I hope someone can help me shed some light on a few things. I had been talking to two women for over two months in two different cities but not really that far from each other. I thought we were becoming fairly close as we exchanged detailed letters about our lives. I was skeptical to even find one woman I liked here on this site but to my amzement I found two. Here is what is strange. About 2 months ago, they both stopped writing at the same time for about 7 days. Then they both answered me on the 8th day. Last month one of the women said she was going away to her grandmothers for about a month. When she stopped writing, the other woman mysteriously stopped writing as well. I haven't heard from either of them in over a month. They are both close around 30 years old and each have children and I know they were not trying to scam me as they never asked for anything. They each sent me several pictures of themselves in normal life and some of their kids. I have the VIP membership and can see how many letters they receive and both of them have stopped receiving letters. Is is possible they are both the same girl using two different profiles? If they weren't real how come they didn't try to scam me? I hope someone has a logical asnwer to this as I cannot come up with one. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
Martin Just open another Forum moniker under thew name "Jack Cass" Ha! Ha!
But I have a real question not just a laugh. How is is possible for a woman to know I am writing on this forum when my moniker is different from my name in my posting? A lady questioned me about some advise I gave on this site sometime ago and she is probably reading this too. My multi-city junket sems to have met with the same fate because the "Iron Curtain" is back up for 2 of the ladies I was planning on meeting. Didn't think I was misbehaving, but they must have put the cart ahead of the horse in their dreams and egos. Curb your tongues "Magpies",,,, I'm looking for advice and giving warning that this Forum is not as anonomous as you might think.
Really so threatening people via the internet is a crime also, at least the last time I looked. Spelling lawyer should be easy but I'll give 9 to 5 odds you couldn't spell attorney even though I already have.
Though I have no loss of income or stress so I guess I can't collect damages. What a joke you are becoming danny.
i am !! funny , reliable , pleasant , kind ,easy going ,adventurous., normal , strong , happy , statable , creative , cleaver , positive ,fun ,well manered average australian financially secure man . that cant find a single suitable lady with no children living in australia . i dont spend my time with my mates drinking alcohol i prefer outdoors the beach scuba diving sailing hiking swimming picnic . and wish to do all things with wife and child
Bear555 your english skills have improved. I haven't heard the word statable in Ages, though I know you are not danny because he has no respect for authority nor the ability to use statable.
My post was deleted too, Batman. It's puzzling to me what is allowed here and what is not. I said nothing derogatory or even close. I simply asked a question.
"The only stupid question is the one that is not asked."
How can you tell that they are real?
Get on a plane and go find out. In all reality nothing happens until you meet. Even if the communication is cordial in the beginning it may bust out for many reasons. Take your time, do you homework, but be comitted to making the trip.
The flipside to all this is these girls put in the time also only to be stood up with time wasters, morons and dead beats and keyboard romeos who have no intention of making a trip.
Maybe the first question to ask is how do I know I'm real? That message will pass on to the lady that is looking for the same signals that you are.
What an on-target post - important, true, and brief. I hope that men on this forum will read and remember it.
"these girls put in the time also only to be stood up with time wasters, morons and dead beats and keyboard romeos who have no intention of making a trip"
You men here know how that this correspondence can take a hell of a lot of time. Well, imagine for the ladies -- most of them have very busy lives and full schedules, and a lot of them don't have internet at home. Since we mostly correspond with them in English, they are reading and writing in a foreign language -- take a minute to imagine the extra effort involved!
To the present moment, my approach (I don't recommend this, it's just what I've been doing) has been to show up in city X, and send out messages that more or less say, "hey I'm in town, wanna meet?" I have met more than 20 women who participate in the websites, and some of them have complained bitterly. They spend a lot of time writing to men who have no serious intentions, or are really ignorant, stupid or crude.
"Maybe the first question to ask is how do I know I'm real?"
nas is absolutely on target here. The old saying goes, "you can't cheat an honest man." Of course, decent people do get swindled, but I know for sure that the more I am fooling myself, the easier it will be for someone else to make a fool of me. Nobody has ever "led me down the path" without my contributing to the deception, by ignoring the warning signals.
I will say this about it... nas and durak are certainly correct.
I was 'corresponding' with a few ladies. When it was realized I was serious and actually had a plane ticket in hand -- it seemed as though the 'correspondnace' changed dramatically. I'd like to say I wish I approached the whole idea differently. Because some of these women have a very difficult time getting to use the internet on their own accord. Most must go to internet cafe. And then there is the time involved in translation if they are not proficient at your language. Plus there is transportation and time getting there. From talking to some ladies, I realized it is an effort for them to have a dialogue with someone browsing the sites. And since many are "poor" the money and time spent for internet, getting there etc adds up.
It is a vastly different reality for them. So give the decent and honest ladies a break. They have to put in a hell of lot more time and effort weeding out the jerks and losers. They have to deal with many men - some who are just goofing off - in their hopes of finding a mate.
I'm sure many have been jerked around by men in the past. Think about the story of the boy who cried wolf. When the wolf actually did show up, no-one believed him.
This in no way compares to shooting fish in a barrel. It is a shame the sincere ladies have to deal with all of the trappings that go along with this. There is just as much suspicion on her end as there may be on your end.
one more - A lady I was writing to stopped writing. She failed to tell me ahead of time she was going on holiday and visiting "out of the city". She had no way to use internet. About 4 weeks later, after I had been in Kiev for a week I get urgent message. She wants to meet me and spend day with me for Kiev Day. I already made other plans. Even after I returned home she was so apologetic that she was unable to correspond with me for almost a month. It is apparent that the girls at the agency told her all about me. Point is -- it can happen for some unknown reason she seems to fall off the map.
I wont dispute anything from that last few posts BUT ... how ladies sift out the genuine men is fundamentally their problem not ours. Yes sometimes a genuine lady might with very good reason say something or behave in a way that makes her look dubious (she might genuinely not have a mobile phone for example) but really that's just tough - its better to err on the side of caution and overlook the occasional genuine one than to waste time and money visiting a not serious lady or scammer.
I just got back from visiting my girl. She is always on the move, she has to take care of the home cook clean etc, she has to take care of her mother who is sick and lives with her, she has to run her business which takes up her time also on top of this she has me to deal with, i want all of her time and she can not give it to me. Many western men think when they correspond with these women that all they need to do is sweet talk them tell them how big their house is turn up and marry them. It dont work like that, when you turn up to see these women they are not going to fall for you because you write nice letters, it is the same as here, she has to be attracted to you, you have to make her feel good and that involves money and over there why not these girls work hard for next to no money. They will want you to prove to them that you will stand by them many many women have had husbands who cheated on them so they have trust issues. The mail order bride thing is a myth, there is no way these girls will ever commit after a few letters and a single visit. It takes many visits and a lot of money. The only way to find out how real they are is visit them and be prepared to be knocked back. They have the same emotions as we do and if she dont like you it will show in the way she behaves. Many women get castigated as a scam by men who basicly know next to nothing about these women and the life that they lead.
I only visited my young blond Russian hottie MOB once and I don't give her much in the way of money. I can only guess she will give up her nice life, come here and use me for a Green Card and then scoot.
There are many ways to determine if they are real and money should not be involved at all.