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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Women scam Author Post Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/10/2010 8:38:21 PM   I married a woman in Tver,Russia that I met on Behappy2day. I was a fool to marry her. When it was time to start the immigration process I sent the paperwork into Immigration Canada and the next day sent a message to my wife that I requested Immigration to bring her in for an interview in Moscow to explain a few things that seemed shady to me. A month later she filed for divorce and told me to withdraw the paperwork. I since showed our emails and sms's to a immigration lawyer and he said it was the most obvious scam he has seen in his 29yrs as a lawyer. My wifes name is Anastasia Renzhina(maiden name). She was using me to get to Canada and had no intention of staying with me when she got here. I was a complete fool to marry her. I suspected things were not right before I married her. In the 2 years I was with her( 6 trips to Russia) I never met a single friend of hers, not even at our wedding. The list of facts goes on and on. Too many to list here. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2010 9:25:32 PM   "Fooled" A sad tale, but I've gotta ask....."I suspected things were not right before I married her. In the 2 years I was with her( 6 trips to Russia) I never met a single friend of hers, not even at our wedding. The list of facts goes on and on. Too many to list here" Why marry her then ? And what of "Dansings" revelation on your situation, true ? Regards. Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/17/2010 8:43:59 PM   She did not withdraw the paperwork from the consulate. She is not allowed. I have the client I.D. # and I'm the sponsor. The papers at this very moment are still not withdrawn due to the slow processing in Moscow. Immigration here in Canada knows the story and assured me they would be withdrawn. She may have tried though. She wanted me to withdraw it. I sent an sms to her 2 days after sending in the paperwork stating that I requested Immigration Canada call her in for an interview to explain all the vacations she had taken and to prove that she was going with her mom. She knew she could not go to that interview. She was lying to me the entire time and knew her lies would be exposed if immigration interviewes her. I went to Tver (4th trip) in July of 2008 and she arrived back from Thailand the next day. She showed me photos of her on her trip but had none of her mom. I asked why as she told me she went with her mom. She said they did not take photos of her mom. That was of course a lie. She was also very persistent on this trip that I marry her. The laws state that you have to wait 6 weeks after you get registered for marriage so I knew we could not. We got registered and I finally agreed to try to get married and of course they said no. In total she took 7 vacations. She sent me photos on 2 occasations after I married her without her wedding ring on. When I questioned her(sms)she said and I quote "don't worry, get paperwork done". Did the paperwork get drawn out? Of course it did. I had no choice. I met with an immigration consultant after we were married and he said there is a %50 chance at best of her being allowed to come to Canada. We did not have near enough proof that the relationship was real. I let Anastasia know this. Her reply and again I quote "maybe because we not have home". I then listed the reasons the consultant gave to me. 1. We did not have near enough emails to prove our correspondence. 2. I never met a single friend of hers including at the wedding. 3. She was denied a tourist visa 3 times by Immigration Canada. Her reply to this and again I quote "we have emails behappy and you see photos my friends". I spent 30 days in Russia in July and August of 2008 and never met a single friend. Including at our wedding. I was in Russia a total of 6 times and still did meet a friend of hers. There is a reason Immigration Canada asks if I've met her friends on the questionnaire. The lawyer when he read these sms's laughed. It was so obvious she was lying to me about the life she was living. She constantly spoke of meeting her friends in the sms's when I was in Canada but never met a single one when I was there. Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/17/2010 8:58:57 PM   On top of all that the lawyer read through the sms's and said there is no substance at all. She did not show any interest in me before or after we were married. She did not speak like any normal couple would do. After she wanted a divorce I had a friend trace her emails. 2 emails she sent a month after we were married were sent from Moscow. She sent sms's those exact same days talking about her usual day in Tver. Another lie. After she wanted a divorce she stated she was going to Krasnodar from Nov. 27, 09 till March 14,2010. Said she had family problems to deal with. Said she wanted me to come and see her in March and hoped that she could come to Canada in late 2010 or early 2011 and hoped to have my bably in 2012. She realized after that the all the sms's she had been sending me were downloaded from my phone and sent to Immigration Canada. Then she pulled away. No more come see me. She then says she has a new man. After she sends me an email stating she is Krasnodar and that she is good and not to worry. I had that email traced and she was in Bangkok Thailand in a hotel. Another lie. Back in July of 2008 when I questioned her about her trip I also questioned her about me not meeting her friends and about her work. She quit her job at a cosmetic shop just before her trip. We walked by it everyday and I said lets go in and visit her co-workers. She said no. Her response to my questions about her work, her friends and her trips was "why matter?". On that same trip in July of 2008 she took of to Moscow ,or I at least I was told by my interpreter, for 2 days. She left me that night at 10pm and did not mention anything about going to Moscow the next day. She wanted to marry me but cannot take me with to Moscow with her? She came back from Moscow and all she would say is it was business. I said to after I questioned her about everything that she was lying, we were finished and I left her sitting on the bench. She caught up to me 2 blocks later and she was smiling. Everytime I left to go back to Canada she was smiling. I have a friend who married a russian woman and she cried her eyers out when he left to go home. Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/17/2010 9:22:53 PM   In regards to my friend who married a russsian woman. He also introduced me to another fellow who married a russian woman. Both of them on their first trip to meet their wives met their wives friends in the first 3 days. Went to dinner and partied with them. Again I never met a single friend? Their wives worked while their future husbands were in Russia to meet them. They went to their wives places of work and met their co-workers and clients. Anastasia never worked when I was there. There wives worked and tried to save money to contribute to their future home in Canada. Anastasia did not work, she went on vacation all the time. Considering the income of russian people in Tver I have no idea how that was possible. She told me how much her mom made which was twice what the average is or so I'm told from a man who's wife is from Tver. This man also happens to own an agency in Tver and knows the industry very well. Anastasia in the 2 years we communicated had 6 different cell#'s. One was a Bangkok # which I sent the messages from that phone to immigration too. One phone did mess up and the messages to me came up scrambled. But 6 phones? One was traced to be registered to the St Petersburg region. Why she had a # registered to St Petersburg I have no idea. She constantly wanted me to purchase a home. I said to her many times if the gov't says no and we have to appeal and fight in court to get her here to Canada it would be best to keep every penny for that. Not only that but I did not want to live alone. I was living with 2 friends and saving a $1000 a week. Immigration Canada sets the minimum amount you have to make to sponsor at $30 000 a year for income. That is nothing. But If the 2 people are truly in love, money and material things do not matter. I make easily enough to purchase a home and have purchased one in the last month. I said to Anastasia when she gets here she can settle in to the city and get to know it and then she can choose the house she wants and in the area she likes. Never met a woman who did not want to shop for a home. Except her of course. The lawyer after reading the emails and the sms's said I was lucky she did not get here. It was one of the most obvious scams he had seen in his 29 years as an immigration lawyer. Then he corrected himself and said it was the most obvious. He said there is no doubt she was going to come to Canada and there was no doubt she had no intention of being with me. He essentially called me an idiot without actually saying it. He was right of course. I was an idiot. There were so many red flags. I should have not married her but instead ran the other way. Hindsight is 20/20 and love is blind. I was fooled and manipulated. Except I always planned to have her go for an interview. If she was always telling me the truth and had nothing to hide she would have had no problem meeting Immigration Canada. I will provide the lawyer's contact details and can provide them privately from my email address. Not sure about the new guy she is with and I don't care. What she does with other people is none of my business. All I know is she used me and the paperwork proves it beyond the shadow of the doubt. She took 2 1/2 years of my life and I spent upwards of $55 000 in that time and it was all a lie. Was I crushed and rejected? Of course, I'm human. Is she an innocent woman? Evidence proves otherwise. Was hiding her real life from me. No question about that. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2010 12:43:45 AM   Fooled76, you have a sad story and I sincerely wish you the best, these things happen in life and I hope you become happy once again. Nevber give up your dream to marry a good woman but learn from you mistake what to look for. mzak57 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2010 2:48:58 PM   Fooled76 Wow what a story. Tons of red flags and all were ignored.I am married to a women from the Ukraine and I too live in Canada. All I can tell you is that you have to ask a million questions and understand how the women from Russia and the Ukraine think.Not an easy task, I have friends that have married women from the Ukraine, so I was always asking their wifes questions. Of course they to do not always tell you the whole story ethier, but it can send you down the right track. My wife did not at first introduce me to her friends, I felt this was a little strange but she did have her reasons. She felt that they would have negative things to say to her and would talk about her badly behind her back.This is the jealosy that she claims they all have. This is a eastern women mentality, but it does exist. But I did meet all her family and of course her daughters which are the most important rersons of her life. You are correct most women in the Ukraine and Russia cannot afford to travel outside of these two countries. If they are doing alot of travel there may be many reasons why they can. Like they are employed with a job that requires them to travel. Their family is well off and helps them with their finances, I am sure there are more reasons but she would have no problem letting you know what they are. I had to ask a ton of questions when I was looking for a partner. Many of the women would write and start a relationship. But I was always asking questions about there thought what they wanted in life what they exspected from me ECT. Most hated the questions and would stop talking to me. But my wife answerd all my questions and at times was worried that her answer would scare me away. I was amazed at her honesty. If you are serious about a relationship from the women in the eastern block countries you have to do your homework. It does not come easy and you will have to spend much time investing in the relationship. It is just a suggesion, and by the way I married my wife while she was in Canada not in the Ukraine. I wanted her to see Canada first to make sure she would like to live here before we were fully commited to each other. Just my two bits Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2010 8:02:24 PM   Yes I was stupid to not meet her friends and ignore the red flags. I openly admit that. I did not ignore them completely as I knew if she was lying to me she would not go to the interview with immigration. I was madly in love with her, what can I say. Thought for sure there would be some friends at the wedding. Even after the wedding when I explained why her paperwork could not be done I thought for sure she would let me meet her friends. 2 more trips to Russia and again no friends. Of course I will learn from my mistakes and find a woman who is not a scammer should I go back to Russia or wherever to meet a woman. The fact of the matter is this woman is a scammer of the worst kind. Its one thing to lie to get money and disappear as alot of poeple do on the internet but to use someone to get to their country and leave them or worse yet take what they own. I was told of a man in America who brought a woman over and she divorced him, took his home and brought her russian boyfriend over. The American man offed himself. Women like this are the worst kind of scammers. Immigration Canada knows the story and the lawyer too. I can provide the lawyer's contact details to the moderator of this site if needed. Thank you for the comments put in from others on this site. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2010 6:00:10 PM   Perhaps this is going out of the train of thought at the moment, but why do women scam? Perhaps they have been lied to too many times. I talked to my gf today and she was "counseling" another friend about a troubled marriage. I met this lady. She was with us at Yalta. She just had a baby back then. The story is the same as it was with another friend last week. The men just have too many women. There have been a few before this. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2010 1:10:01 PM   Of course, you are right. But who do you think is more likely to scam, the one who got dumped or the one who did not get dumped? Compare the one who got dumped to someone who has never been married or was widowed. rusKEN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2010 3:06:35 PM   Scammers do not have to be broke at all. They do it because it is easy money. In this case, these scammers succeed because there will people that will defend them and make all kind of silly excuses for them. Learn from Fooled76's mistake and move on rather than argue over minor details. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2010 5:25:13 PM   Indeed...stinks of fish if you ask me. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2010 6:10:21 PM   dansing send PM Smart Martin! 21.02.2010 7:14:37 do you understand faggot that this boby charecter means nothing to me .he didnt conger up anyone im the one using him and he has lead me straight to you . suck shit. im just doing a really cool web page that will be released soon . a computer expert mate is actually doing it for me . and you dick head will not know where it is and what its evern about until its to late. you cant run and cry becouse this will be a web page just like the one you did to this scammer woman So that's one "aye" I've got then, in private, so he thinks, she's a scammer yet, in public, she's not a scammer. :) Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2010 2:13:04 AM   dansing, you are stupid... do you understand anything about life? Your perplexing responses to all the posts are atrocious and self serving. Go away queer! Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2010 1:47:53 PM   wouldn't that be the man who gets on his knee to propose to his husband? rusKEN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2010 5:45:02 PM   Ha, this thread is ending up with personal insults. Perhaps I'm missing something from the personal history between a few of these posters. Fooled76 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2010 10:07:36 PM   As I said earlier she wanted me to come back to Russia in March after the original paperwork was cancelled. Then we could redo the paperwork later and she could come to Canada later. She quit trying when she realized all of our sms's had been printed off and sent to immigration. All her manipulating and lies would be seen by immigration. As for me talking about divorce. Yes I did, after my last trip to Russia in July of 2009 and her trip 3 weeks later to Thailand. I knew she was taking all these trips but not with her mom. She was lying to me before I married her and yet she was the one pushing hard for the wedding, not me. Someone in love will wait as long as it takes to be together and I waited and let her know what immigration wanted and yet she still did not. Don't bother with the insults. I'm not here to call names, just to put the facts on here. I live a very prosperous life in one of the greatest countries in the world so insulting me is pointless. As I said before and again I will repeat, contact the lawyer and speak to him. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2010 2:26:41 AM   Oh! one day I will find you... it will be interesting Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2010 3:35:50 AM   It's par for the course neoKEN. If you look through the forum, you'll find there's four posters who between them will eventually drag any post into a bickering match. Personally I just find them hillarious :) Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2010 1:39:42 PM   geezuz... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Women scam
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