Good post Jonboy. Can someone please suggest how easy it is for the girls in Ukraine to get US visitors visa. I see few girls who have got US visitors visa. Is it a standard procedure or are they getting these visas through some travel agency. What si the cost of such a visa and what is the duration of such a visa?
I found alot of online girls from Lugansk or Donetsk Region. They all write "I do not have passport and it costs 200-250 dollar and ready in one month"
I do not trust them so I searched prices abous passport. I sent email to Ukraian Police Departmant and they answered:
"Hallo.
Only your girlfriend personaly can make an international passport. It costs about $50 and takes about month.
She need to go to Lugansk police and to bring them documents, that needed to make a passport."
I sent this message to the girl and they answered "It is only for passport. But I need to make some documents for the passport and if you want to take this documents soon you have to pay money"
Is this right?
Is there any agency I can send money and make Ukrainian passport?
I told them I would arrive to Donetsk and we could meet. They answered that they wanted to arrive my country or some of them told me they need some money to arrive Donetsk. And I know Ukrainian train is so cheaper.
This was a good test shows how Lugansk and Kharkow girls are lier.
Tuvfer ... their are tons of scammers esp online girls. You have to find the right ones. In firs two interactions qualify them with tough questions, otherwise you will waste lot of time. I have a local contact in Lugasnk who can help. If you visit there, PM me and I will send it to you. I have heard good things about him. He can also do translation. Always hire your own translator. If the girls says she wants to use agency or her own translator, tell her it ain't gonna happen. It better to dump the girl and go for another one. Also have back up plans available.
Girls from Lugansk told me "I can arrive to this city. But I need money for travel"
I answer "I can buy bus ticket online. Please give me your full name and surname."
They told me "We should buy the travell tickets here,ourselves!!!For our bosses at work give us a holliday and let us us"
I asked how much they wanted
They answered "We need 250 $ for the road"
WAOOWW They think I am idiot.
Because bus only costs 6 dollars 1 person for 1 way.
Congratulations on doing some "homework," and keeping cautious.
Unfortunately, maybe you don't know the Lugansk has a horrible reputation -- maybe the worst hotbed of "bride" scamming in the vast scam-world of the former Soviet Union.
You will need a lot of luck, to meet even one sincere woman.
oh i can tell you about passport. I have a friend from Lugansk and she told me that you can make passport in Lugansk cheaper than in Odessa and i made one in Odessa it cost me $83 and yes it took a month. If you want to make a passport in 2 weeks it'll cost $200 maybe $210 in Odessa, in Lugansk it'll be a little cheaper.
$250 haha :) the train from Lugansk to Donetsk goes 3 hr, so it costs $10 one way maximum!
Tuvfer,
the last one i had was some russian girl from around Kazan.
she needed funds for her internet cafe debt,, from emailing me supposedly.
i had a long think about it and gave her permission to fuck the earth out of the internet guy for payment(as long as he wasn't hung like a horse, such has physical repercussions yeah, no one likes to shag a horse)
i also said to her i really didnt know how many times such would needed to be done? i'm just clueless with this sort of thing, but please dont leave anything out of your letters for i was very interested how it all went, specially the dirty bits.
its been 4-5 years now and well i'm thinking i have lost her to this guy for i haven't had a reply.
you just cannot trust them,,,, he must-of been a horse..
realistically? probably not many. Im sure there are some who lure wealthier men into traps to be robbed and Im sure some prostitutes also do.
Most are involved in their own personal scams with their own taxi drivers, translators, places to eat and even hotels. I even knew a girl who would "help" guys
get a room at a hotel and misrepresent the price to him. afterwards, front desk girl and her split the overage
What do you recommend against to Mafia?
You wrote "Most are involved in their own personal scams with their own taxi drivers, translators, places to eat and even hotels. I even knew a girl who would "help" guys"
One of them follows this rule and you might be right.
But the other one accepted to arrive by bus. Does it mean girl arrives by bus is most reliable?
I will stay at a famous 5 Star Hotel. Can I not trust to Hotel?
I think it was best said above: NEVER send money to someone you haven't met first in person.
These scammers have 101 different ways to play you and make you "prove" how worthy you are of obtaining attention from the stolen model's pictures that Boris in Russia or Chen Wai in China are using to con you.
Real Russian or Ukrainian women will NOT ask for money. Period.