the bottom line is the "Slavic-Soviet-Ukraine" Stepford wife syndrome.Huge breasted, long legged, great curved hipped angels looking to foreign men as Little Orphan Annie to a new pair of shoes. What are women's real value is the question! Are they only good for breeding? Providing heat and pressure? The natural order of things? I don't see them all flying, as our male brothers, to "chase" their dream? Hell no! They sit and hen and "wait" for daddy. The heck with the entire concept!
Hm..
I heard Ukraine is popular for sex tourism.
But what is here?
Canada boy is really interested in girls. Not in body and appearance.
Strange.
I am ukrainian and i'm just trying to prove myself that Ukrainians are not for sale.
If you have any sources of such information(like "how to fuck free a ukrainian girl" and so on..) give me a link please.
Durak, you are repeating the argument made to justify the presence of those entering illegally. In fact, it is nearly impossible to enter and remain longer than a short visit without becoming involved in a network (organized or not) to assist and maintain their presence in this country. That is is fact a conspiracy and therefore a crime.
No, Rodan, the above statement is flat wrong. I did not justify anything. Many, many things that are illegal -- like driving the wrong way on a highway -- are not necessarily criminal. Saying that is it not a crime, does not in any way justify it. Whether or not a conspiracy -- or any other conduct -- is a crime, is a legal question, not a matter of emotion or non-legal opinion.
semantics boys. what is a crime? that which is legislated as such to be part of the penal code. I just found out that an apartment owner in PA can evict a person who is homosexual. it isn't done. but it is an archaic code that has lived in the bowels of legislation for a long time. and of course now the aclu and the 'others for others' groups are making a big deal out of it. if you research the absurdities of crimes throughout the country you will find bizarre laws on the books. so what is a crime? a crime by definition or a crime by the common sense approach to "getting around the law"? whether or not it is some penal code to be in this country by an other than ethical means is a crime I don't know. what I do know is that I went through a lot of paperwork and government scrutiny for my wife to get a 'green card'. All the while those from south of the border sneak across and are given free medical, welfare and other tax supported social benefits while I had to sign my life away to ensure my wife would never become the benefactor of such programs. BULLSHIT!
a big hooray for TEXAS! how about them impounding cars for people pulled over who cannot give proof of insurance? AMEN to that. I t seems since they instituted this program (law) that over 90% of the impounded vehicles are those driven by ILLEGAL ALIENS! It is sad that states and municipalities must enact new laws very carefully worded to be able to fight the influx of illegals into their territory. And because the laws are nothing more than black and white, they cannot be deemed exclusionary or targeted to any particular group.
to Rb - you have got to be kidding me. unfortunately where I live it is the ILLEGAL ALIENS who perpetrate over 90% of the crimes on the streets. LOCK YOU DOORS AND ROLL UP YOU WINDOWS! IT IS A FACT!!!!!!! I won't even get into the New York/PA drug trafficking that goes on and the many murders associated with it. Just because you think the way you do - not knowing the facts - is no reason for you to come down on me. I am light years ahead of you. Give it a rest. Consider the FACTS!!! And don't bother to retort.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'
Anyone who wishes to pattern his life after Humpty, can call someone "criminal" without regard to the facts of law. Otherwise, as Ralph said, "what is a crime? that which is legislated as such to be part of the penal code."
@Ralph: "where I live it is the ILLEGAL ALIENS who perpetrate over 90% of the crimes on the streets" -- I would be very interested to see a source on that.
You mentioned Southern California, not where you live. Why do you call them illegal aliens? Because they are Latinos? Did it ever occur to you that many of them might be legal?
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
My point here is there are two different circumstances: them being illegal and them being criminals. Yes, my state (California) is going broke and mostly becaus of services to them. No, I don't like government services in Spanish. I support you in sending them home. I go against you when you link them to crimes because many of them are innocent.
Here are the numbers: The US population is roughly 307 million. Of these, 12 million are estimated to be illegal aliens, about 3% of the total population. Because of your light years ahead of my intelligence, you have determined that 3% of the population commits 90% of the crime.
statistics, statistics, statistics... a hypothetical scenario for you. let's say there are 10000 people in my town. by the stats only 300 would be illegal aliens. so let's say for argument sake there are 100 crimes (robberies, burglaries aggravated assaults, murders and the like)committed every year. The typical criminal commits several of these crimes each whether by sure aggravation, need or whatever. And also with the knowledge that some lawyer will get them off based on STATISTICAL PROOF that very few get jail time or whatever. They have no desire to become a contributing member of a society they already despise so a criminal record may be considered a badge of honor to them. Let's assume a chronic outlaw alien will commit 20 crimes a year. That would mean - STATISTICALLY - that only four of the 300 were outlaws. Just over 1 percent. The actual number/percentage is much less than 1% of illegal aliens who commit crimes. So put it into perspective... even though a few of them are actually committing crimes the statistical analysis of this hypothetical group still commits the most crimes.
Durak - don't try to get me to validate this. The powers that be cover up a whole lot more than can be imagined. Let me know if you trust our government. If you do, I know an 22 year old supermodel who wants to be your wife forever and ever.
RB - I do not recall ever talking about your gf. I only doubt that your "relationship" is as you state. Whoever she is (or isn't) I do not talk about her. I only tried to point out as have others that there are many doubts surrounding your situation. That's all. You can talk about my wife all you want if it makes you feel better. I'm just some fictional character who possibly has made everything up anyway. So it really shouldn't matter to you. It is your adolescent mindset that makes you want to beat me up during recess or after school. Grow up already.
Ah I get it. It is only in your neighborhood that has the 90% crime rate by the illegal alien population. Out of the 12 million illegal aliens, it is only 300 of them you are angry about, and they are only in your town.
Your memory is short. You talked about her many times. I will point out recent times. Go back to the thread where I told you not to talk about her. There you talked about her and said that was humour. They were talking about dresses and you saw it fit to joke. You replied to my post trying to help someone become a vkontakte member with a post about my sending money to her. Why don't you address my advice without getting personal? I understand the doubts which is why I said I will keep her discussion to a minimum. Doubts about her has been discussed ad nauseum.
There were other times. If you want, I will point them out to you. This is typical of what your and my bickering about. You state my advice is bad based on that and other things other than the advice. Then, you state in another thread that my advice is bad, and I won't know what you are talking about.
Actually RB, that last statistic may not be far from the truth. I can't speak for the US, but here in the UK I work with the police a lot on youth crime. Their classifications are that 90% are 'mainstream' ('normal', low to no crime), 9% are 'at risk' (potential to commit crime if influenced), and 1% are called either 'hard to help' or 'persistent offenders' (depending how PC you want to be) who commit the overwhelming majority of crime. Just 1%!!!
No idea how that relates to immigration, but there it is.
Btw, marijuana was recently de-criminalised in the UK. Those who can't get their heads around the difference think that means it's been legalised. It hasn't, and s is still landing people in court.
The war continues, so no celebrating with me, Ivor.
I'm just concerned that a certain group of people are blamed for something they didn't do, Muzzy. Ralph himself said data on this matter is covered up, so I don't know where he got his data. My personal observation is it simply is not true.
Durak: I am not wrong. If you conspire with your confederates to drive the wrong way on the road it is a felony. If someone is killed, it is a felony murder. If you get drunk and drive and injure someone, it is also a crime. As I stated if someone enters the country illegally, it may or not be a felony. If someone enters and then gets assistance by lying on an application, it is fraud, another felony. It is also malfeasance for a public employee to not follow the law on the same issue. Are you beginning to understand what the problem is? It is right in front of you. However you have your own agenda. Your search in Eastern Europe is inconsistent as to the path needed to bring a wife to America. Maybe you should just look south or in any city. The government is the same. It keeps people out the first few feet and then another arm of the system give assistance in remaining here. Just like watching television, the way to live and believe only lasts until the next situation comedy or you change the channel.
I had not seen an illegal immigrant crime on the TV news lately from California. Perhaps, it's because of what they call special order 40. The police is not allowed to ask anyone arrested if they are illegal. Still criminals on the news have a fair share of whites, blacks, hispanics and asians. Assuming the hispanic ones are illegal, they are still a minority, nowhere near 90%. I was being generous earlier when I said 25%.
Stereotype of illegal aliens are the drug dealers, muggers and robbers as Ralph describes. I don't know about those, but I go to Home Depot once in a while to get day laborers if I need some heavy work for a day or so. You would think they were 90-100% illegal. Actually about half of them are legal.
About a year ago, I thought the hispanics were numerous and loud. That's when they were pushing for "immigration reform" or legalization. When you oppose them in their views, they call you racist. My mother, 80 years old once pulled in to a Mexican grocery store to buy vegetables. A lady backed into her. The lady soon gave her a hard time and three or four hispanic ladies came out of the store to back her up. "Didn't you see me?" "Do you need an interpreter?" They meant an interpreter for her rather than the driver who did not speak English. It turns out the lady did not have insurance. She got insurance that day and tried to claim it a couple of days later. I have no idea if she was illegal, but she got what she deserved.
Funny thing, Mayor Villagrosa of Los Angeles was a speaker in one of their rallies. He said, "We clean your toilets !!!" A local radio station got wind of it and told their listeners to send him toilet bowl brushes. They did, by the thousands.
They are quieter and less numerous now. I think many of them went home because jobs are not easy to find here. Is being an illegal alien a crime? I don't know. I googled it and some said yes, some said no. The yes had a statute number on it and the no was an appelate judge. I think it's a no, as they don't want to add a crime to a crime if an illegal gets caught, thus increasing his sentence.
When I said a guy they could depend on, I meant, someone who will BE THERE FOR THEM!! For some reason any girl reading this thinks we're looking for that perfect russian bride. That isn't so.
The girls I've spoken to, and webcam are different. I'm sorry Iryna, sounds like your jealous of something. Girls in America/Canada are different than in Ukraine. BIG TIME! I just get that vibe. Heck, even girls who came from Ukraine to Canada I met are different. There not as materialistic and stuckup.
I'm just looking for that nice girl still. Have a problem with it? Well then that's just how the cookie crumbles.
sorry zarkey -- there seems to be an issue with another topic woven in here. I am not going to say he is an idiot. You can all figure it out for yourselves. But I know I never talked about the idiot's girlfriend. WHY MUST YOU BE SO INSISTENT ABOUT IT? Jesus H Christ.
He never fails. Just when I think it's over he starts it up again. He goes in another thread so noone else knows what he is talking about. Here he begins name calling again. Why do people name call and post in another thread anyway? The topic is too much for them. They cannot do it by reason.