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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > WHY A VISA TO RUSSIA IS SO DIFFICULT TO GET ! Author Post whytravel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2010 2:22:58 PM   I am a middle age man, that has travellend in many coutryes around the Globe, but I am finding very hard to understand why travel to Russia looks almost an impossible task ! On the visa application form is also required that you remeber the address of your schools and their phone number ! well I left my school forty years ago in another country , to trace this info is very difficult for me. About employment also, the past plases have gon burst and no longer in operation , about their address and phone numbers are in the hands of the long gone liquidators I think ! Why is not possible to apply for a doubble entry visa if you have a private invitation from a friend in Russia ? Is it possible to change address one you in Russia ? up to now no one has be ale to provide me with this informations. Why dont make more easy for tourist that want to visit Russia ?? or is beacouse we must use an agency ! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 3:55:12 PM   I have never filled out that form, but apparently, there is a quick approval, so they probably do not check the data. No doubt, the red tape is left over from their communist days. Some people in this forum says it's no big deal, so maybe it isn't. It was enough for me to consider Ukraine before Russia, although I didn't discount Russia. I experienced the three hour layover in Moscow. A representative met me at the gate and called me by name. "Ragingbull," she said. "You are going to Atlanta? Follow me." She escorted me to get my boarding pass and then to the gate, where we had a security check. The people at the gate told me it was their third security check. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 6:03:15 PM   It isn't quite as hard as it looks -- but many travelers must "bend the rules." Usually, there are no problems. If I understand rightly, the consulate does not check much of the information on visa applications. I'm also middle-aged, and I know what you are talking about -- some of the questions are about "ancient history." If something is not practical to answer, just give as much information as you have: for example, if you can't find the address and phone number, you can still give the name and the city. The consulate won't worry about this ... so you don't need to worry, either! If you want a double-entry visa, you can apply for a tourist or business visa -- but both of your visits must fall within a 30-day period (for a tourist visa) or a 90-day period (for a business visa). To get these types of visas, people "buy" invitations from travel companies. Some hotel or business you never heard of (and will never see) "invites" you for some money. It is a Russian system :) But the 2-entry tourist visa is very limited: the second entry is only supposed to be made from former soviet countries (like Ukraine). Changing your address isn't a problem. But every time you stay in Russia for more than 3 days, you must register your visa. (Registering is a way of informing the police department where you are staying.) And if you then go to a different city, you must register again: any place where you spend 3 or more business days. (For example, if you will be staying in Moscow, but make a weekend trip to another city, you DON'T need to register again: your Moscow registration is all you need.) The main reason they don't make it more easy, is that Russians traveling to most other countries either can't get a visa, or must go through a difficult and expensive process. Russia resents this, and takes the attitude, "you make it hard for us, so we will make it hard for you." Some countries that make it easy for Russians to visit have been given visa-free status: their citizens can make tourist trips to Russia with no visa. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 6:17:22 PM   Many of these visa applications and/or requirements are reciprocal, tit for tat, between the countries, have a thought what bullshit a Russian national has to go through to get a visa to USA or is it only western guys that are so hard done by because 'we' believe we should have the freedom to go wherever we like? :) I've had a Russian visa, I can't recall what questions I answered but I'll never forget my years of education and the name, city, and state, of school(s), they don't need a street address, and it's no hardship to jot the details down on an application form and they don't check anyway! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 8:03:24 PM   You both say they don't check, but for one who is doing it for the first time will wonder and come to the conclusion that it is too much red tape. He will think it will take too long. He will wonder if his answers is a cause for denial. Or ask himself if he is denied, will he get his money back? Then will come to the conclusion that Ukraine is a better alternative. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 8:27:26 PM   RB, I wasn't emphasing on they don't check, we've had this discussion before regarding Ukraine, that some 80% of FSU lady hunters concntrate on, I was making the point that western countries make it difficult for Russian nationals thus it's a tit for tat situation. But with regards to the (FSU) route you, and 80% choose to take, compare it to driving inter city in your car, there os one particularly congested route that so many people choose to use or there are several other routes that could get one to one's destination with lesser inconvenience because the roads are empty, would you choose the congested route? I know I won't get this point across to you RB but I know that you understand. :) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2010 10:25:25 PM   That road you spoke of has a roadblock in which the police are corrupt. While most of the time, they will probably let you go, but they will not only check your driver's license, insurance and car registration, they will also ask how much you paid for your car, where you bought your car, how you got your money to pay for your car, where you are going, why you are going there, who you are going to see, are you related....... Yes, I understand. This is just an exlanation on why people choose Ukraine instead of Russia. You will not be able to fix this, no matter how much better Russian women are to Ukrainian women. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2010 12:51:07 AM   whytravel, I have received 5 visas for tourist travel to Russia over the last 7 years and it is fairly straight forward. For convience contact AFA (A foreign Affair) and they will send you the form to fill out and will get you the visa as cheaply as anyone can in about two weeks time. Don't worry about being too accurate on your past history... just make sure your present documents (international visa) is accurately represented and your name and travel destination is accurate and it will not be a problem. If you have additional questions... ask the AFA representative your specific questions... they do this everyday and are very knowledgeble. caveman... did you find any good berries to eat today or are you eating the lice from your body? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2010 5:17:14 AM   I've always done my visa applications, for whatever country, direct with the consulates. It's no great hardship completing the proformas etc, we do similar all the time when online shopping etc, one should keep their story straight from one application to the next, so simply keep a copy of the first application and merely copy the same details from one application to the next. If one is planning on regular visits to a country then one doesn't necessarily need to apply for a visa for each visit if a double or multiple entry visa is available, Ukrainian double entry visa's were the best deal for me, valid for 6 months so for a year's travel I would merely need to make the application(s) twice and from the comfort of one's home abode. Much alike, as an example, Ukrainian immigration forms, is it still the case that carbon paper hasn't yet reached Ukraine thus one still needs to fill in this form twice? It always cracked me up that the flight cabin crew would only distribute these forms as the aircraft would be at the top of descent, just as one is trying to complete the forms the seat belt sign goes on when service trays need to be secured to their closed positions. These forms are available in the airport arrivals, I'd just pick up a bundle of them and keep them in my bag for future use and I'd complete them whilst still at home much the same as when one completes a visa application form. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 12:30:14 AM   caveman... you recognize you name...you are learning, slow but you are learning. Next you should succumb to your place in society... the pecking order has been established. Do cavemen have homosexual relations with other caveman or do you have a preference for animal husbandry for sexual pleasure? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 12:53:12 AM   When I saw that visa application, I had an idea that they might not check. The websites does imply it is as easy as you say. Yet, many movies feature Russian spies in the US. The news then was Russian spies poisoning the Ukrainian president and Russia's collaboration with Iran with WMD supplies. One cannot be sure how easy it is until he himself tries it. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 2:56:58 AM   Medvedev is starting to make noises they might abolish the Visa restrictions for EU members. About time they did. I have never had a problem getting one from NZ or from Kiev. Kiev was the easiest with my Kiev wife doing all the talking and short cutting the cues etc. Its that invitation letter BS that piss's me off. Having to register it inside of 3 day etc. OK if you are staying at Hotel – but a pain if you are staying with relatives or private residence. I think there is big changes in the wings for Visa entry into Russia. Just pray the newly elected Pro Russian Ukrainian President doesn’t reverse the Visa relaxation done by the former Pro Western clown. Him and his rope head Prime Minister squandered Ukraine’s independence and affiliation to the West. Hate to say it – but Ukraine could well become “The Ukraine” again !!!!!!!! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 3:36:32 AM   Ukraine's visa's came down because, the year before, Ukraine had won the Eurovision Song Contest thus that year, I think 2005, it was being hosted in Ukarine, all sorts would be flocking to Ukraine and I guess they feared a meltdown whereas they simply wouldn't be able to cope with the number of visa applications. Perhaps Russia might win the Eurovision one day, that could be interesting :) Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 4:48:05 AM   Russia won Eurovision in 2008 with Dima Bilan and hosted Eurovision last year Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 5:06:49 AM   Well that shows how much us W. Europeans take the Eurovision seriously, we don't even follow it because it's such a farce with all the political voting, Cyprus always give their 12 points to Greece and vice versa :) Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 7:00:27 AM   getting the visa is not difficult as already stated. whether or not many think it is a waste of money, it is better to use an agency to get your visa - they have connections. or just look for an agency that specializes in Russian visas. easiest and most positive result. and if you are worried about all of the info they are requesting just keep it simple. if you are worried about whether or not "they" check out the info, they probably don't, just remember to keep a copy and record of what you put down on the application. it will save time and effort for the next time and also not raise any eyebrows because it will be an exact duplicate of the first one etc... Australia Man Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 11:16:14 AM   I waz surprised that russia is far away from australia because on the map it not verry far att all ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 11:39:47 AM   Also when I first went to Ukraine, there were news reports of tourists being jailed and charged with spying in Iran and North Korea, as it is now. Nothing was about Russia, but still.... My friends and family were worried about me. I listened to them, but I still went. I felt a little better that I went to a country with no long visa application with fees as Russia. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 12:37:18 PM   RB, I doubt that you need a visa for Greece, millions flock there every summer for their holidays, but use your camera anywhere near to one of their (combined) civilian/military airports then, if caught, they'll lock you up for spying also. So your family were worried about Russia so, instead, they were happier for you to go to a country in which Chernobyl resides and the president gets poisoned by the opposition? etc. etc. etc. :) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2010 1:55:04 PM   Wasn't it the Russians that poisoned the Ukrainian president? Noone here is talking about Greece. Chernobyl can be avoided. I could envision the Russians looking at the filled out visa application, and exploiting it to accuse someone of spying. No such problem with Ukraine. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > WHY A VISA TO RUSSIA IS SO DIFFICULT TO GET !
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