Hi Azul
I have found some girls from small city are more old fashioned as you put it. there are of course exceptions like small town girls who want to be big city girls. some just want as one friend put it a talking wallet to buy them things but most of those kind of girls are big city girls. most of the girls I have met from smaller city's and villages do not think of foreign men as a talking wallet.
I just would like to talk a little about my experience. I am not American and I have never lived in the US. In my country, people used to be old-fashioned in comparison to the people from the States. In the 70's, society here was similar to American society in the 50's. But things changed dramatically in the 90's. Beverly Hills 90210 arrived here and everything changed. Now I can hardly find the difference between values of American girls and the ones of the girls from my country, despite many people still keep the idea that American people are very "modern" in comparison to us.
Anyway it is a little hard to me to understand the difference between the girls form Decatur, Illinois from the girls form Chicago, as we always have seemed American people the same, no matter the regions they come from.
When I started meeting girls from Eastern Europe, I became fascinated with the fact that some of them still have traditional values. A couple of years ago I had a girlfriend from Odessa, Ukraine, who I met in a tour of AFA. On one hand she had this kind of traditional values, but on the other she was just looking to marry a rich guy.
Now, this new girl is from Novomoskovsk, RUSSIA, not Ukraine, which is a city with 100,000 inhabitants. She is 24 years old. She doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't smoke and doens't like going to clubs. She told me that in many senses, she is very old-fashioned in comparison to the people she knows. This girl became extremily excited when I sent flowers to her for her birthday. I just bought my air ticket and I will leave in about two weeks. let's see what happens.
first of all - television is poison for the mind and soul. television does not really portray real life for the most part. and the news is so jaded and one sided. nowadays, most americans can't even think for themselves. it is sad. it used to be a great country... so when people of other countries see american television, especially shows like beverly hills 90210 and similar, they do not see real america. it is a big place with very many different peoples. there are huge differences in people according to region, wealth, religious beliefs, environment - the list goes on. there are just as many differences between between people of the same race/ethnicity. a white man in his twenties from west virginia is completely different from the same man growing up in new york city. I'll take country folks over city folks any day. also understand that america still is a great melting pot. although it is unfortunate with all the illegals coming across our southern border. there are very many neighborhoods in the cities that are truly there own separate micro-country. hacidic jews in nyc, chineses, italian, german and yes, even russian. some cities were settled by immigrants in the twenties, thirties, forties that still have that ethnicity to them. my people were irish coal miners. I have blood connection to the mollies. talk about being an oppressed people? it is still a great place to live and I am proud to wave the flag. but it is going downhill fast.
good luck with the lady from russia. hope it works out. an old fashioned russian gal can't be beat.
Ralph, we are not a melting pot anymore because that requires assimilation, we are multicultural now. Watch before the PC police get your for incorrect writing.
Thank you very much for your comments, Ralph. I had the notion that the general idea that people have here about American society must be not accurate, at least not in all the regions and social groups of the US. But I think that this idea came from the fact that most part of information we receive from American society comes from TV series and springbreakers.
The problem is that the society of my country received that information and changed very much in a few years. Now in many big cities, society is similar to those TV series. Unfortunately, many people here still think that despite of those changes, our society is still more conservative than the American one. But I really started changed my mind recently.
once again ARJM, television does not even come close to reality, especially "reality" shows. it is actually one big joke. as for spring breakers... a bunch of snot nosed kids who feel it is some sort of a right of passage to get totally drunk, take drugs, have sex with strangers - many for the first time and act totally out of control because they will not be taken to task for their irresponsible behavior. many kids regret what happened. it is the las vegas attitude, "what happens in vegas stays in vegas". more than few lives have been ruined by spring break behavior. once again it comes from television which glamorizes this type of thing. and the mtv bunch. what a joke - I don't even want to get into that... there are more down to earth sensible and old fashioned people in america than other. it just isn't news worthy. the silent majority.
Yes, American TV is indeed poison for the mind. Compared to what I saw in my youth, these shows lack moral and responsibility. They are what people like to watch, but slowly people act out what they see and hear. Do not be surprise that shows like this will end up in Russia.
AzulReyJM.... yes I would like to know how it turns out for you in Ukraine,I have met a girl from Sumy, Ukraine,and am thinking of going to meet her this fall, never been to ukraine but have been told Sumy is a nice area, the girls there seem very down to earth and and looking for relations from outside there region do to there dissapointment in ukrainian men and 3 woman to 1 man ratio, I have nothing against there men just what she had told me, she says many girls from there area look for husbands elsware, hee in the midwest illinois/iowa good moraled old fashioned girls are becoming scarce even here in the heartland these days.
AzulRey's girl lives in Russia, not Ukraine. If he meets her in her hometown, he will be roughly 350 kilometers from the nearest point in Ukraine (which happens to be Sumy).
As to the big question ... I don't have the experience to answer. The women I have met have all been "city girls," more or less.
The Russian-speaking gal I knew the best, and her sister as well, impressed me as rather hard and calculating people. They grew up in the what was the 3rd largest city of the Soviet Union. In contrast, their mother, who grew up in a rural village, impressed me as very warm and caring. How much the contrast is due to their environment -- as opposed to age, generations, the great social changes of recent years -- I don't know.
I have just hit a bump in my relations with a woman I have been dealing with for 1.5 years. We have met three times and I was planning another trip. She has asked me about my family and I described them. I told her of my father's contribution of putting a man on the moon as an aeroapace engineer. What I received was a response as to what a fool I was to believe that there were really men on the moon. Her argument was that it was fabricated in a Hollywood studio and that no one has returned in nearly 40 years. It was as though I was speaking to Mr. T or any of the President's men. Her attitiude was superior and condescending. We had a few other arguments over remaining home to watch "Dom 2", a reality show from Russia about snivelling young adults living together. The Oprah mentality is strong in the FSU. Gone again skip-to-ma-lou!
What I told her was that the ability to talk and see each other on Skype was the a benefit of the space program. That the reason no one has returned to the moon is, it is a big rock without any value except to mine and not feasable. The space station is a better venue for low gravitational research, but she still believes "Oliv-egor Stone-ivich
Huck, I wonder, how old is this woman -- her TV show sounds a bit like MTV's "Real Life"
As to unswerving belief in ideas that wouldn't withstand 10 minutes of reasoning -- I wish I could say this is unusual in Russian lands.
To be fair, people in my country (USA) are at least as superstitious as those in the Russian-speaking world. But I THINK that the more educated Americans are, the less likely to believe in some kinds of nonsense -- my experience Over There is that even really intelligent people with high university degrees subscribe to loony beliefs.