Just a warning FOR MARINA KNAIDEL on A-international (ID: 1143848)
SHE is NOT HONEST and things do not add up with her.
She said she was married - but it ended in divorice as her husband was on drugs.
However once i meet her in person it turns out He was never on drugs. She also told me she was divorced- however when we started to make plans for the future she told me she did not know if she was married or not? how can you not know if you are married or not?
I asked Marina in Odessa if she had any sexual disease. To which she said NO-- However 2 months later she tells me that she has herpes. and after our relationship ended she then tells me she does not have herpes anymore... HERPES does not go away- it is incureable!!!!! She also said she was divorced after we had ENDED. How can you be on a marriage service and not know if you are married or NOT??
She does not want marriage- I was engaged to her for a few months- she just wants a sponsor to pay for things and to take care of her.
EVERYTHING TO HER WAS RUSHED AND TOO FASTt!!!!!! I had her come to canada for a few weeks and she complained the whole time- How much better things were in odessa- and how she misses her family- and when she gets home to odessa she does not even visit her family? ??? BUT yet she spoke of how difficult it is to be away from her family.... and that our relationship was too rushed- how can things be rushed? they cant- it is either on or it is OFF
I say this as a warning-She does not want marriage or a family---- She says she wants children- BUT then she says no to having any CHILDREN AT ALL.
- ALso if you have a house she will want you to sell it and move into an small apartment- She finds houses too big and uncomfortable..
Save your money and time- There are how many more women out there!!!
Yes, you can be divorced and not know it. How it is done in the FSU, I don't know, but probably similar.
If you were abandoned by your spouse and it has been months or years, and you find another mate, what would you do? You publish your intention to divorce in the newspaper. Then, you can divorce without the other spouse knowing because (s)he is not around. I believe that is the procedure.
This can be exploited by publishing your intention to divorce even if you are still with her (him). Then, you have to bet on not being read by her or anyone you know. Better yet, use someone you know's address from another state and do the above procedure.
I read scam stories all the time, but noone has been able to answer why one site is a scam and another is not. These are professional letter writers and they get paid to write to you is one answer I have gotten. But that doesn't answer it. Who is to say the "good" site doesn't practice this?
Others call sites "classic scam site" or known scam sites. Can you imagine one getting convicted because he is called a classic thief, murderer or rapist? Another answer is it will drain your money, as in pay per letter sites. They tell you how much to write and how much to read and you pay it. Where is the scam? Any business deal does that. Another reason is the owner made too much money and got rich. The question is did he do it honestly?
I used AOB and Globaladies for my three visits to Ukraine. They were all genuine ladies. I had trouble with one affiliate agency, but I saw no signs that would make me call these sites scam. Still, others persist in calling them scams citing the reasons above.
The following site, I believe is proof. I got it from another forum, apparently already translated by google. I posted it on the Anastasia site, but noone commented. It tells what a lady can win if they go to work for Anastasia. I say 'I believe' because of my limited comprehension of Russian. It is of Anastasia and not of Globaladies or AOB, but because of this, I see that they may do this also. Still I have no proof about these sites.
Did you pay for every form of contact with your ladies on AOB and GL?
If so, then they are classic Pay-per sites which must be avoided. If you were able to immediately remove the lady from the agency and begin personal, private correspondence without ever paying anything to the site, then good for you.
The classic scam sites seem to either be a haven for a multitude of scammers or are classic Pay-per sites; both of which should be avoided at all costs.
If you mean getting their phone number and meeting the girl in person, no. I did not pay for that. With one exception, I got their phone number on the very next letter when I asked for it. I got the one exception on the third time I asked. I still used the website at times for translation purposes.
Two of the three ladies were waiting for me at the airport when I landed in Kiev. The other lived in Zaporozhye and was there when I got off the train. My gf rented the apartment from the agency (not AOB) on my last trip. Paying the rent was the only time I paid the agency directly.
A business can decide to be a scam or not. I am not here to defend AOB or GL if they are guilty. All I am asking is, is there proof? They both use agencies throughout the FSU. Isn't that what all the websites do?
"The classic scam sites seem to either be a haven for a multitude of scammers or are classic Pay-per sites; both of which should be avoided at all costs."
You put 'classic' in front of Pay per site. You seem to paint all pay per sites a scams. I understand that you can pay a lot on pay per sites. I already explained why this itself is not a scam. I have also explained how you can pay as little as $14 on pay per sites. Are there pay per sites which are not 'classic' and not be avoided?
You are not making sense, Baron. You keep stating your views and ignoring the reasons I give why your theory is flawed. You state that the only way to determine if a woman is serious, is to take the correspondence private. I told you that there was only one exception to the lady giving me their phone number after the very first letter with AOB and globaladies. That would mean you can contact a lady for as little as $14 and get them private. (I wonder if they are going to change their rules if people start doing this.)
An agency or website may or may not decide to be run as a pay per letter. They may or may not decide to run their business as a scam. They are not the same things. When one fails after spending a lot of money, it is easy to call the whole thing a scam, and it may be, or at least in part. But, don't state the reason as a pay per letter. They told you the price and you paid it.
I am not stating whether or not AOB or globaladies are scams or not. But, in this forum or anyplace that I have read that they are scams, their reasons are flawed (classic scam, pay per letter scam, you pay too much money...) I have read about paying per contact - phone numbers, meetings, etc. The websites mentioned in these were not globaladies or AOB.
I think the competition plays a big part of failure. AOB has this feature where they display the top 100 most popular girls. They are pretty for sure. But, being the most popular means they have the most letters or suitors. Why anyone would go after these women is beyond me. Also, you must be weary of women that write you first. They are "fishing" and looking for a response. Of the dozens of letters you get, you will ignore many. For them to get a response, they will write to many. To fix this, one of the things you should ask the lady first is if she is corresponding to others. Then, you will know what you are up against. I have and not one of them has said no.
First, yes just because they are a Pay-per doesn't make them a scam site; maybe my retoric was too harsh. And yes they are in business because of this revenue.....
to me, the scam part of it will come if you can not take a lady off the agency; if you get that "the agency will not allow me to do it" then that part is a scam. If the agency was really really interested in getting people together then they ought to allow that to happen. To prolong it for any reason is the "scam" part that I mention (on both the site's and the lady's fault).
And as we have known from many men, those that can not remove the lady from agency, there is not a high success rate. Yes one may be able to meet with these ladies (and maybe their interpreter, their taxi driver and stay in their apartment) all of which is not a good sign for a lasting relationship, except to keep corresponding and spending money.
Men do not have to pay these costs....but maybe I give too many credit where it is not warranted. Most lasting successes I have known or read about usually came about because of hard work by both individuals....taking the easy way out usually does not result in a lasting relationship.
Of course you can point to a handful of exceptions, there always statistically will be, but normally all we hear about is the heartache.
It is certainly a red flag if she will not give you her phone number. Again, I have never run into that. Interpreter, taxi and apartment you might or will need. If they give you a good rate, fine. But, if the rate is high, and they insist on it, walk away and do not look back.