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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Still pretty new Author Post scottyg9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2009 9:18:12 PM   Hello everyone. I joined about 3 weeks ago and have been chatting to a small handful of ladies from the FSU. I am slowing weeding out the ones I feel are scammers or that are not compatible. There are a couple that I am very interested in. I have a few questions if someone has a moment or two. First is neither write or speak english very well they tell me. They have to have their letters interpreted. One told me they rather not correspond outside the agency because they interpret our letters and she feels comfortable about that. She also said she doesnt have her own PC and likes going to her agency to read her mail. She did give me her phone number but said that she will need an interpreter in order to talk on the phone with me. Ok to the question does this sound normal? I have read alot in here about how if they dont want to leave the agency then they are just after your cash. But have also read that if they give you personal info then they could be for real. Next question. How do I go about the interpreter thing. Should I look to let her set that up. Should I look to set that up. How much does things like that cost? Is it weird talking through someone to someone your trying to get to know. Next question should I try and suggest something that you can translate to use instead of useing her agency. I havent broached the subject to the second lady but I can only thing she will say the same thing about the agency she belongs to and having them interrupt for her. Any help I would be most grateful. Scott Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2009 1:25:59 PM   scotty, It might be said that the "jury is out" regarding why your lady won't leave the agency but, and on the subject of interpreters, if you want to test it out then tell her you can, or have, sourced an interpreter on the internet for when you meet, if she 'kicks and screams' insisting that the agency have interpreters then you will have your answer, the agency have her in their clutches, she might be revenuing out of you also, and the agency are going to bleed you for as much as they can. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2009 1:33:41 PM   I would say its dubious but not totally damning. To be honest a genuine girl would usually be quite to keen to move away from agency communication in order to save you money. Tell her you have a russian friend in your country who will translate for free and see what the reaction is. JohnJohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2009 1:36:27 PM   Scott, This is a political not a practical problem, I met my first wife through HRB, she actually had registered directly with the website through their russian portal, she wrote to me and chatted with me online and used a translation SW program to just translate the letters - to be honest it wasnt perfect and there were a lot of comedy translation mistakes but it didnt get "edited" by a agency interpreter, I actually think it was much better because the interpreter will often change a girls worlds to make it "read" better in english or be more acceptable to what she thinks the man wants, I've noticed a BIG difference between letters written by girls via agency 'terps and directly using translation SW, the letters the girls write directly always read much more like a lovenote should, whereas the terp letters always come across like some womens literature romance diary :) The reason why your girl says she doesnt want to leave the agency may not be her fault. the agencys can put some pressure on the girls to "keep them in the system" as they will tell the girls that they helped the girls find their man and they need to make money off the services to stay in business, the girl will always feel obligated to use the local agency for a number of reasons, firstly as mentioned the agency owner acts in some cases as a "matchmaker" if they are a old school marriage agency then they will give a lot of guidance and advice to the girls and also give them a sense of safety about writing to or meeting strangers, also they wont want to upset the big marriage agency in a small town - most men who write never show up, something like 3/100 i was told by a agency owner, and then things may not go to marriage - the girl won't want to lose a good relationship with a agency in case she is refused future representation. Any women certainly wont want to admit to wanting to abandon her agency especially if the request is made via that agency correspondance, but you can be reassured after things worked out with my wife she wanted to dump the agency asap. if you can find a girl and write to her directly then you are in a much more controlled situation, but you can't always manage that. you just need to keep your smarts and recognise how genuine the correspondance feels or whether its a canned agency letter. any good agency that senses you will come and use their more profitable services on a visit like translators, apartments etc will want to keep you sweet and not mess you around, any agency that is just in the letter writing business will just be out to milk your correspondance, again you have to use your own common sense. the PC thing is actually true in a lot of places, web cafes can be quite expensive so if the agency is letting them answer letters for free on a PC then shes going to want to stick with it. I know you read a lot of people who say agencies are all teh work of satan, but I have met several very honest agencies, sometimes negative feedback can simply be a annoyed 60 year old unhappy that the 17 year old hottie doesnt want to jump him, othertimes the complaints are genuine - a good agency will help you and you will learn when a bad agency is taking you for a ride. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/29/2009 1:55:53 PM   I’d have to ask the question: why are you in correspondence with a handful of girls who you can’t really communicate with effectively if can can’t either phone them or chat with them real time. (Instant messenger etc). The fact that the girl doesn’t want to leave the agency as she feels more comfortable there is fair enough. But this could just be a line. If she gave you her phone number then that’s a start. However I’m sure pro’s have realized by now that western men know that every fsu woman has a phone. If the number she gave you in the first place turns out to be the number of the agency that’s a red flag. It’s always been my opinion that if you want to date an fsu woman then the only way you can do so, other than going over there, is to do it on the internet. With that in mind there are plenty of dating sites with fsu women on who can speak English, have a phone and internet connection. As far as I’m concerned the function of an agency is to extract money from western men by selling “services”. One of which is translation. Call me cynical but why would a girl want to leave her prospects of future partner in the hands of a third party? scottyg9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2009 12:50:35 PM   ok I have another question. I was talking to this one lady and we took it away from the agency she sent me some pictures later and in one of them I noticed she was wearing a ring on her ring finger. I took it as she was married and dropped her. I am talking to another girl and she recently sent me some more pictures and she to has a ring on her ring finger. Is this something common? Ladies wear rings on their ring finger in FSU or are these ladies married? There was no diamond just a ring. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/30/2009 11:12:15 PM   Usually, in russia women wear a plain band on the ring finger of their RIGHT hand as an engagement/wedding ring. On the LEFT hand, it is not a symbol of being attached, and can be a deliberate signal that she is single. FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 6:37:44 AM   He-he! This is funny! It is funny to see the paranoia of some people. ... the woman was dropped because she was wearing a ring on the photos. No context. Just a ring. Good luck! FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 6:48:56 AM   Read this: http://www.womenrussia.com/wedding.htm baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 7:18:32 AM   What's the agency? In FSU wedding rings are worn on the right hand, not the left like in the Western countries. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 9:49:59 AM   You can use your own interpreter for a phone call. I can give a line on a couple that I know who provide this service. See what the ladies think about using your own. Also do you have photos of each in everyday situations? Does their correspondence corraborate the photos? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 4:34:03 PM   scotty, I went into this with a lot of trepidation. Then after a few wrong turns I discovered what I thought was a legitimate agency. I spent time corresponding to several ladies. Actually correspondance means a two way exchanging of ideas. I sent letters to ladies. And by the time I was fed up with with one way 'correspondance' I found another means to meet someone. Now, after finally continuing to push on the first I started to receive emails and phone numbers and private information. Too little too late. Or that it seemed I was impatient. However, impatience led to my having a quandry of all of a sudden I had too many to deal with. It seems that -- and I must assume -- that the first party (agency) I dealt with wanted to make sure I was not just goofing on the idea. I can only assess that they withheld information about their ladies until they were sure I was serious about it. Well I was. And that led to my frustration and seeking another avenue. Then when I finally decided to travel and even in the weeks preceding I started to get emails and personal information. And sure as shit - they were real phone numbers and real ladies. But after over two months I set out to meet someone. Then I am surprised that the first group actually was serious -- most of them. So I would not be discouraged that in the first few weeks you do not get any real information. Show that you are sincere and that you are not just looking for a good time. It took almost two months before I received anything concrete. Remember, you are not the first and probably one of many if not hundreds that inquire about a particular lady. Do not expect instant results. Show you are real. And in time, those who are sincere - as long as you are, and they can tell - will reveal themselves to you. Don't play games. Don't make claims. Don't pretend to be someone you are not. In time you will discover someone. Those who are sincere will give you a means to contact them. A phone number for sure. Trust me, she has a phone and if she is interested you will get her number. If you send letters through an agency ask her for her personal contact information every time. Eventually she will get it. If you do not get her phone number after a few requests she is either not interested or it is an agency game. However, I thought this too. And when I indicated I was travelling, the flood gates opened. It's hit or miss. Do not be discouraged if at first it seems they do not want to give you info. Give proof that you intend to travel to meet. Commit yourself to travel if you desire to meet someone. And make sure you talk on the phone first. Establish phone contact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 4:38:54 PM   and when they say they do not have a personal PC, it is probably true, I have discovered that internet cafe is for many a means to use internet... but it is almost sure she has a cell phone -- not necessarily a home phone -- but probably my lady friend at first had to use office for internet -- many must go to inet cafe -- give her a chance if she states this -- baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/31/2009 4:58:23 PM   As Julian stated and I want to emphasize, early on, like in your first correspondence, state that you are serious and you intend on eventually meeting. Just keep harping on that in your correspondence. No need to make any plans but let them know you are serious about this (assuming you are) and you intend to meet. It took me about three to four weeks to get phone numbers for some. 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