This is not the first posting referring to this lady. I corresponded with her as well quite some time ago. She asked to write to her private E-mail and we corresponded for several months and then she seemed to loose interest. She never asked for money. She did send pictures of many trips she made along with her son. I was shrewd enough to know that she was traveling with different people because the camera that took the photos was rarely the same one. If you check the photo properties it will describe the camera used to take the photo. If indeed your statement is correct, she did not receive any clues I would send her money. Like the "Beatles" song said "Can't Buy Me Love" . That is true for both parties. There is an old "Hippy" saying that was on the dashboard of every van and is my campain slogan for the U.S. Senate and relevant more today in the politics than should be taken literally "A$$ Gas or Gra$$,,, Nobody rides for free" a "Oneliner can get you elected in California and 2 years in the Senate makes you qualified for the Presidency. I have a 3 year plan. I watched "Gilligan's Island" too and can speak like a "Harvard Man". "Thursten Howell III" the only father needed in today's world. But I digress with obteuse irreverance
People can change and what was posted could be true. Then again, it could be lies. u791106 should elaborate on his experience rather than make a one sentence statement.
I still don't understand why the moderators let such posts in. What is the utmost importance of who the girl is? This isn't an anti scam forum. One we don't know the circumstances behind such a post.
You can research about every type of FSU dating scam. What is the necessity of posting it here? It creates a singular judge, jury and executioner by one person only. Maybe this guy got rejected by this women. It surely wouldn't be the first time some lady got crucified because she didn't appreciate or want some guys attention. What if the profile is a fraud, but the girl is real, I personally know this has happened from friends in Mariupol. The girl was labeled a scammer, but had been married to a foreign gent for two years and because some unscrupulous agency in Mariupol decided to steal her profile from another agency and use it for their own.(citing a case.)
That is what has really ruined this forum here. Go back 5 years ago and read some of the threads. Profiles of specific scammers weren't discussed, methods were. With the level of moderation that goes on here, you would think the moderators wouldn't allow this. I personally like Oleg and Olga and I think they do a thankless job here. Though this is one situation I disagree with them on and they know this isn't the first time I have brought this up.
I mean this guy wants to join the scammer slayer hall of fame, along with FirstKnight and a litany of other idiots who think they are making some great contribution by posting some womans profile on the forum.
Years ago when I first started I was peppered with scammers. Though the education I received here from some highly experienced people before me helped me identify these situations. When I learned who I was communicating with, ran an email check etc and found them to be a scammer, because chances they were listed on various anti scam sites. I just moved on. Why didn't I post it here? What was the need? They were listed on about every anti scam site available.
Who the person is, isn't a nearly as important as the scam that is being attempted. They are all variations on a theme to extract money from you. On a flip side, maybe the woman asks for money to see how desperate you are as a guy for a woman. That would send a red flag up to me as a lady. He doesn't know me and he is basing our early relationship on his money? Is so desperate that he is willing to part with $1000 for my attention. If I was a woman that would tell me to run for the hills.
Instead of naming the woman, how about naming the scam agency that supports her?
After all, women cannot scam you without the support of the agency people knowing about it.
Nasfan6, have you ever thought that the email checks and various anti-scams sites that name these women came from the same men who try to warn others about, or do you think that God made up the anti-scam list??
Nasfan6 you are correct. Though untangible a persons reputation is all that is real when the race is run. For what ever reason, I was passed over by this lady. I have done the same to others and I am quite sure they have no idea as to why. We all look for relations that to us are what should be. I know of relationships that are viable and are only "Quid Pro Quo" and the couples are quite happy. I seek for something else, just we all have our ideal as to the perfect relationship. It is said you can''t make a silk purse from a pigs ear. But pig skin still makes a very good purse. It is just different.
Rodan, I hope you don't think I'm taking issue with your follow up post, because I'm not.
I've had issues going way back with posting any lady in this forum.
One of the "Great Flaming Wars" started over Profile#####
Specific women don't need to be discussed here because like above that's one mans interpretation. You yourself had another about the lady.
Like yourself, I never understood Quid Pro Quo relationshipse and how someone could be happy in such an arrangement. I too sought out something more. Luckily I found it.
Micheal
Did you just crawl from under a rock, or are you one of the multiple personalities of a particular forum member? He has a relative that specializes in such problems I would suggest you give him a try. His specialty is Bipolar, but I'm sure he can help you.
Instead of naming the woman, how about naming the scam agency that supports her?
After all, women cannot scam you without the support of the agency people knowing about it
Well Maybe you should read up on scam agencys, they are easy to find also. Plus many women operate independant of an agency Micheal. Again this isn't an anti scam forum. Please contact Jim if you want to spend time discussing Scammers.
Nasfan6, have you ever thought that the email checks and various anti-scams sites that name these women came from the same men who try to warn others about, or do you think that God made up the anti-scam list??
Gee I don't know Micheal, Maybe God has his own agency now and he's trying to rub out the competition. Again the point goofball is, since there is this Anti Scam site God created it isn't needed in the forum. Just look up agency scams. Just for fun I hit Google and Agency Scams. Not one listing for Fiance.coms Forum. Amazing.
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I was with her and i can tell you how she works . she doesn't ask for money .
She has a deal with the taxidrivers from the airport , with the appartment owner .
She takes your money to save it for you ,even her mother is in her game .I know
what i experienced and i am embarrasses that i trpped in her .
I am not posting this because she refused me ,i just want to warn
other men not to trap in her fall . I know she did excactly the same
scenario with someone else as she did with me .
Nasfan6,
If you think Jimslists.com is legit, then you must be a person who is easily fooled by a fool called Jim.
Jim, is making money from he's web-site.
Jim tells people that he does this to help guys from not being scammed.
Jim has put a lot of hours into he's web-site and he says he does this for nothing.
Also, Agencyscams.org is another scam name that jim does under.
If any agency wants to be on Jim's gold list, the bank account details are.............
I don't know about the women who operate independant from an agency:
Agency makes money from letters,
Agency pays women commission for each letter,
Affiliates make commission from letters,
Women earn commission from placing man in an apartment,
Women help translator earn money,
Agency supplies Taxi's for socials,
Women/ agency split money when sucker pays for flowers/candy, etc,
Why would a woman operate independant from an agency when the agencies computer system is full of the pre-written introduction letters/ rubbish that is sent out to all the suckers.?
Go to a scam site called foreignladies.com. Check out this scam site, the money, it says it will pay affiliates for letters. Your buddy Jim@Jims agency scams thinks this site is a bit dodgy, but if the sucker looks long enough, the site is full of scammers from A Foreign Affair, even using the same profile# as AFA. The director of this crap site is Joe Nail. Joe hapens to be a employee of AFA.
Joe hasn't paid Jim.
So there you have your agencyscam list but thanks for your trouble for placing all that information above.
I agree with nasfan about this. Of course, anyone can post the identity of person or profile if the moderators will accept it, but I don't think it's a best use of this forum.
There are several ways this can go wrong, and unjustly damage the reputation of a (reasonably) innocent person.
For men who have had a painful experience, isn't it better to post about what happened, what we learned from it, and how we'll take better care in the future?
I have posted details of women here myself but only where a) I had evidence to support my claim and/or have had contact with other men involved with the woman and b) a search by all the normal means had drawn a blank.
In one case I posted that I had "reservations" about someone and didnt post any further information until I had other people contact me concerning the woman in question expressing exactly the same concerns as I had with her (unprompted by me).
In the case in question I had strong suspicions that the woman in question was a director of the agency she insisted I used to correspond with her, she even came on to the forum to try to defend herself pretending to be hard done by and saying she had no convenient internet access of her own and thus used an agency. She even won over a quite a few people on this forum, well at least until some enterprising forum member (who had also been writing to her) found her name and mobile number (which matched to one I had on my own phone her) on a directors list for an agency in her home town ...
You're comprehension must be impaired. Who said Jimlists was legit. Also you're not very experienced in traveling or understanding the mechanics of the FSU dating scene. How many times must knuckleheads like you be warned not to use agencys, not to use sites that are pay per letter. Not to let the girl or the agency do your travel arrangements or lodging.
I mean the only explanation is laziness.
The point I made with the search is, it does not list a single damn forum for scammers. So if you can't do your own research, which it seems you can't, then you deserved to get burned. Nothing much has changed since 5 years ago, they are just variations on a theme. Though knuckleheads like you will come along and put some woman on a forum and we are supposed to believe you? What makes you any more legit than Jimslists? Sounds like you need to grow up a little bit and quit blaming other people because you didn't prepare yourself for this trip. Or didn't want to bother yourself. Here I am Micheal, you should all get on your knees and kiss my feet since I'm here. Guys like you humor me.
Looky here, looky here I found a scammer. Wow what a revelation a scammer in the FSU. That's almost as amazing as knowing the name of the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
Santiago ,
Did she arrange everything for you , did she go to a bankautomat with you and took the money before you could take it .She didn't want you go for a visa and assurance yourself . You had to bring money for the appartment and the taxi , but she told you not to bring belarussian rubles from your own country . On the bankautomat she askes if your visacard is limited .How much did you pay for the appartment she rent for you .
Did she say , we gonna buy a present for her .One evening she comes with her mother and son .She wait for you at the airport , but when you leave she told a stupid story why she could not go with you .I don't think you saw where she lives .I think you saw her only from midday to 20h -20h30 . ithink i am right with the most things i say . Isn't it .