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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > SUMY AGENCIES Author Post Taff Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2010 2:58:55 PM   Hi Everyone New to this forum and site, I was just wondering if you guys could give me some pointers to use to see if I am chatting with a scammer or a real person looking for marriage??? I have been in-contact with a great lady from Sumy and met her through Russina Women Personals. She contacted me after I put my profile and picture up. She is registered with Hearts Desires in Sumy. She is very nice in her letters and has never asked for money or anything like that, I have sent her flowers regularly and have always had a nice pictures back from them of her and the flowers. We have chatted with the aid of a translator over the phone on many occasions and everything seems great and she wants me to come and visit her. I think alot of the lady and would like to know what to look for etc, before things go further and emotions start getting involved when we meet etc. Any advice would be great thanx, as this is the first time that I have used such and agency etc, so any pointers and tips form guys that know the ropes would be gratefully received. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2010 9:25:10 PM   Taff, My first information to you is to soon expect a flury of derogatory messages from the following people, smart martin, nasafan6, dansell and raging bull. They are the spoilers of this forum, they perform this constant arguing and posturing to benefit their egoes. My recommendation to you is to ignore all their posts which will eventually degrade your original question into nothing but quarrels between themselves. Taff, my questions to you are; what is your age difference and will she agree meet you in skype and simply give you her correct personal email address (they all have personal email) and phone numbers. This will eliminate the agency and it's interpreters. You have to rrmove her from the agency to make any headway in this relationship. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2010 11:32:40 PM   Wow Mini, did you think that up all by yourself?? Eliminate the agency?? That's a profound revelation. Again, no bigger ego here than yours. By the way did your new Russian woman laugh her ass off at you driving a womans car?? Taff Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 4:51:34 AM   Well I haven't asked her for her address, I did ask for her email address, but she said she did not have a computer at home and had to use the agency, as they translate everything for her, I have spoken to her via the telephone, but have been wondering if I should write to her without an agency, but she does not speak any english. She is 10 years younger than me, I am 37, she is 27. I haven't asked yet about skype as I am new to all this and have only just got skype myself. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 5:00:34 AM   Taff, From Wales per chance? :) Well having just visited the Hearts Desires website it seems their only contact info is an email address, straight away that is a red flag indicating that they do not want to be contacted, or found, by phone or postal address however a domain search reveals: Domain Name: HEART-DESIRES.COM Registrant: N/A Andriy Deynichenko (sumytranslations@mail.ru) ul. Gor'kogo 5-5 Summy Sumy Oblast,40000 UA Tel. +38.0506195169 Proceed with an amber traffic light, a Google search reveals that they affiliate with reknowned anastasia, army of brides, scam organisations etc. And with regards to to the initial respondent of your post, he can flame me if he likes but I believe I've provided more useful information than he ever will! Taff Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 5:04:48 AM   Hello Martin Thanks for the message, the contact details for their office are as follows: If you have any questions do not hesitate to write us and we will be always happy to help you. This is our e-mail address: info@heart-desires.com Our phone number: +38 050 619 51 69 This is our address in Sumy: Ukraine Sumy 40030 Gorkogo street, building #5, office #5 This was cut and pasted from their web site. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 6:57:43 AM   Taff, There are more scam agencies out there than there are genuine ones, if they affiliate with the likes of anastasia and AoB then, as I said, proceed with caution. Check your PM's :) bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 9:54:21 AM   Hello Taff I know this agency and have even met a lady threw them. There prices are a lot more than other agency's in Sumy and they do have a lot of no shows with there girls. there interpreters are about 10 more per hour than the going rate and expect 5 to 10 more per day on apartment rental. most agency's in Sumy charge 50 to meet one of there girls, a couple are a little cheaper around 40 at the smaller agency's. interpreters normally cost 5-7 an hour in Sumy. The going rate for hotel there is 50 you can rent an apartment from 35-50 depending on where and how nice. I will be going back to Sumy at the end of July. pm me for my email and any more questions. Taff Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2010 5:34:33 PM   Ok cheers guys, yes flowers were sent for her birthday and have sent some about every 3 mths, I think its about three lots of flowers all together including her birthday. Thats about it really, I will ask her for her email and postal address and phone number if she has one and see what happens. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/9/2010 4:32:19 AM   i sent one lot of flowers to a girl (current gf) one time before meeting - no more than that (unless ou consider the one time i sent some flowers to a girl, 12 btw, without knowing about the odd/even number thing and oddly never heard from her again!) don't ask her for her postal address - she would be dumb to give that out to someone she's never met - but you never know i suppose. i would use the agencies until meeting first time at least. good to see bowhunter posted here - who is a bit of an expert on sumy :p we'll both be be there in a couple of weeks as it happens... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/11/2010 6:35:19 PM   Dealt with Heartdesires one time a few years back. Was writing to a girl on another site ( I didn't know her agency at time)and was going to meet her but she got upset when I made my own plans for apt...also found out from apt agency that many guys come to meet girls from heartdesires and girls don't show up/busy/out of town. Lots of pretty girls on the site from sumy. Guy I know did meet a couple girls and verified girls were real(ones I knew of). I got postal address of one girl and sent her flowers one time- pretty cheap pricing. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/15/2010 12:45:54 PM   Heart Desires is an honest agency. I've used them several times, met lots of very real and sincere ladies, and never had any problems. Taff: inbox me if you want more details about Sumy. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/15/2010 7:53:27 PM   they were also called slavic princes at one time. there office was small there services were a bit expensive for Sumy. I was charged 15 an hour for interpreter so I only used there's once since the going rate is 5-7. I had 1 girl do a no show and became friends with another one. they are also affiliated with Natashaclub. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > SUMY AGENCIES
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