with Irina since my trip to Ukraine in May. We spent four days together and I do believe she is the one I have been hoping for. I am solicting advice as to the current situation, since this was my first trip and I am a newbie at this. First, she does not speak any English so our contact has been e-mail, I have called her once using an Interpreter. We discussed her finding an english tutor before I left Ukraine and I made it clear I would pay for the classes. I also promised to return on Sept 22nd her Birthday.
Problem, every time I have inquired about the tutor she has not found one. I am trying to set my travel dates to see her again and now she says she cannot take time from work, only a couple of days maybe. While we both agree a week would be best.
Adding to this,
She does not want to spend a week in her town, Kherson, says its boring, nothing to do.
I offer for her a trip to St.Petersburgh and Moscow which my Father and I have been trying to plan anyway. I offer her, her own room and the fact that we will have a guide/ interpreter everyday. She does not want to use an unknown Interpreter. AHHH! Ok now what?
She just informed me today that she has found a tutor and has had a few lessons, also that it is very slim chance of her taking any time away from work. So what do I do now?
Am I having a cultural problem here? Thanks.
Mike
I myself am paying for my girl to have English lessons and i can confirm she is having them. A lot of girls put travel down in their profiles as something they like doing. Their idea of travel maybe different to someone from the west. I asked my girl if she had ever flown and of coarse she has not.
I have found that i have to do absolutely everything for her, she has not got a clue about how to get a passport and the same goes for a visa, it will be another experience getting her on a plane also. I think maybe alot of girls have a problem taking the relationship from correspondance to real life as maybe they have been messed about in their life by many men. I have found that my girl expects me to do everything for her.
As for it being a cultural thing i think that as long as you show you will stand by her and you have money to spend she will eventualy start to do what you want. It just takes time, it wont happen over night.
ND2 A lot of people in Ukraine feel lucky to have a job right now and will be reluctant to jeopardise it! If you havnt already booked anything!! consider Prague for a long weekend, say, Thursday to Tuesday! that way she wont be taking a whole week off, I done this with a lady for our second meeting (Also from Kherson!!)it was very successful.Let her book it!! They will arrange her visa and flight etc and the hotel (Raddison) worked out better value than anything I could book on the internet from GB.
In regard to the interpreter!! are you sure her feelings are the same as yours?? if they are?? this shouldnt really be an issue for her.
If you take her at her word and she is sincere about you then your best bet is spending a couple days or what she has in a location somewhat close to where she lives. You cant see St Pete in 10 days let alone 2 even without transportation to and from. Maybe a couple days on a cruise ship depending on your budget and what you like and can find that can be done in a couple days. Spend the rest of your time in her city if she will agree to give you her evenings. You sound like a gentleman and if she has already spent 4 days with you I would suggest asking if you could get a two room apt and she would stay there with you. If not she will probably want to return home early so as not to be on the street late and you will hardly have any time together. If she does not want be intimate I am sure she will have no problem enforcing it.
However you need good communication beforehand to make certain that I do not have time and I do not want to stay in Kherson does not mean I do not care to see you just send your money and dont come. Sorry to say you are at a point where there are two voices in your head and they are not saying the same thing and you are too far away to get a good handle on what is right. I would say the odds are not in your favor but I hope to be wrong. But on a positive side I met my wife on such a venture. The lady I went to see did not have time to continue meeting after several dates and told me this on Friday night and I met my wife on Saturday night and after several more visits and a year later we were married. good luck
"She does not want to spend a week in her town, Kherson, says its boring, nothing to do. "
Sorry but this is strong red flag that she is not serious about you.
Her apparent difficulty getting time off and lack of urgency in arranging english lessions, while not particularly damning on their own, do help paint a picture of someone who isn't genuinely interested romantically . I would certainly not send this woman any money.
Mike do you think Irina could learn English at home? There're simple courses of English called EShKO, my friend learnt English using them, but it's really necessary to dedicate some time to it every day and I do not know if Irina really wants it.
she does not want to spend a week in her town? probably it means she doesn't want to be seen with a foreigner. meet her in odessa. it is only 3 hour bus ride for her.
it is a little odd you would choose a girl that you could not speak too. thats not normal.
but if she is interested in you, probably she would be teaching herself english. probably she is hot and feels she doesn't need to do anything for you. Good luck! but it sounds like your little head is leading your big head
ND2 If she was truly interested she would welcome a visit. She would also partake in the study of English if she is sincere in her desire to move to an English speaking land. Since there is nothing to do and it is boring -- she would have plenty of time on her own to qet acquainted with the language. The are many options available. My lady friend spoke virtually no English in March. When we first spoke on the phone all she could say was, "Hello (hallooo), I no understand." We both laughed and she was very embarrassed about it. Now we have routine conversations on a daily basis. She is self taught using a program she purchased.
I would give this girl an ultimatum. In other words, 'S--t or get off the pot.' Let her know she is a candidate. And the polls are still open. Sounds to me like she is either is really not interested or she is just isn't ready for this.
BTW - It is possible to meet 'the one' on your first visit. As long as you do your homework first.