I'm a newbie here having joined yesterday and have had a quick browse through the forum. Already receiving a few nice replies (likely templates) from emails already sent out.
I think that I have given up on English women.
My first love lied, turned out to be a pole dancer having done a stint in the US and not a sweet airline stewardess. My second was an absolute princess but I lost her when I fell ill - my one big regret. My third major love was a crush from school 22 years ago and she turned out to be absolutely * crazy! The worse thing from that is that we have a baby due in 8 weeks and the * has hit the fan.
Like I said, I think I've given up on English women. Nothing but emotional and psychological problems in my experience.
What experiences have others had in the forum on Russian women and their perspective on life. How different are those views to typical English woman ?
Fair enough, dma, i have had similar things with english women, after studying a little psychology, russian women amongst others have a tendancy to be more family orientated, but that is no gauruntee. Do be prepared that even if you are successful in finding a woman for yourself, and i say if, because some communicate with you for ages and then stop dead, usually these are agency emailed girls, and they do this after you intend going to see them. But if you are lucky and find one, and get her to come over here, then therte are still a multitude of problems to deal with, such as, she will be in a strange land and probably not able to speak the lingo much. She will probably be very homesick, if not soon but sometime. And of course the three year test , i know a couple of lads who have married russian women, and two that have married phillipino's, have lived very happily till three years was up, and they gain full citizenship, then they suddenly leave for 'no reason'. I am not saying this will happen, but there are always drawbacks, and even the best are dupped. So don't ever think this will be a bed of roses.
Without a doubt, I intend to marry a Russian woman. They are all different (of course) there seems to be a base of qulaities that they have that are distinct from those found in American women (sorry, but I have not had any experience with English women). Having said that, however, keep in mind that they will completely baffle you from time to time, as you eventually commit some cultural faux pas, and not have any idea that you have done so. (One of mine recently was laying on the bed, with my shoes on, and a Moldovan girl in the room. By her reaction, you would have thought I had killed someone.) Be open minded and culturally aware. And don't chalk up to craziness what is most likely a different cultural value.
thanks chrish. My feelings were that they would be more family orientated than English women and probably the thing I'm looking at is "emotionally stable" but then, maybe that's just women worldwide! ;-)
As with anything, there are no guarantees.
I'll take note of your warning about agency girls. Are you saying that they don't mind chatting but when it comes to meeting, everything dies ?
I appreciate the homesick thing and have read other threads that cater for at least regular phone contact. I am currently looking at those girls where English is less of a problem but likely many are inflating their ratings to get interest ?
hmmm the 3 year thing. That's bad. Does anyone have any stats on such success/failure rates ?
I've seen a few American and Canadian women in my time...they absolutely love the English accent. ;-)
A woman baffle a man ? lol. They are from Venus after all.
Culural differences as you say can be learned but it's the crazy women that I am now trying to avoid but as with anything again, no guarantees on that either. Maybe it's just me, maybe it's me causing them to be crazy (lol)...no, that can't be right.
Sorry for interfering But I wanted to add: some cultural problems that appear (and they appear very often)are really crutial. One of such almost became a reason of breaking up of me and my man:( Think everything over before making a decision, cultures are really different and dont hurry up to make conclusions. ;)
I have had the good fortune to live in the FSU (Former Soviet Union) as a foreign student in the mid 70s and early 80s. Although, chances of ending up with a psycho are fairly even no matter which European country you target (or for that matter, even in our great and mighty US), Russian women are (still) in my opinion a little bit of a throw-back to the good ol' days when 'mama' stayed home, and 'papa' thought for the two of them. At least, they start out that way. However, unfortunately for Russian mamas, Russian papas tend to gradually gravitate towards the bottle and eventual renunciation of their family responsibilities. That leaves mama no option but to take charge of daily operations. In my opinion, that is the reasaon why historically mothers in Russia have been the fulcrum of the family unit. But most Russian women I know, secretly long for a strong man in their lives, someone who is responsible, and does not succumb to Vodka by the time he hits middle age. This was a surprise discovery for me because earlier, the Soviet propaganda had me convinced that the "new" Soviet woman was a bastion of modern womanhood, and kicked ass with her new found 'equality' and 'confidence' under the Red flag. That turned out to be pure fable. Hundreds of years of evolution of Russian society has barely been dented by seventy odd years of Soviet regime. Russian women are still the way Tolstoy (and other great Russian writers) portrayed them in his classics. Most are loving, sincere, and because they come from a recent tragic past -- grateful to a promise of genuine support and care that most humans crave. Of course, there are always exceptions who prove the rule. Lately, I have heard of all kinds of hoaxes perpetuated either by eager 'professional' girls in Russia on willing and stupid western men. Sometimes, these girls are mere tools of organized crime there. But overall your chances of finding a genuine relationship in Russia are still very high when compared to other countries. Just remember, a successful relationship is a two way street. Under no circumstances take your Russian girlfriend/lover/wife for granted. And your chances of living "happily ever after" will quadruple! Good Luck, and I hope this helps.
It was a small hotel room and there were several people present including my Moldovan's mother (certainly not inimate setting). By my "big American" standards there was nearly no place to stand. The bed was covered with a bedspread so I simply laid down on it to watch television. My shoeswere barely on the bed an on the far end. At that point my Moldovan started yelliing at me in English while her mother (who knew no English) started yelling at me in Russian. Apperently I commited a major faux pas. I should have gotten a clue when days earlier she had purchased slippers (goofy red ones) that she insisted be worn in the room - and she wanted me to do likewise. I found out much later that Moldovans leave their shoes outside their homes and never wear them indoors (much less while lying on the bed). On the same trip I also left an empty bottle on the table (it was interesting and I intended to save it). The mother became very upset. You never leave an empty bottle on the table there because it indicates pending doom of some sort. These were very calm, patient, rational and wonderful people - with the exception of the above mentioned incidents which totally took me by surprise.
We have a similar custom in the UK, if you had left an empty (alcoholic) bottle in front of my mother on the table - there would be doom and gloom - especially if she had not been offered any of it. lol
Whilst it's nice to meet family, "if" I ever did travel across, I think I would be wanting to spend the bulk of my time with the sweetheart than mother. ;-)
(mind you at 35, I'm fast approaching 'dad' status myself)
Actually my Moldovan at first traveled the six hours to meet me with a girlfriend. After several days, when the girlfriend had to return to Moldova, she traveled again the six hours to accompany her home, and then traveled six hours, again, with her mother, to meet me. I was given baby pictures and her mother's full blessing as we spent the next few days together.
Another intersting Moldovan custom (which I broke). It is considered extremely impolite to pour a bottle backward (turning the hand that holds it backward). In cramped quarters this may be the most convenient. But it is certainly not advisable as it is considered a great insult. This is just another of the many cultural differences one has to avoid treading on.
c'mon, you don't mean building whole sentences surely? And if so, do you also expect them to mean anything then? Gosh...
It is much easier to leave some letters, you can show all of your friends, and also it makes yourself feel good I take it. I mean, it is the sole reason why I leave post: I print them and show them to my parrot, and then we both have a laugh.
More fun, and a lot easier than to have to think, or say something which, lord prevent, makes sense. Boring, and after all this is a chatsite, for me an' me mates.
Who cares if someone else cannot find posts anymore, or can't find the trees amoung the overgrowth? Never mind casual visitors who just might peek around the corner and might be interested - they get instantaneously the wrong impression and only chatting-type's will stay.
That's the start of a vicious circle, vicious, ominous....
You see, that's exactly the point. I live in a sanatorium, with soft walls, rounded corners and a massive electrified fence a round it.
I take it you do too Chip?
Continue to listen Boyz'R'us, but put the headphones on.
Your thick British sarcasm doesn't always translate well to international audiences. But if you are indicating that I should communicate with mimimum number of sentences in order to constitute some difference between "chat" and what you regard as a proper post - then I suggest that you list all of the rules applicable to what you consider proper, allowable subject matter and reference styles. Document all of these things quite properly as you would dictate to others and shove them... into your wastebasket.