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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Rosetta Author Post Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 10:43:53 AM   Right, if I'm going to commit to this, I suppose I might as well attempt Russian (I always was a sucker for impossible challenges). I'm planning to print a cyrillic/latin alphabet and sticking it on the wall so I can study a letter per day - russian names on stickies on objects around the house etc. Still, sooner or later I'm going to have to get a course. I was wondering, anyone know if Rosetta Stone's any good, or if there's a better alternative? Those who can speak/write the language, how did you learn? Cheers all :) GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 11:36:11 AM   I picked up a lot of russian just using the local dating sites. A lot of the language is personal conversational stuff. Took me 3 or 4 weeks to pick up a fair bit. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 12:29:13 PM   I have given up trying. Spent a lot of time in the country and started 6+ years ago on the FSU journet and now married 4 years to my Kiev wife. I am in Kiev now and spend 2 - 3 moths here each of the last few years. Picking up more and more - but in all honesty - I won’t learn it proper. To old or to lazy or to dumb ??? They say I have perfect Russian (that I do speak) but without going to full schooling its nigh on impossible. Nas might tell a diff story - but he has more brains than me and I think his wife is a language teacher ??? :-) figgis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 12:43:25 PM   I tried rosetta stone, it is simple to start with but it does not back translate to English. I find it somewhat flawed i feel i could learn quicker if the lesson gave you an English description of what it is trying to get you to say or write. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 1:08:42 PM   there are plenty of free places online where you can learn words and phrases. what little I have learned is from pimslur and being there. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 3:25:14 PM   Rosetta can be very boring an not easiest to use and listening to words spoken can be heard wrong. I did have a few words I thought ended in a sound different than it really was, one was word for lady/women, it ends in a 'na' sound, I was pronouncing it in a 'ma' sound. Best learning is a class setting with a teacher actually talking and being able to correct your speaking/reading. Every now and then I do play my Rosetta still. TopSandwich Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 3:49:07 PM   If your goal is to know a few words and phrases, then you can get that online or with Rosetta or Pimsleur. There are couple of good podcasts for Russian language too. If you really want to be able to communicate, Russian is too hard to do learn by yourself. I agree with beemer, need to have a teacher and/or class. The CD courses are difficult to use alone. I have had the same problem as beemer, hearing the words wrong. Also, it's pretty much impossible to learn the cases and the difference between imperfect and perfective verb forms without a teacher. Sadly, these are not minor grammatical points. You really need to understand all of that to comprehend the language. Much too difficult to do without a teacher. Lockland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 3:55:34 PM   Go to Youtube & you will find free intermediate & beginners courses free in 10 minutes or less: here is what I learn't ya lubluu vas = I love you :) Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 5:59:05 PM   I'm doing the research, and starting to lean towards Pimsleur. I think I was spoiled on my first trip as all of the girls I met spoke fluent English. Sumy was totally different though, as I was completely reliant on translation. At one point, me & my date were in the back of a taxi from Karkhov to Sumy, and I was trying to use this translator app on my iPhone. It was shocking - one of the only translations it did properly was the phrase "this translator's rubbish, isn't it?" It was worth a giggle and a nice smile :) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 1:21:53 AM   Try "Learn Russian in your Car." It is three sets of three discs for a total of nine hours. It says the word or phrase in English and then Russian. You can then repeat it while you're driving or doing other things. I like it because it takes almost no extra time to do it. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 1:42:33 AM   @muzzy, When I was new to the forum, I started a little thread on language self-study: http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&forumid=1 &topicid=4446 (As usual, remove any spaces added by this forum site to the URL) Hope you find something useful. TopSandwich Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 1:42:37 AM   "ya lubluu vas = I love you :)" "vas" is either the formal form of "you", which you would use if you have a relationship that is not close, or it is the plural form of "you", which you would use when professing your love to more than one person at the same time. Probably best not to use it in this sentence. Better to use "tebya" which is the informal/familiar form of you. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 1:34:26 PM   I agree TS and have often heard in songs ya tebya lublu. I prefer ya hachu tebya or Ti ochen krasiva or better still ti ochen horyachnaya! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 1:39:11 PM   "Ya lublu vas" makes sense, but isn't "lublu eta" also "I love you?" TopSandwich Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 2:48:25 PM   "Ya lublu eta" would mean "I love this" durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 3:42:12 PM   Я люблю это (ya lyoobloo etta) means "I love it," referring to something that has not been specifically identified. In a Russian-language McDonalds, this is how they translate their silly slogan, "I'm lovin' it" ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 4:51:46 PM   Darn. And I thought she said, "I love you". I did ask her why she doesn't say it often enough, and she said she was saving it for the right time. Love, I hear is a strong word for FSU. By the way, guys. I didn't say which woman this is or was. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 5:15:52 PM   I recommend "instant russian" by Hodder Education and Pimsluer. They make a good combination, being respectively very intensive and very gradual and methodical. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 5:37:05 PM   Maxi, No my wife says I'm a poor Russian student LOL! Must be the age, the problem is I don't practice it enough, I have learned alot from her and I can understand many things spoken on the Russian channels we have here at home. Peter One question, years ago I played fastpitch softball against a New Zealander named Pete Meredith. Was he famous in NZ because he was the most incredible pitcher I have ever batted against. I wouldn't think fastpitch softball would be popular in NZ? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 6:02:32 PM   How do you say, "I love your money." in Russian? It could be interchangeable for some. Yep, I can be a dick sometimes. Not essentually the same as an asshole, but similar in context. I should get a grant from the gov'ment. A study on the differences between dicks and assholes. Not in the literal sense of course. But as in Russian, some words with different inflections and stresses have different meanings. I mean, there is quite a differentce between, "What a dick!" as it refers to Tin Tin. And, "What a dick :)0, ;) ;) ;)" as said by a special lady friend. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Rosetta
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