Can anybody give me some advice regarding apartments in Kharkov? (The search function turned up 157 pages of random posts.)
First of all, can you recommend a good apartment rental agency, that you have personally used, and that didn't do a "bait and switch" on you?
Second, what is a good location for an apartment? Is there a central street, like Kreshatyk or Deribasovskaya, where there are restaurants, clubs, and bigger shops?
I see lots of apartments advertised as being "in the center", but Kharkov is a pretty big city, and I would like to find a place that is really central. I don't really want to take the metro just to get to a decent restaurant.
Hey VNV and hey Beem! Its been a few weeks and I just decided to see whats new on the forum and I find a Kharkov post. :) I have been using kharkovrent.com for 5 years. I've been happy with all their apartments and their center locations are great. As Armin pointed out Sumskaya is the the main street and all the apartments are either on the street or just a block or two off of it. Allbeautiful.net is affiliated with the apartment rental company. They are the only agency I use in Kharkov for dating. I usually meet my girls on my own or with the help of an interpreter. Kharkov is my favorite city in Ukraine. I have been to many cities of Ukraine and Kharkov beats them all when it comes to the number of beautiful women. My favorite cafes are Abajour and Fidele, favorite restaurants are Ya Ska for sushi, Kenashi Terem in Shevchenko park area (Go upstairs), Mario's near the Kharkov hotel, and in the warm weather months you cant beat Pushka ( Go to the courtyard seating). All are moderate prices but you could spend some money in Ya Ska and Pushka. I like to save Pushka for the girl I really like. :) The best nightclub in Ukraine and yes I mean all of Ukraine is called Bolero. Go there! Its a great place to take a girl but even better to go single. :) Some nights its 4 to 1 girls over guys and every night its 2 to 1. The other cool thing about Bolero is that you can go any night of the week and it still busy and fun. Fridays and Saturdays are packed but all the other nights are just busy. Some of my best nights there were Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Well, good luck and have a great trip.
I live in Kharkov, I am English and with my Ukrainian wife I own and run a large Apartment Rental business here. I will not give details of my business because of moderator rules, but I I will hopefully be offer some inpartial advice to you.
Monthly rental of a 'business' class apt is $700-1000. If you want a Luxury Apt then this can be $1200-2000.
Best locations are; Pushkinska St. Sumskaja St. Lenina Ave or close to Freedom Square.
If you are coming through a Dating Agency then be careful, many charge well over the standard price and tend to use the lower end or budget apartments. I see many guys arrive and want to up grade to something better. The outside of the building and the entrance hall an look terrible , but once inside the apartment can be very nice. Also be aware that most city centre apartments are in old period buildings , so do not have a lift, ask what floor it is on as cheap ones can mean a long climb up lots of stairs !
Kharkov is a beautiful city all year. There are lots of gorgous genuine ladies really looking for their ideal man. But becareful of the Dating Agencies, I hear of many guys geting scammed by them. Try perhaps a direct contact site, such as Club 10. That way you are speaking to the girl directly, emails, skype etc.
I really love living and working here and am very happy with my Ukrainian wife. The people are great, but I cannot understand why the younger men are letting all these beautiful ladies go to older ukrainian men or disappear abroard. Their loss is our gain !
All the best and good luck !
Best locations; Pushkinska St. Sumskaja St. Lenina Ave or near to Freedom Square.
Cost of Business Apartment will be $700-$1000 per month - Luxury Apartment $1000-2000.
Very good independant free information website about Kharkov, giving tips on places to visit, eat, night clubs, hotels, apartments, etc. is at kharkovinfo.com
Dansing - $2000 per month is for top end of the market, modern large luxury apartment in city centre. How does that compare with similar in your main city, or do you only have experience in cost of a 'park bench'
Maybe a cheap girl will fall for your night of a lifetime offer of a Park Bench, but most ladies here want something a little more up market !!
I just returned from Kharkov, Kiev and the Crimea. My lady was very good at finding apartments at major reduction in price from what is advertised on the internet. She found a "Bed and Breakfast" next to the train station for 300 hyrvnas/day. Very nice room with private shower and rest room. The room had modern furnishings and LCD television. On my trip in January I had a contact that found us an apartment in Kiev that was $50/ night with all new furniture, modern and very comfortable, only a few feet to the Metro and supermarket with internet access by structured wiring. If you are meeting a particular woman that is frugal, she can likely find good accomodations. We actually had good luck in dealing with the women holding signs with rooms to rent at the train station on other trips . The western websites are higher priced for reasons you can guess. I personally was happy in the outer regions as long as they were close to the Metro. Which brings up an event I had in Kiev. If you are seen as a foreigner be cautious and aware. Do not stand out and keep you voice quiet. I was surrounded by 4 men and an attempt was made to pick my pockets. I shoved one man out the door with an elbow to his throat and another tried to get into my pocket. Keep hold of your wallet and passport. From that point on my lady was very cautious about talking as we approached and in how and where we stood.
If you are interested I can P.M. you my contact in Kiev and Kharkov
Dancing I think your missing my point. We have apartments in our business from $40-$100 per day. We have all different types of people that come to Kharkov. Its not just full of Western guys looking for their ideal lady, or just an old saddo' wanting a cheap shag !
The original question was;
'Can anybody give me some advice regarding apartments in Kharkov?'
All you saw was '$2000' and nothing else ! The guys that come here looking for a girl normally pay the Agencies $60+ for an apartment that we own and rent for $40+ directly,for a nights stay.
$2000 per month is for a large luxury apartment that sleeps up to 6 people.
Yes if you can look in the local newspaper for cheap accomodation, but remember the standard of living here is a lot lower than the West and we find that if a guy is prepared to spend hundreds of Dollars flying here , then he normally doesn't want to stay in some out of town 'shit hole' ! - but like you say 'each to his own'
Just so everyone knows - 300rpH is approx $38 - so cheap out-of-centre B&B for 300rpH - OR a proper clean apartment with Bathroom, Kitchen etc etc, of your own, in the city centre for $2 more !!! - I know what I would prefer.
Just so everyone knows , 300rpH is about US$38
- yes you can look at the local newspapers in kharkov and rent a cheap B&B (out-of-town)for this price - but currently US$40 (per night) will get you a clean apartment of your own, with Bathroom and Kitchen, in the city centre !
WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER ?
On a trip in January. We met in Kiev very late one evening and I wanted to stay at Hotel Borispol, then start out early and find a good apartment. She had us go to the train station and we went to an apartment that was a dump by anyones standards. It was dirty and when I sat on the bed the mattress crashed to the floor. We stayed there only because it was late and called the woman to fix the bed immediately, which she did. Whoever broke the bed left a $100 Leatherman tool under the bed trying to make it look as though they did not damage the bed. I still came out ahead for a nights stay. In the morning we were gone to better digs. It has been my experience that the personal flats I have been to are clean and decorated well, with great pride in the interior of the homes, even though the Soviet Apartment Buildings show poorly from the outside of the flats.
The girls over here are fed up of living in shit holes and being treated 2nd rate by the local ass-holes , thats why they want to leave FSU and are prepared to leave their friends and family to start a new life.
They could stay here and be treated to a nice park bench by one of the local vodka heads if thats all they wanted. It would be easier for them and a lot less hasstle !!
Do you think the girls here are worth less than in Western countries ? if so my friend you are way off track - I am English and having known how my own English country ladies act and look after their men, well Ukraine ladies are in a totally different league and should be treated like so.
To quote you "The girls over here are fed up of living in shit holes", are you generalising, talking about every girl over there, the majority of which you never have and never will meet, or are you talking about a relatively minor few?
And I think you need to check your passport to remind you of your nationality because it certainly isn't English!
I was refering to Dansing comments that it is not worth spending money on the FSU girls as they live in low class property and he thinks they don't deserve to be treated as good as a Western lady!
I was brought up to treat a lady like a lady - sorry if thats wrong with you lot !
I am English through and through and proud of it - I just cant understand cheap ass holes thinking they can go to FSU and spend $20 and expect a beautiful model to fall at their feet !!
Ukraine ladies (well the ones I have met living and workig here for nearly 2 years) want a man to love, be faithful and not get pissed up on vodka everyday! I have many friends of my ukrainian, who would love to meet a nice guy, but after reading the posts on this website I dont think I could recommend many !
COME ON YOU GUYS - TREAT THE LADIES WITH SOME RESPECT !
i do think it is naive to think they will leave their family and friends for someone with a meager salary. you talk about love? but how many weeks do international daters really spend with their honeys before applying for the fiance visa?
trust me, i know how much money it takes to travel to fsu. but to go there and be a cheap charlie will send the wrong signals to the girl.
from what i understand about fsu culture, the fsu men might not have alot, but they are very genorous about spending money on their honey.