Greetings everybody !
I am a new visitor to this Forum which is a very interesting one as I can see. So, concerning the main subject, I have some doubts about this.
As I have noted, most people here are US based. Anyway, do you think some of these ladies would easily go to western Europe?
Do you know personally someone who had good experience in trying to marry a FSU lady and succedded? In this case, is it true that most marriages end up in tears? What to they mean by a husband financially secure? You can be in good shape today, but who knows what will be on the cards tomorrow !!!
Well, I could ask for more, but I`ll leave it for one of these days, I don`t wanna disturb you...
Greetings back, and let me add the Seasonal One's - and these go to all!
No, not all are Americans here, and to answer your question: Absolutely, in fact some prefer to go there. Germany, Scandinavia, France, Italy and Spain are often mentioned specifically, as is Britain of course but this probably for language-reasons only (Sorry Guys, but one couldn’t want to go there for the climate, eh? :). It also seems easier to 'get in' compared to the US but dunno where you are.
'Financially secure' means you're well off to loaded - but that is not what they mean, in fact not at all. What it means is they require you to have a stable income, and it does not refer to the height of your bankbalance. So if you’ve got a job for years already you qualify. If you trade in your Ferrari every year you also qualify, but you wouldn’t be looking for a bride then I suppose :)
But what you need to do, excuse me for reading between the lines that you’re a bit new to this, is visiting www.womenrussia.com. Read the lot, and between loadsa Q’s you also find the A above. Not that I want you to check me (you’re most welcome) but Elena has a nick of addressing rather important aspects which you should know, preferably before you dive in at the deep end. There are other sites as well providing healthy info on this subject, but use any SE to find them I’d say.
You also need to make a habit of verifying the girl(s) you write to by means of various blacklist-sites, especially when she after a few letters wants to swap underwear or is in dire straits because her parrot died. Forget sending money, especially by WU, and start swimming. Choosing the site is up to you, there are with bad and with better reputations (this one’s OK).
Later on you’ll learn you quickly can find out if she’s honest (most are, really) but to find out if she’s interesting to you takes more – and this will prove the difficult part.
Don’t fall in love with a picture and some letters, go see her and make up your mind, and see her where she lives. It’s very romantic to have a first date in the Bahamas but also risky – and, except from expensive, also wrong because the both of you will be in a holiday-mood, hardly conducive for the serious matters at hand. If you only want to play by all means, bonk your brains out then, but in my opinion you’d not have to go so far – in many respects.
After communicating for some time you also will learn you get a ‘feel’ for her, this is your gutfeel talking. Trust this instinct but allow some room for the inevitable communication gap, the gap between languages & cultures. But never ignore this instinct, if something feels fishy something stinks somewhere.
If you’re prepared to invest both time and money in this it can work, and don’t underestimate the quantities of both. Do your homework, set healthy realistic goals and be honest, the rest you will learn.
Greeting Michel....and welcome,as always the advice given above here by Thunder is right on the nail as we have all come to expect from him.
Yes there are pitfalls to finding a bride from the FSU but it is by no means a hopeless task,it took me 4 years to find the right lady,and along the way there were times I felt like giving up.However I am very glad I didn't.You have certainly come to the right place,and the only way to expand your knowledge is to ask.
And while I am here let me send best wishes to all for Christmas and New Year.....may there be many more success stories in 2004
Well, thank you both!! Very thoughtfull insights really. And I will read older posts. I realize how instructive they can be.
I am in Portugal. And let me tell you. No wonder some ladies in the FSU complain about men. Here, we are loaded with immigrants from several FSU countries, mostly men. And most od them do not behave like typical immigrants. They drink their work salary just like some of their local collegues. It is amazing, though I know how difficult is to be in a foreign country in a different kind of culture.
Some run from a bad life to get involved in a frustrating one.
And I wish you all a very merry X-mas and good luck for all of you in your search for a lifetime love.
Where I live, we have a saying: "You can take the kid out of Hialeah, but you cannot take Hialeah out of the kid". Hialeah is a rather poor section of Miami, with a very high immigrant population, and while people do work hard and move to nicer areas, make better lives for themselves, the kid's attitude remans the same.
I was wondering what happens to most of these women once they fly abroad and start living in a western country.
I know a bit about the subject since I was in Brazil for a while and I really got homesick. I mean, everything is rather cool there, but after a long time you start to miss a lot of things you were used to.
I even considered to start a real relantionship there, but I realised it was a waste of time. Women behave exactly like you, guys, described the american ones. I really gave up.
In fact, I like the prospect of finding a more tradicional woman, but at the same time, inteligent and with moral values.
But, as i said, I was wondering about one thing. Don`t you think they will get homesick at some point? Specially, because they came from a different kind of world, as we can call the Eastern Europe.
We know America and Western Europe, today, are quite the same thing, except for some little differences between them, BUT eastern europe is still another world.
Can there be some sort of cultural clash, inadaptation, followed by some kind of frustration? Can that jeopardize a future relationship?
How to develop a relationship with someone, who will probably not be able to talk to you about some matters, not because of ignorance, but because she hasn`t live in the same cultural environment!!!??
Those thing trouble me. It might be a miracle to find a girl who is able to adapt to a different world, without losing her own references.
I am new to this site as well. I am 47 YO, an American and live on the East Coast of the US. I used to be married to real-live Divorce Attorney from Hell, so I went through the ringer on my divorce.
I have found a much younger woman - about 1/2 my age, living in the Ukraine from the AFA web-site. She is of course, very beautiful. I wrote to her then I visted her, and met her family and friends. And started to fall in love with her. Now I am seriously considering bringing her over her, with her young daughter. But, my divorce-from hell is stil in my mind, and even though the woman (a student at the university, she makes $ 20/month) seems earnest and honest, I am very glad to have found a site that seems to deal with this situation,
I have just sent her $ 80.00 via WU - she did not ask for it, but I feel guilty about her living so close to the poverty level. Is this the right thing to do? Any advise would be gratefully accepted. I plan on visiting her in February, over Valentine's Day.
Well I guess you have to ask yourself does she feel the same for you? Does she want to be with you too? How long have you both been together? Do you both communicate well? Will the father of her child give up his rights to his daughter? The good point is that you have both already met, plus you seen her environment and people that are close to her. I don't know if I would have sent money, because she is most likely used to her living conditions. Especially if she didn't ask. I understand the way you feel though. She might start to expect money though and that might not be good. At least you are going to see her soon. Let me ask you, when you went there did you travel alone or did you go with a group. Also do you speak her language? I'm just asking because I am going to travel to that part of the world soon for the first time.
I went there alone. It was the city of Kharkov. I only went to see her, but I did sort of have another Agency on-line if something went sour.
She speaks English very well, she taught it to herself.
I must say that I have been to Saint Petersburg two times before and it sort of spoils you. It is very well kept and you feel safe there. The times I have been there have been very memorable (first in a group, second time alone to meet a Russian girlfriend). Kharkov is not a very nice place, people are very much aware that your are a Foriegner. I suggest you wear very dark clothes (no sneakers or jeans). In both places the "mob" was very evident, although more so in Kharkov.
However, when you are with Ukrainian friends, you feel much safer about things.